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AC DT (in a bugless world).  Havent tried AOC yet sounds like its twitchier than mmo out so I'd have to try sometime.  Planetside is easily #2

Originally posted by Alcuin

 

Originally posted by gath

 

 

Besides the story/reasons behind it, what is that diferent from "go kill 10 orcs" quests...?

 

You actions have meaning.  If enough orcs aren't killed something bad will happen (The city will be overrun).  If enough players kill 10 orcs then some thing good will happen (the city will grow and merchants will spawn and you won't have to run all the way back to that last town to  "sell your stuff" or train or whatever). 

The bounty on 10 orc scalps is offered as incentive only.  The orcs could also be slain without completeing the bounty- but why not keep it?  If I wanted to protect my city form orcs, I would pay you 10 silver to slay 10 orcs...  it makes sense

 

As it stands now, in most games at least, you get a quest to slay 10 orcs and you go to the same spawn sites (or chose from a few) and slay 10 orcs and go back and getsome  XP and a reward.  The orcs respawn and the cycle repeats until the end of time or the server shuts down, whichever comes first.

 

 

 

 

Something like this here.  

But I would think there should be a good story line, yes even in a pvp game.  And that in that segment the end could have a story arc that would have a big ending with a quest.  In that quest the PLAYERS get to choose what happens.  

This actually occured in Asheron's call, back in the days when teh dev's would hold big battles with the heroes and villains of the story.  And in one of the events the players took control and helped asheron defeat one of the villains, which the dev's didnt expect.  But from there they actaully created additional parts to the story, including some of the names that did the most damage or even the allegiance names.  

They tried it again later in the story with a battle between asheron and Bealzharon.  Where you had to fight one or the other.  The Non-pks chose asheron while the pk's chose bealz.  In the end Asheron was able to injure bealzharon enough that his last ditch effort was to kill himself and mortaly wound asheron, which lead into an additional story arc of Asheron missing hte world going into chaos. 

Long story that shouldve been shortened long ago.  I think it should be up to the players as to what happens next, this is coming from a fan of player "owned" worlds.

Lol i think its pretty damn funny about how unfinished the game was.

But it keeps my respect from that video you can find at youtube of the guy kicking people off the sides of roads and stuff with his horse

Only things darkfall and SWG (Pre-cu) have in common, is player driven economies.  And the monsters will fight each other (sorry but one of myk favorite things in swg when i was getting bored with fighting. Used to watch to take a break.).


The combat, the skill system (since pre-cu had barely any real choice on all the things you could be.  Compared to the IDEA of DF).  and of course mounts will be completely different.

I was actually losing hope for DF, but since they plan to release it this year, im getting my hopes up again.  But I would have to laugh if on their "release date" they pull a, GOTCHA!

Originally posted by hurkle

Well, I'm just happy you psychotics, sociopaths, and other sufferers of abnormal psychologies will have someplace to go to display your penis length and beat on each other. All six of you.

 

Rofl and who says mature people dont "Trash talk"  Looks like its not only the 15 year olds playing WoW PvP whom are l33t might I add (Hint: theres sarcasm somewhere in here!).   No its not only a game that would allow you to show whose really better than each other by being able to fight in competitions, tournaments, or over something fullfiling such as land.  Oh and that whole thing where owning a dungeon, area or even a town would actually mean something.  "WOOT WE OWN THIS AREA CAUSE WE DID A 3 HOUR QUEST!  OH N0EZ THERES SOMEONE ELSE DOING THE QUEST WE BETTER GET READY TO DO IT AGAIN!!"  

Please man if you want to talk smack might as well do it for something alittle more than over a video game preferance.

And btw my p33n is big4r so dont try!

Originally posted by Reborn17

Having played on pvp servers with coin looting and so forth it usually degenerates into gankers, griefers and twinks, all bragging how their cowardly a$$e$ "pwn u". Curs. As a well written blog a few months ago appropriately stated, a lotta "honorless dogs" out there. I know the majority of opponents I've faced in various games were twinked out using their higher level char for equipment and weapons or hacks using attacks and skills they shouldn't be able to use or just plain attacked as I was recovering from a PvE encounter. In the 7 years I've pvpd I can count on 1 hand how many times I've been taken on 1 on 1,face to face with full hp in a reasonably even match in a D&D type mmo. I personally get no pleasure preying on the weak, I prefer to prey on the predator, my favorite was tormenting the ganking, griefer bastards and corpse camping their a$$ as retribution.

Been workin on a game for some time and have a similar criminal designation as Earthrise for these guys eventually resulting in the possibility of perma-death. Now that's entertainment. Would be interesting to see how hardcore these guys are if they knew one of these days they may lose that twink of theirs forever and his land auctioned off to the highest bidder, all proceeds going to all offended parties whose death registered a minus to faction.

Old school AC DT ftw.  Same creators as DnD and if it was just bugless it would be still surpassing LOTRO and DnD to this day.  But sadly AC is turbines bastard child.  

In any case in the old days of AC DT before the major bugs found the way up to the actaul gameplay, you could easily take 2 people on at once as long as you knew how to use your character.  It didnt matter so much what level you were but just about how you used your character which I cant seem to find in a game to this day =(.  I hope some day they bring out a ****** server that we can play on for **** with old school "Hardcore" rules.

Mack:  SOME PEOPLE also love to eat rotten meat, SOME people believe in buddah SOME people believe in the profit mohammad.  The fact that you say SOME PEOPLE, being a very small amount in your definition, would enjoy this game.  Which is false, please stop trying to say THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY IS CAREBEAR and try to make an approach that is all i ever hear from carebears and acta  bit more "Mature" and say SUPER have fun with it but im not gonna put my money into something that has a competative edge.

To all who believe tha tits a waste of money just because you lose items, theres many things you can do in order to avoid it being so harsh on you rlives.   

1) stock up on armor

2) realize these games are balanced around full loot thus weapons/armor/jewlery are normaly cheap and easy to come by

3) realize that there are some peole to like everything, full loot pvp being one of them, get over yourself and stop trying to flood these threads with "This game will fail because i say so"    Case in point, ultima Online is alive to this day, and it started out full loot pvp.

4)  I r pwn j00 n00bz

Originally posted by Katashi-kun

So I was out running around the other day and remembered I had a $20 credit since X-Mas when I passed by GameStop.  I have been playing LOTRO on/off since launch and well nothing else is coming out for awhile to spend money on so why not, lets go get a 2-month gamecard!

There are 4 employees there atm including the store manager, walked to the desk and asked if they had any LOTRO gamecards.  The employee/manager or whatever gave me this cross-eyed look and said whats LOTRO?  {thinking to myself OMFG!}  So you seriously have no idea what LOTRO is I replied!

He then turned to the other employees and asked what LOTRO was....the other 3 also had no clue! {I'm just astonished at this point!} 

So like I told them you know Lord of the Rings Online, only the most famous fantasy story out there turned into an MMO! 

Finally I got a response, "Oh that game, hasn't that game been shut down, we havn't had stock of that game or gamecards since a month after launch!  All I've heard was that it sucks, nobody plays it and it was shut down like 6 months ago!" 

{I'm thinking; well regardless of how a game might have turned out, or not!  Not knowing about the current popular games and passing along horrible intel to other customers and ur an employee of a game store, that pretty pathetic, these ppl should be fired!}

Anyway I went into a bit more that the game was live and doing exceptionally well, and that I want this dumb-ass $20 credit turned into cash and that I would never shop at any of your stores again!  With quite a bit of resistance and little more heated complaining on my part the manager gave me the cash and I left!

with all due respect i'd rather them be talking liek this than sell a game that was already shut down.  OH WAIT *dOH*.  

I just remembered the last time I went to gamestop they were selling RFonline for 30 dollars (Game was made Free to play months before then).

Ok your first post was a waste of time, if you want to get philosophical lets just say that we are all in a vat just as our brains and everything we percieve is exactly the same because it is us. 

Now that you realize theres no real use in saying that one car is the same as anothe rcause they drive, realize they're not.  Different fuel consumptions, suspension, valves cylinders etc etc

just like games.  All games are different, they are not all the same coding alot of them play exactly the same (daoc and the rip offs *cough* wow*cough*) but still their not exactly the same.  But what erks me is when someone plays DAOC and says omg this is nothing like WoW their so different.  I've played them both and their no different.

Its when you have turn based to twitch combat.  thats where the real differences start.

I will admit the first time i was posting most of it kinda eerked me but then i went back and re-read.  And although you are fairly right, that rpgs usually try to keep it fairly realistic with the whole military action, but  the majority of games are fantasy (Duh lawl) but mainly a sense of becoming your own hero, so why i would want a hero that even though hasnt made a name fo rhimself still can only use 1 type of weapon/buffing system?   Thats why i find skill based games so much better, where you can level up multiple weapons but you have to actually use them to level them up. 

And even though even the marines have their weapon "professions" if a fallen comrade drop sa saw, im sure one of the m16a4 users would glady pick it up (and i've heard this from multiple soldiers).  Why wouldnt a healer be able to use a  dagger?  By all means some requirements should have to be met but im sure you understand what im getting at.

Other than eve theres a few games out there, diamonds in the rough. 

Originally posted by Zyllos

I have no idea if this was said or not, really dont want to read the wall of text about the same thing over and over but I believe the reason is why there is a gender gap is because females have a larger pressure early in life to not play games than males do. You might look at www.nickyee.com on some of the data that has been gathered about this sort of thing.

You just kinda sparked a memory for me from when i was in the 3rd grade, our teacher read us a book about this family about dad having a job mom working hte kitchen and bedroom (added bedroom from an earlier comment wasnt really in the book) and the kids doin homework and kids things.  Then it ended up the dad doing the cleaning/cooking and work and the mom working on the car or some shit.  I think it was supposed to mean women can do whatever men could.  Im not even sure wtf this is being posted for but thought I'd share.

Originally posted by neonaka

I really do not understand this post from what I have read. I really do not believe anyone really cares how many girls game. If they game cool, if not whatever. So the OP suggestion of games or MMO's being a "dude" thing is irrelevant.

What do you mean no one cares?  how else am i gonna get webcamz, cyb0rz and naked photos of real girlz?!

All jokes aside I agree, i think its funny when im playing any game (especially CS) and a girl talks then its like OMGWTFBBQ MARRY ME

Originally posted by Ponico

I usually agree with you on about everything you post mate but this time... hehe.. you are so wrong.

 

I work in the gaming industry and i've been around quite alot... THere's a HUGE load of girls making games, playing games and designing games. Don't get me wrong, it's not 50/50 but it's not 2 %or 3% ... to top it off, most of them I've met were pretty good looking and all. I usually do not meet the big fat nerd (girl or guy) in the dev stage of a game. I myself look decent

 

Now here's the thing... Even games like Quake 3, RTCW and other less teen oriented shooter like CS have some of nicest/hotest/skilled girl gamers. Just join the community and see what lies behind...

 

Half my wow guild was composed of girls.... (yeah... the chat was omg... .. FAST.. Guys were on ventrilo and the girls on the chat lol)

 

Although I dont like WoW for any of its concepts other than being able to bring mmo's to the mainstream.  I would not hesitate to reactivate my subscription that has been dead since 1 month after launch if i were to meet a hot chick that plays.

I've met a few girls that play but having a shitload of chipped teeth or a head thats alot bigger than your body are kinda turn off's lawl

Sucks living int he tri valley >=(

Originally posted by Ponico

 

Originally posted by admriker4

FPS has a place in video game world, but it isnt in MMO's.

MMO's are about investing time into an avatar to get better gear, higher level or skills, etc. This time + gear = more power. Its a basic component of MMO's.

FPS genre negates the whole point of investing time. Sure gear will still help somewhat as will your level. But ultimately any quasi-fps MMO still comes down to your basic ability to aim and click better than the other guy. Why invest time into reaching level 80, getting a better weapon, etc if some kid and his lvl 50 toon with hormones ablazing under a Mountain Dew high will kick your tail ?

If I want a quick thrill with no grind I play Halo with my son on occasion. But if I want an experience where my patience, time, and my intellect are rewarded I seek out MMO's. And I think the majority clearly feel the same. Otherwise these quasi-fps MMO attempts wouldnt keep failing.

Even the legendary Garriot couldnt make one work and those guys spent like 6 years on Tabula Rasa. Enough already guys. If Star Wars Galaxies, Planetside, Tabula Rasa, Face of Mankind and the many smaller MMO's couldnt make a hit perhaps you should listen.

And for some reason after all the failures the guys making AoC think its a good idea to attempt another quasi-fps game ?  This makes no sense.

 

 

THat's right, you don't want an FPSMMO because players like me will dominate you even when we're 30 levels below you. Who are you to decide that FPSmmo are no good?

I loved Planetside, Neocron and other FPSmmo and I don't think it's a bad idea. Of course, the best games are on a private server with league players that are better or as good as you. If you played Neocron, you would soon discover that it wasn't a quick thrill, it was hard and if not more advance then your cookie cutter mmo.

Tabula Rasa is not an FPS, SWG is not an FPS, Face of Mankind is an FPS but it suffered bad publicity and design.

 

Garbage in, garbage out.

Amen.  I think its kinda funny that he brings up AoC its not even Quasi,

You know im not sure if anyones actually thought about it yet, but are we looking for a FPS game, or a twitch game?   

Twitch combat is what you'll see in most FPS but i dont think the other players understand the whole concept of twitch combat actaully being like you are the avatar instead of just clicking around to target people then just using skills, instead having to judge distance knowing what type of skill to use etc etc etc.

Imma laugh if theres even 1 person thinkin "How the hell are you supposed to click to your destination if your in First Person??!?"

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by vader999
FPS works, see Hellgate. Its the only reason many people stuck/stick it out, its just that only every other element of the game is a disaster.

Hellgate is the last game you ever want to use as a benchmark for mmos ( since it's not one), much less for FPSmmos. Unless you're trying to show they fail.

I'll admit at first i said, 100% correct.  But in thinking about it, is it really so far off?  Is the linear gameplay of go to point a b and c and you can go to Land B.   If you complete quest d e and f you can go to Land C.  All the while it being an environment where you can only see party members while completing a quest.  

Instancing and Linear gameplay are a must in the major mmo's today.  Sure WoW has the open areas that you can see other players in, but thats a MUST p2p, at least hellgate has the F2p option.  Really i dont think its any different than most mmo's other than the gameplay.  The gameplay really caught my attention in alpha reminded me of the good ol days of diablo except ws better cause of the whole first person thing, but its still lacking something to really keep me in. 

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by KOrnfan4evr

ROFL how often do i have to read about people not wanting to play twitch based games because they dont want to be around "12 yr old sugar junkies."    

Always the whole arguement of not playing with a bunch of kids.  Great so go play WoW, oh wait that has alot of kids.  Ok eq II.  Ooops failed again.  Lets try asheron's call.  OH HOLD ON you got the old farts that talk nothing but crap claiming everyone else are kids.  OK lets go and try EQ I.  oh wait a second not much of a differnce.  Ok daoc.  Oh wait that has pvp it must be full of kids....hmm....well then swg.  Oh yes swg the one that has barely any....oh wait theres someone on a speeder.....and their an opposing faction DAMNED YOU MISERABLE KIDS.

Enough of this "only youngins play mmo's"  it doesnt matter if its twitch or lack-of control its still a game that someone of all ages will play, so get over your age and get into what makes you happy.   

I for one will always choose player skill > character skill

I was the one who made the "12 yr old sugar junkies" comment, and it was in reference to younger players with faster reflexes. It was not a bash on kids playing in general. Maybe look at the context of the conversation.

Theres plenty of 30-50 yr olds playing asheorn's call even on hte PVP server and so far next to planetside thats the most player skill based (based on reaction times and THINKING QUICK) that you can get, do some word searches, sudokus and get those synapses firing again. 

PS:  Majority of "Children playing" are actaully stoners so their reflexes arent as great as you think.  There was once a time when gaming is achilds thing, now its an elderly thing to do whilst bitching about the kids that still play

ROFL how often do i have to read about people not wanting to play twitch based games because they dont want to be around "12 yr old sugar junkies."    

Always the whole arguement of not playing with a bunch of kids.  Great so go play WoW, oh wait that has alot of kids.  Ok eq II.  Ooops failed again.  Lets try asheron's call.  OH HOLD ON you got the old farts that talk nothing but crap claiming everyone else are kids.  OK lets go and try EQ I.  oh wait a second not much of a differnce.  Ok daoc.  Oh wait that has pvp it must be full of kids....hmm....well then swg.  Oh yes swg the one that has barely any....oh wait theres someone on a speeder.....and their an opposing faction DAMNED YOU MISERABLE KIDS.

Enough of this "only youngins play mmo's"  it doesnt matter if its twitch or lack-of control its still a game that someone of all ages will play, so get over your age and get into what makes you happy.   

I for one will always choose player skill > character skill

All ican say is i cant wait to play Of Might and Magic:  Dark messiah the MMO (Balanced version of course).

Originally posted by admriker4

FPS has a place in video game world, but it isnt in MMO's.

MMO's are about investing time into an avatar to get better gear, higher level or skills, etc. This time + gear = more power. Its a basic component of MMO's.

FPS genre negates the whole point of investing time. Sure gear will still help somewhat as will your level. But ultimately any quasi-fps MMO still comes down to your basic ability to aim and click better than the other guy. Why invest time into reaching level 80, getting a better weapon, etc if some kid and his lvl 50 toon with hormones ablazing under a Mountain Dew high will kick your tail ?

If I want a quick thrill with no grind I play Halo with my son on occasion. But if I want an experience where my patience, time, and my intellect are rewarded I seek out MMO's. And I think the majority clearly feel the same. Otherwise these quasi-fps MMO attempts wouldnt keep failing.

Even the legendary Garriot couldnt make one work and those guys spent like 6 years on Tabula Rasa. Enough already guys. If Star Wars Galaxies, Planetside, Tabula Rasa, Face of Mankind and the many smaller MMO's couldnt make a hit perhaps you should listen.

And for some reason after all the failures the guys making AoC think its a good idea to attempt another quasi-fps game ?  This makes no sense.

I find this utterly laughable.  Most of the time I read into an mmo that either requires you to actually move instead of using "Intellect" its about how kids play those games all day.  I find it actually insulting how someone could take so much time into writing something w/little grammer errors and spelling and saying how a dev shouldnt take the time and effort in order to break the mold of how every mmo is the same these days and create something new.  

You sir should learn the difference between a game where you win by having the best gear, instead of having to use intellect.  Cause just having the right gear and having to face the same kind of character over and over is about as smart as a child HAVING to fit the square in the square hole.  So if clicking is so dificult to do for you then maybe mmo's arent for you.   

Witha n mmo customers pay their $$$ to play the game they want or is the closest to what they percieve to be a good game, and although i have stated how i do and dont like games, i've also stated how i appreciate other peoples opinions but dont percieve them as my own (of course in gamers lingo ;P)  But simply telling dev's not to make games cause i always get owned in them by other players, is pretty rediculous.  I really hope someday you can find the beauty in an fpsmmo seeing how most of htem are actually what mmo's are all about instead of (Kill x amount of monsters get items a-f and then hit 1 2 3 4 after clicking on this person) seeing how games should be more about player skill more than character level IMO.