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Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by Demogorgon

Waking you up to the FACT that f2p game are a scam maybe? If you can't figure that one out on your own, why would I have any kind of respect for your suppsosed intellect?

They are pretty much all online casinos with flashing lights where kids can spend their parents money... often behind their back even.

I'm sorry but if your intellect thinks that is healthy gaming and that it should continue to exist in its current form, I have no respect what so ever toward you or any one who thinks that is ok.

Its an industry of mind tricks to fool the Young and foolish ( or the stupid ) into parting with their money, giving very little in return.

Its cheap game 1, followed by cheap game 2 and 3 and ad infinitum. There's no quality in them!

If your time isn't something you value, if being taken for a fool doesn't bother you, then have fun with your degenarate gaming... I'll pass.

There's nothing personnal here, I'm a misantrope. I just have the ability to spot non sense and crap. The f2p industy and its supporter are full of it. Just pointing that out cuz I'm personnally sick of it.

F2P can have its place I guess, with simple no brainer games on your smart phone to waste 5 min here and there, like candy crush & other like it. They are free cuz they cost almost nothing to make and can get back their investment simply by tagging adds with it.

I don't even know why I'm typing all this anyways... I'm sure its a waste of my time and why I usually keep it short on these boards.

/sigh

More veiled insults and still not a single point addressed.  Just more emotion-charged outrage which ignores the fact that F2P giants like TF2, LoL, and World of Tanks/Warships are extremely high-quality games focused on fun, and their success is built upon that quality.

It's very strange to hear your outrage of F2P and then to hear you say "its place" is games like Candy Crush, rather than the higher-quality games that exist.  Do you only want cheap Candy Crush F2P games because it makes it easier to be outraged at the business model?  Are TF2, LoL, and WoT/W inconvenient truths to you?

All garbage games with little sustenance. They are fun for what a week? Than you realize how shallow they are and how toxic the community around those game is and you move on and never look back.

Lets me guess you wont agree to that and you'll say they are Financial succes so they must ne good games... Heard it all before. ty

Moving on. No point in replying to this anymore...

Originally posted by MrSnuffles
Originally posted by Demogorgon

Bad info is bad

It'll take you probably more than a month and the tokens are Soldiery capped at 2000 and the top one is poetic capped at 900.

There's no grind... the grind is in the way you play. If you choose to grind than have at it, but the games offer many avenue of xp gain.

Diversifie ftw!  :D

Yupp, no grind, you just be doing the same dungeons over and over again for tokens for a couple of months. Diversifying is not really possible because there are only a few Duty Finder Roulette tasks that give you the tokens and only once a day. So get ready for a new job: Do the same dungeons every day, religiously until you cap for the week.

You choose to play that way cuz you are obsessed with gear that aren't necessary to do any of the content. Have at it... but don't tell me you HAVE to do this.

Crafted gear is just as good btw. Diversifie! But I'm sure sure it'll be lost on you. Go figure. meh

Originally posted by cheyane
What do you exactly hope to achieve when you obviously have so little regard for our intellect.

Waking you up to the FACT that f2p game are a scam maybe? If you can't figure that one out on your own, why would I have any kind of respect for your suppsosed intellect?

They are pretty much all online casinos with flashing lights where kids can spend their parents money... often behind their back even.

I'm sorry but if your intellect thinks that is healthy gaming and that it should continue to exist in its current form, I have no respect what so ever toward you or any one who thinks that is ok.

Its an industry of mind tricks to fool the Young and foolish ( or the stupid ) into parting with their money, giving very little in return.

Its cheap game 1, followed by cheap game 2 and 3 and ad infinitum. There's no quality in them!

If your time isn't something you value, if being taken for a fool doesn't bother you, then have fun with your degenarate gaming... I'll pass.

There's nothing personnal here, I'm a misantrope. I just have the ability to spot non sense and crap. The f2p industy and its supporter are full of it. Just pointing that out cuz I'm personnally sick of it.

F2P can have its place I guess, with simple no brainer games on your smart phone to waste 5 min here and there, like candy crush & other like it. They are free cuz they cost almost nothing to make and can get back their investment simply by tagging adds with it.

I don't even know why I'm typing all this anyways... I'm sure its a waste of my time and why I usually keep it short on these boards.

/sigh

Originally posted by Iselin

Axe is right. Most people can't be bothered with even the tiny bit of introspection required to recognize the misanthropic dribble that these threads are before they post them...

 

TLDR for all of these threads: "You are all idiotic sheep but I am not."

If the hat fits, wear it.

edit: I'm  a misanthrope... I'll give you that. Your point is? None what so ever... Like I said, if the hat fits.

Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by Demogorgon

You're full of it... sigh

No its more like one is letting you test dirve a car that only has 3 wheels, a chasis, a strearing Wheel & a shity motor. Then they tell you that it would be more enjoyable if you did like that guys over there who bought a 4th Wheel & a nice red body. The car is free so why not invest a little eh?

On the other side you have that boxed car, which is nice and feature complete. You know that the car Inside IS feature complete as there are laws that make sure it is at the very least close to what is advertized on the box. This car has a fix reasonnable price.

So bottom line, you either drive a 3 Wheeler crap car, or you upgrade it to the lvl of the boxed car for twice the price or more. Thats what is and nothing else.

edit: So you can get from point A to point B for free, but you better hope there's no steep slop or rainning, cuz then... yeah you get the picture.

Calm down and think rationally.

Bad car dealerships exist, even with the try-before-buy model. You're not completely protected, but you have way more information about the product before money changes hands (you've actually played it!) compared with the marketing-driven buy-before-try model.

When a game feels like a 3-wheel car, players leave.  They don't spend.

If the game feels like a nice (and 4-wheeled) car that the player could see themselves spending a lot of time with, that's when they're more likely to pay.

The "laws" part of your post makes me wonder if you've ever purchased a non-F2P game.  Anyone who's bought 10+ B2P games knows that many (most?) of those games aren't matching up to the marketing ideals that you're being sold. Quality is the main point -- you can try the game in F2P and experience the quality, but you can't in a B2P game.  Missing features are only a side point, and still favor the F2P model because if that car has 3 wheels you're going to drive it and notice.  Whereas if you're buying something hidden inside the marketing box, then afterwards you're going to listen angrily as the dealer explains to you, "If you look closely you can see that in the box image we don't actually show you all 4 wheels, so technically we sold you exactly what this awesome car image shows you."

Again, it all stems from these simple, logical truths:

  • You experience the game before money trades hands in F2P.  If you don't like it, you won't pay.
  • You don't get that with B2P.
  • ...so you have less information.
  • ...and the purchase is riskier.
  • ...in large part because the purchase is driven by marketing and hype, instead of whether you're actually having fun.

Spin all you want m8, I've made my point clear enough.

Bad info is bad

It'll take you probably more than a month and the tokens are Soldiery capped at 2000 and the top one is poetic capped at 900.

There's no grind... the grind is in the way you play. If you choose to grind than have at it, but the games offer many avenue of xp gain.

Diversifie ftw!  :D

Originally posted by NightHaveN
Originally posted by StoneRoses
Originally posted by reeereee
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by reeereee

Simple answer OP.  Linear quest grind.

 

I remember logging into closed beta and the first thing I saw was a hovering gold exclamation mark and my hype for the game crashed harder than than the rocket that was in ruins around my character.

 

in 2014, and 2015, for that matter.  If you have traditional WoW style quest based leveling you're doing it wrong.  The vast majority of MMO players have done that to death and are ready for something new.

 

Also, the dissonance of having a graphic style that caters to 10 year-olds with endgame PvE built around hardcore raiding meant to appeal to people in their 30s and 40s didn't help at all.

You mean like this? It seems to have worked for millions. (I'm having fun with images today.)

Wildstar is not simply one of many cartoony MMOs that has somehow unjustly been singled out criticism, it is by far the most cartoony MMO that was not a niche game aimed at children or anime fans.  They outcartooned WoW by a lot, if Wildstar had simply drawn the line at a WoW level of cartoonishness I think it would have been far more successful. 

 

Look at the 2004 and 2014 WoW human faces as compared to the Wildstar human faces, both are cartoonish but the WoW faces at least kind-of look like a human.

You made such a valid point there!

 

 

If I want to look bad ass in a game, I don't roll human.

Yup, you're such a badass cuz you look like that in a game. Really?

Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by greenreen

...snip...

... But whales aren't born out of nothing, and a player needs to have fun in a game to have the potential to become a whale.  Whales aren't paying for games they dislike. 

Thats BS... Whales play these games cuz their fun IS to be whales. To be gods among the plebe. Periode! Not because the game have any real redeeming quality of its own.

...  The hatred is based far more on the bandwagon effect than on logic.

Again BS... Its based on knowing whats good for us & not some corporation profit margin.

For example, your use of the word "scam".  Let's say you go to two care dealerships:

  • At the first one, you're able to drive each car around as much as you want.
  • At the second, large car-sized boxes are sold.  They're painted magnificently with the cars the dealership claims are inside.
...which one sounds more prone to scams?  The one where you can try before paying, or the one where you can't see the actual product until after you pay?
 
In the case of games there are almost no scams whatsoever across either type of game, but certainly, logically there's more accountability with a game players can try before paying than the other way around.

You're full of it... sigh

No its more like one is letting you test dirve a car that only has 3 wheels, a chasis, a strearing Wheel & a shity motor. Then they tell you that it would be more enjoyable if you did like that guys over there who bought a 4th Wheel & a nice red body. The car is free so why not invest a little eh?

On the other side you have that boxed car, which is nice and feature complete. You know that the car Inside IS feature complete as there are laws that make sure it is at the very least close to what is advertized on the box. This car has a fix reasonnable price.

So bottom line, you either drive a 3 Wheeler crap car, or you upgrade it to the lvl of the boxed car for twice the price or more. Thats what is and nothing else.

edit: So you can get from point A to point B for free, but you better hope there's no steep slop or rainning, cuz then... yeah you get the picture.

Not an MMORPG

I would go the other way around & remove it. lol

These economies are a joke. They are just a tool for the RMT market. Get rid of it I say.

It would need a good system to replace it, one that would need tweaking for sure, but I can't stand the  insane prices, that forces you to buy gold or go without, that I always see on the AH of all the MMO's I've played.

Its a tool for scamer & asshat to grief the whole server.

I think Black Desert has the gist of it. I heard that they didn't have player to player economy or some such... might be wrong. Anyways! The idea is good, but the exucution & policing of it is pretty much an impossible task right now.

edit: Go play an economy simulator if that is what you want... But I guess there's noone to rip off there, less fun isn't it?.

Wannane buisness moogle wanting to be a 1%'er in a game is the main motivation behind asking for this stuff imo.

Originally posted by Muke
Originally posted by Azaron_Nightblade
Originally posted by Muke
Originally posted by Azaron_Nightblade
 

Oh, I never even touched it. So I can only go on what I've heard from those who do.

So you base your opinion on.....absolutely nothing?

 

If you're fellow EVE players count as nothing, then yes, by all means. 

"WoW is a bad game, I have never touched it, but I know some who do....so it is bad, they say it, so it must be bad, never seen or played the game though, but they say it, so it must be true."

 

Ok, I get it, you are easily influenced by others.

Myyyy preciiiiiious. Golum's voice of course. lol

Originally posted by LacedOpium
Originally posted by Muke
Originally posted by 5ubzer0
If you pvp at all, you should know that 95% of the playerbase will not play on a full loot server. People take their gear way too seriously these days.

EVE Online is full loot and thriving.

 

 

Oh, the great Eve Online.  It never fails to be brought up in any conversation involving PvP.   It's the PvP saviour with its 350-400k player base.  Eve Online is the PvP equivalent of WoW the "oft-hated and frowned upon" PvE monster.  The only difference is that Eve Online has rarely, if ever, had a player base larger than 500k while WoW's player base has at times hovered over 12 million.

Correction... EVE never had more than 250-300k players. The rest are all the ATL accounts of vets.

Right now, its probably sits at around 175-200k players, NOT accounts, maximum. ( i'm being generous)

But thats another dead horse best left untouched. XD 

Well put. Concise, clear & to the point. kudos

Personnally, I'm just happy than more & more ppl are waking up to the fact that the industry ( the whole thing ) is in the gutter right now.

But as long as there's a constant arrival of fresh ingnorant ( in gaming terme ) mind to the scene, its buisness as usual. Sad really.

When you don't know better, you don't know better... How to educate/enlighten the new comers is the question.

Hard to do as the mass doesn't come on forum like we do.

It basicly plays on the "Keep up with the Joneses" phenomenon. Lots of vain empty soul out there. Thats why it work so well.

Let eveyone in & let the ego game begin $$$.

 

Wait for a sale... or maybe some here can direct you to where you can get it cheap. Don't pay 55 euros for that!

But you know, its your money.

Edit: Haven't played since launch so I can't tell you about optimization, but I here there's some problem there still.

Originally posted by Abhorer

 1. The Elder Scrolls Online is a western game with a western view of things about gaming. Only for the last reason is worth to try it and spend 50 bucks...

2. Just try it. If you don't like it you at least would have attemtep to get into a good quality game. ...

1. Really now? Worst reason to spend 50 bucks I ever saw. Its western so spend spend spend... What? wow

2. Opinion, everyone has one I guess.

Its an ok thempark that fall flat on its face at the end. Many thing are not well thought out at all & it shows throughout the whole thing.

I would wait for a sale. Its Worth about 20$ to me.

 

Misleading player number thread... More like lets insist AGAIN that FFXIV isn't doing that good cuz I say so thread.

aka Troll thread.

Move along, nothing to see here.

SE pissed in your cherios or what dude? Give it up. Or no wait! Wait a bit more & you'll see for yourself how good the game is doing comes the expansion. Thats a about month time... I'm sure you can refrain from posting your drivel until then. After that, we can have a talk if you still want to insist that its not doing good. Maybe your right maybe your wrong, we'll see then ok.

Good day sir.

 

Originally posted by Mavolence
Originally posted by Demogorgon
Originally posted by Holophonist
Originally posted by demadil

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Well this is just silly and ignorant. The vast majority of people who play full loot games do so because of the thrill. We like risk and reward. I want to ganked as much as I want to gank. After playing games with full loot and some form of ow pvp, I can't go back to games without these features because they're simply boring in comparison. It has nothing to do with any kind of psychological condition.

We'll agree to disagree.

Very few people in these kinda of games don't have underlaying issues that need resolving imo. Thats why I avoid that shit at all cost. These games are toxic...

Lets take the FPS crowd for exemple. Most people play these game in a way that they don't ear all the asshat & don't engage verbally. The ones that do, with all the "your mom" joke & all that trash talk are probably the same people who enjoy this kinda risk/reward crap. ( What risk lol, they always all end up in the same camp driving everyone else from the game. Good job! & on to the next game... Clowns.)

I'm telling you, maybe you don't have issues, but most have. 

 

Well, thats a disgusting generalization.  As an mmorpg player who enjoys full loot and open world pvp I always actually was pretty shocked at behavior in themepark games and found those players to be just as if not more toxic than players in the games i normally play also. The only difference is that in those themepark games i can't stop my own faction from harassing me like I can with open world pvp. I found that invisible safety net and anonymity makes the themepark players even more toxic. I remember one of my first experiences where I found this out was people following me purposefully kill stealing my kills so i couldn't complete quests on purpose. I ignored them so the verbal abuse stopped but i couldn't complete my quests at all. Was a real bummer. But of cousre im a psychopathic asshole with issues right?

My apologies. I know "most " very few" were too strong to express what I wanted to say. Again sorry.

But these people are there nonetheless & its a HUGE stain on the whole FFA PVP FULL LOOT genre.

Originally posted by Holophonist
Originally posted by demadil

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Well this is just silly and ignorant. The vast majority of people who play full loot games do so because of the thrill. We like risk and reward. I want to ganked as much as I want to gank. After playing games with full loot and some form of ow pvp, I can't go back to games without these features because they're simply boring in comparison. It has nothing to do with any kind of psychological condition.

We'll agree to disagree.

Very few people in these kinda of games don't have underlaying issues that need resolving imo. Thats why I avoid that shit at all cost. These games are toxic...

Lets take the FPS crowd for exemple. Most people play these game in a way that they don't ear all the asshat & don't engage verbally. The ones that do, with all the "your mom" joke & all that trash talk are probably the same people who enjoy this kinda risk/reward crap. ( What risk lol, they always all end up in the same camp driving everyone else from the game. Good job! & on to the next game... Clowns.)

I'm telling you, maybe you don't have issues, but most have. 

 

Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by Abuz0r
I wish they'd come out with a MMO worth $35/month.  I don't want a cheaper easier MMO, I want a bigger, better and more valuable MMO, and I'm willing to pay the price.

You're not alone. I can't tell you how many times I've read similar posts with varying monthly amounts. Sub prices never changed much over the years, even during the heyday before the "F2P" infestation.

The thing is, money doesn't have all that much to do with it.

Someone just has to make a game that doesn't cater to the dumbest of the dumb. Thats what is killing gaming imho.

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