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Soo is this the third or fourth website you have posted this crap on? Making the rounds are you? Every single site has resoundingly voted NO but I guess you will keep going till one goes your way. Then I guess you can send that in to Zenomax as proof your right?

 

 

Cant wait for this game. I would also like to hear about the controls. Did you use keyboard or controller etc.
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by Ruien

I installed the beta. Started playing and was about 2 hours in it. Didnt like it but just couldnt put my finger on why. My 10 year old son walked in and looked at the game. He turned to me and said, is that for me?

 

 

Uninstalled.

roflmao lol so funny XD XD XD 

The game is for kids because of its graphics, geddit guise?

Your comedy award is on its way, Ruien

Laugh all you want. Its a true story. /shrug

I installed the beta. Started playing and was about 2 hours in it. Didnt like it but just couldnt put my finger on why. My 10 year old son walked in and looked at the game. He turned to me and said, is that for me?

 

 

Uninstalled.

 

 

The minute there are no more sub MMO's being released, is the minute the genre loses me. Now Im not so self absorbed to think i would be missed because there will be 50 numbnuts to take my place. I just cant believe "gamers" have turned this genre into the Madden football franchise.

 

I have paid thousands of dollars into kickstarter now as a last ditch effort to show game developers and the wallets behind them, that the real gamers out there want something more substantial than the blow thru an MMO in 2 months and move on to the next game mentality. I don't need or want my hand held and I don't play games to distress or just for "fun". The MMO genre was a diamond of greatness in the EQ/daoc era.

Originally posted by ThumbtackJ
Originally posted by Ruien
Originally posted by ThumbtackJ

I hope it sells record breaking numbers. 

 

Then I hope more hyped up and long awaited MMO's come out and do the same. Maybe pre-order at Gamestop for one race, pre-order at Amazon for another. And if you want all the content, you have to buy the super mega special edition. 

 

That's what we need, man! Box price+Monthly Fee+Fee to Unlock Playable Races (and hopefully, eventually, whole areas and story arcs)+Fee for vanity items+Fee For Expansions.

 

That would be so rad, I'm tellin' ya! Who cares about them people living in poverty that can't afford to pay more for basic extra stuff. 

 

;D

Never understood this argument.  If the above argument is true then that person should not be playing a game. Most of their focus should be on bettering themselves in Rl and not some MMO.  You might say, well what about when I am not at work. If the above is true you should be eating,sleeping, working, learning to better yourself. Anything else is pure laziness.

I'm lost. 

My point exactly.

Originally posted by ThumbtackJ

I hope it sells record breaking numbers. 

 

Then I hope more hyped up and long awaited MMO's come out and do the same. Maybe pre-order at Gamestop for one race, pre-order at Amazon for another. And if you want all the content, you have to buy the super mega special edition. 

 

That's what we need, man! Box price+Monthly Fee+Fee to Unlock Playable Races (and hopefully, eventually, whole areas and story arcs)+Fee for vanity items+Fee For Expansions.

 

That would be so rad, I'm tellin' ya! Who cares about them people living in poverty that can't afford to pay more for basic extra stuff. 

 

;D

Never understood this argument.  If the above argument is true then that person should not be playing a game. Most of their focus should be on bettering themselves in Rl and not some MMO.  You might say, well what about when I am not at work. If the above is true you should be eating,sleeping, working, learning to better yourself. Anything else is pure laziness.

Originally posted by lafaiel
Originally posted by Ruien

@rodarin

 

Your argument and that of the vast majority of people complaining stems from the fact you either cant afford the game in some way, or your used to a F2P like setup. When something comes along that interests you but locks itself away financially you get all uppity.

 

Alot of the uproar here is due to this and no matter how well you try and disguise yourself behind manufactured indignation over some design decision, the true reason is that you are mad you have to pay for this game.

 

 

Or maybe, just maybe its not about the money but about not letting a company walk all over you there by setting a precedent for more of the same later on. Nice flame bait there though.  I'm already playing the I want to play so not interested in ESO but what do does affect me as it affects the whole industry.  I'm just lucky the game I play has no cash shop.

Which corresponds into the decision to buy or don't buy. You talk about the supposed hit to the industry or genre and you are correct. I don't like the current industry because of all the entitled  WoWers, and console kiddies have ruined a genre that I helped build. My railing at it at the top of my lungs didn't change anything tho.

If truth be told, a lot of my reason to buy this game is because it has a little bit of challenge built into it. Challenge thats been missing from MMO's the past 8 years. I am very happy that the pricing of the game will almost keep out the vast majority of people who would see that challenge changed so that they can play. Knowing this, I am HAPPY to pay extra to help the company recoup its investments and make a profit.

Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by Ruien

@rodarin

 

Your argument and that of the vast majority of people complaining stems from the fact you either cant afford the game in some way, or your used to a F2P like setup. When something comes along that interests you but locks itself away financially you get all uppity.

 

Alot of the uproar here is due to this and no matter how well you try and disguise yourself behind manufactured indignation over some design decision, the true reason is that you are mad you have to pay for this game.

 

 

You are just wrong. The race locks were chosen during the design phase as "necessary for the MMO to work" and then they pull the "oh you want to play any race in any faction just give us extra money!" card because well, they know it will sell. I couldn't careless about imperial THAT'S A GIMMICK to me, but going back on design decisions in this way is simply a money grab. But I guess they have to recoup their investment somehow. 

Like I said, manufactured indignation over a design choice. Your still going to buy tho from an earlier post you made.

@rodarin

 

Your argument and that of the vast majority of people complaining stems from the fact you either cant afford the game in some way, or your used to a F2P like setup. When something comes along that interests you but locks itself away financially you get all uppity.

 

Alot of the uproar here is due to this and no matter how well you try and disguise yourself behind manufactured indignation over some design decision, the true reason is that you are mad you have to pay for this game.

 

 

Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by Ruien

 They have 2 choices. Buy or don't buy. Otherwise they should shut up.

I disagree. I think they have a right to complain if they feel it is necessary. Otherwise, these forums would need to be shut down.

Only in this situation, I don't think there is much to complain about.

And these forums being shut down or become something better than the stinking pile of vomit everyone spews?

 

What gives anyone a right to tell anyone else how to spend their money. As a consumer, and thats what we all are, the ONLY right we have is to buy or dont buy. Once we have bought, then we pick up a few more rights.

 

Most people on this sight think that if they dont buy, no one should buy. They also have this inflated sense of self to think that if they dont buy, the game will fail.

 

I dont know why I come to this site other than after reading some of its forums I get to thinking, the new World order "might" not be such a bad idea.

I don't buy collectors editions of games... ever. Some mount or pet just doesn't do it for me.

 

I did buy this collectors edition and i thank you Zenimax for giving me a reason to do so.

 

Forgive all of these self entitled people who have been raised on welfare attitudes  who think they have a say in how you developed a game. They have 2 choices. Buy or don't buy. Otherwise they should shut up.

MMO's started out being very social. In fact it was a way for a lot of nerds to have friends and do things together. It wasn't till WoW brung the genre to mainstream soccer moms and console kiddies that the genre has changed to be largely solo able. In my opinion that hasn't been for the best, but I am not making a living off the games either.

 

In my MMO dreams I would go back to the beginning and thats where the genre stayed. The WoW crowd could have made their own genre. Sure there wouldn't have been soo many MMO's made. That would have been a good thing in my book since every new MMO is crap piled with more crap.

I bought the digital imp. I am happy with my choice. I don't see the controversy. What I do see is the over all entitled mentality that rules the forums on this site.

As Madimorga stated, people think because they pay an amount they are entitled to everything. That could be true in other areas of a market but it hasn't always applied to games or gaming. In fact that mentality has been very detrimental to gaming on a whole with games losing any type of challenge. it has also lead to games being made that emphasize the "reward" over the game play. Now developers create an award and then make gameplay around it for you to do to get it. Thats how you get dailies for gold or tokens or faction so you can get the new uber sword. Its pathetic.

ESO has done something different. They have put the emphasis back on the gameplay and the reward is just an extra. Thats why you have so many entitled pukes who don't like the game. They have never known anything different than the WoW and its clones mentality.

If  ESO stays the way it is, I will be giving them money just to let them know at least 1 person appreciates what they have done.

Originally posted by killion81
Originally posted by Miblet
Originally posted by DarkWays
Originally posted by Avarix

Originally posted by Ruien

I pre-ordered the digital Imp edition. I am really happy about it as well. The price is inline with other digital deluxe offers from other games and I think i am getting my money's worth.

 

The very best thing about it tho is, I wont be playing with most of the people from this site going by your poll. That alone would have made me throw money at the game. It being a sub game is another reason.

 

 

I agree that they are in fact getting rid of a certain audience with the decisions they have made. I just think the audience throwing money at the game now are the ones I would not enjoy playing a game with.

 

Originally posted by Miblet

Quite possibly not pre-order and purchase after launch depending on how things pan out.  I did enjoy the time I had with it but .

 

NDA still being in effect is really awful now, given people are now parting with their cash.


I completely agree with this. NDA should of been lifted before they started accepting orders. 

Why would they lift a NDA when it does not benefit them in anyway?  Happy people are often quiet while unhappy people are the loudest.

By not lifting the NDA prior to taking money you appear to be hiding something.  Whether you are or not is irrelevant, the perception will do the damage.

Just like in the movie industry, if a film halts any reviews of the product, or pre-screening you can bet there is something worrying them, and if it worries them it sure as hell should worry you, the consumer.

 

Did they walk back the faction lock? That was the first big hurdle for me.

There wasn't a voting option for "didn't get in beta yet and won't buy a game without trying it first," so i'm waiting without much optimism for an open beta or a trial period after launch.

If you pre-order.

 

The perception they are hiding something will harm them far less than videos of a garbage game all over the internet.  I haven't played in the beta and I haven't agreed to any NDA terms.  I have no idea if the game is any good, but I seriously doubt it's more than a huge cash grab at this point.  You would think if the game was awesome, they'd want testers filling the internet with that sentiment.

If the game was sooo bad, why arent there TONS of people breaking the NDA to tell you about it? In EVERY game thats released in the last 8 years, if the game has stunk, theres been so many NDA leaks it wasnt funny.

 

Could it be that because the game might be good, the testers actually value theirr accounts and wont break the NDA

I pre-ordered the digital Imp edition. I am really happy about it as well. The price is inline with other digital deluxe offers from other games and I think i am getting my money's worth.

 

The very best thing about it tho is, I wont be playing with most of the people from this site going by your poll. That alone would have made me throw money at the game. It being a sub game is another reason.

 

Brad, make another EQ or VG and I will pay thousands on your kickstarter. In my gaming circle of about 100, we have had the discussion of just what we would pay for an EQ(before PoP) with modern graphics and we all agree.... we would pay upwards of 50 a month with hundreds for the box price.

 

We have all payed thousands to Star Citizen and would not hesitate to spend the same on a real EQ sequel.

FtP games are made up of 2 types of people.

 

The parasites

And the people that dont mind paying for those parasites to play.

 

Im neither of those 2 and so I will support Teso and to a lesser extent, wildstar JUST because they are sub model.

 

 

I've got 25+ years in gaming with 20 of them being in MMO's. I have been a part of some of the best guilds in MMO history like the original Fires of heaven. I've beaten every boss and done 99% of the content in almost every MMO thats been released to date. I have more actual experience than these guys put together.

 

Teso will be the sleeper hit MMO when it launches. Fact.

I would appreciate a key as well please.
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