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Originally posted by coretex666

What is the point of having everyone capped anyway.

Is there any other reason to it than balance in PvP?

Does MMORPG have to be a perfectly balanced e-sport?

In my world, no. I think that MMORPGs sacrifice way too much to provide space for competitive PvP. In fact, they sacrifice the RPG part for it which is why we are getting these arcade shallow MMOs.

They are not supposed to be FPS, they are supposed to be massive RPGs. What is the point of RPG where your character gets capped and does not progress anymore? At level CAP, these so called MMORPGs become similar to FPS in design. They are still nice to play now and then, but the immersion and seriousness are gone.

Either make max level hardly obtainable (years) or remove levels completely. This design does not make any sense.

"Endgame" has nothing to do in RPG.

Just my opinion.

I think there should be both and something in between. I'd lean towards playing something more akin to what you describe though.

And in place of the tools to actually Roleplay we're getting a "4th Pillar" called story.

Originally posted by Ridelynn

Used gear is a double-edged sword.

I don't outright recommend it for a few reasons, but I also don't advise against it so long as the buyer knows what he/she is getting into.

Caveat emptor

- Used gear often will have no warranty support (either expired or non-transferrable).

- Not always from a reputable reseller, so returns/exchanges are often impossible.

- The gear may not be what was advertised, not everyone out there is exactly honest, and some parts it can be hard to tell just looking at them (generic DIMMs, some CPUs, etc).

- If you are buying online (Ebay or some such), you don't get a chance to see the part run before you pay for it. That may be the case even if your in person: a CPU and the buyer doesn't have a motherboard available to test it in, for example. Now this is also true for new retail gear, but with new retail gear you have an exchange period and a warranty period that more or less guarantee that it will work, or you can get your money back.

- You have no idea how the part was treated before hand - it could be that it was also dropkicked from 30 ft, just happens to work the one time the seller tested it afterwards, and has a lifespan of exactly 15 more minutes before some part that got knocked loose finally explodes. A more realistic example are aggressively overclocked parts - there is no way of knowing how much an aggressive overclock has degraded the silicon, or even that it was done; only that will have somewhat diminished the lifespan of the product.

- In a similar vein, you can only have a rough idea of what runtime the part has. All parts have a finite run time, silicon may last 10-20+ years, but mechanical parts maybe have an average lifespan of 3-5 years, even for high quality parts. Fan bearings, rotating hard drives, etc all fall under that category.

Most of the time, yeah, you get a really good deal. It's a lot like buying a used car though: sure you aren't paying the "depreciation tax", but there is also a much higher likelihood of getting ripped off, and there are very few lemon laws that can protect you. And there is a non-zero portion of the population that try to take advantage of just that.

Just be careful buying used, and don't spend more than you can afford to lose trying to get good deals. If your total budget is $500, and you spend it all on used parts, there's a good chance it'll all work out ok, but there's also a good chance something isn't going to work, and there probably aren't going to be any RMAs/Warranty repairs, like there would be if you were to buy new parts from a reputable vendor.


Your not wrong on any point other than maybe getting some used parts from Amazon might have certain guarantee's, much different than rolling the dice with CList.

Certainly if he had a $500 budget we wouldn't be having this conversation BUT if he only wants to spend $120 and is looking for an upgrade THEN the CPU is what needs to get replaced, one way or another. Replacing the video card is just not cost efficient.

I can only say that I've better luck with used parts then with Newegg. My first 2 Newegg purchases (Brand New) were duds and I still haven't been burned by a used part from other sources including Amazon. Again, personal experiences will ibviously vary. 

Does this technically count as thread necromancy?

On a $120 budget the only option I would reccomend is used. Seriously, I'm all about cost savings. Anyway here is a true story to illustrate cost / performance. I got 2x5770's for roughly $100 well, more like $70 (used), swapped those for a 5850 and then sold the 5850 for $100.  The reasoning behind selling the 5850 for $100? Someone was selling a 5970 black edition for $100 and I was like...oooooh, and I also got a 120GB ssd from the same guy for $30, and they all work!

So depending on your city population, waiting around for a used and cheap AMD 5800 or better series card and or a Core 2 Extreme CPU could be legit options. Having used and tested both the 5770 in Xfire and single configurations I believe The others are correct and that card is not your particular bottleneck, it runs both Skyrim and SWTOR smoothly on max on an i5 2400 setup. It struggles a bit with SC2 on max (ultra or extreme). Drops to roughly 15-30 FPS and some stuttering with a maxed out Mothership carrier army. But you don't care about RTS.

My 4870 512MB w/ E4400 was actually running SC2 quite well on medium / high - before UPS dropped it. Matter of fact, my woman's old E8400 with the Ep45-UD3L runs Skyrim quite easily on a 4870 and a 3870 (no mist on the 3870).


Side Note: After UPS dropkicked all 4 of our PCs off a 30ft ledge we were forced to upgrade. Before that I was in your position. I threw together a PC quickly just to have something to game on immediately but I didn't want to go all out seeing as I was not totally familiar with the tech landscape at the time. Had the PC's arrived intact I would have most likely found a cheap E8400 and OC'd to 4.0GHz(used).

Side side note: someone is selling a GTX260 here and I'm debating buying it to get the E8400 back up and running for no reason.



Your bottleneck is your CPU for sure. Games like crysis will shit on your CPU ALL day. Going from your E2160 to an E8400 may likely fix all your current issues. Or even a cheap used Q8600 or a QX6700. In short, Quiz is not wrong, he's a really nice guy who is just trying to help you out long term. If you won't get the FX chip/  MB, then the Q or QX intel series is the next best thing, third and last on the list is upgrading the 5770 which may not help at all.

Bottom line, they messed up the whole shabang.


They got a hold of one of the best IP's in the WORLD arguably a top 3 IP and they shenaniganzed it starting with not making their own engine, then continuing with not making a proper mmo. I can only guess what all those network tv commercial spots cost. What's a 7:30pm TV commercial spot cost these days? 

Good insight from the OP about other more efficient types of communities. MMORPG's could make a comeback over night if someone put some SWTOR money into a next gen type of MMO. Could take a while but someone or some company may still do it.

So after they finish WOW-ifying and GW2-ifying the market and sales continue to NOT be like WOW in it's prime maybe they'll notice a trend.

I don't know about anyone else but I can usually tell a lot about a game from GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE.

Also a long time fan of D&D / Forgotten Realms Neverwinter Nights, fan of the D&D Table Top experience and the books etc...

I did not feel like I just experienced a Forgotten Realms setting.

So, back to Skyrim?

Thanks for the detailed reply. On one hand I hate that computer parts are so temporary but then again, I can't remember the last time I kept a main gaming PC for longer than 2 years. Summary:

Get the 7850

Buy the best priced HDD and stay away from Hitachi and Seagate.


Roger that. Kind of funny that I found large amounts of people supporting every brand, I guess that's just how human statistics work. I bet we could find a large group of people that said McDonald's breakfast was a healthy meal.

I'd like to buy another few storage drives, nothing less than 1TB each drive.

I've heard a pretty much 50 / 50 debate on either manufacturer. I've personally went with WD for almost all my life, I experimented with maxtor once and of course the one time I did deviate from the WD path, the drive failed and it didn't take very long.

I read somewhere (Ah no sources!) that seagate uses better tech in their HDD manufactuering and thus have better drive performance. Is that true? Does it make a difference? Go with whats cheaper?

Also, I've got a tip on a 6950 2GB edition XFX for $150 or should I just suck it up and buy a 7850 for $175 on newegg?



EDIT: Thx in advance for all the help

The mood here @ is totally opposite from a year ago lol. When I was kind of doom and gloom everyone else was misty eyed and hopeful.

So anyway, I'm not feeling TESO, I don't see the badassness but I love Skyrim to death...obviously. I actually think Neverwinter is looking pretty decent. Like everyone is saying, only time will tell, but hell no, no pre-orders for me either.

I have said Diablo III in the past but I did get quite a few good hours, a Tshirt, 2 posters and the soundtrack for free out of it. Minus the free shit, then yes...D3

Nothing new here, hell, WOW does all the things he's suggesting anyway, like how Paladin's can (or used to haven't played in a while) heal with Divine Storm.

I'm not one to remain stagnant though, I think there is a better system than the Trinity, I'm sure a few smart people have already come up with a superior alternative, in a smokey basement somewhere. Maybe not smokey, they might have vaoprizers.

For those thinking "blah on and that we don't need to reinvent the wheel." I have one word for you, TWEEL!

$1800 Build
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Getting a new PC, budget $1,800 USD. It'll need everything, monitor and all the peripherals. I really want to stretch this one and the help would be appreciated. Also, can I say it? $%ck Crossfire / SLI AND 3D..well, for now anyways.

I went through several phases that held the same opinions of almost everyone who posted in this thread. The answer should be easy though, some are smarter than others therefore some will be TOO - smart or experienced or both and then some. That's just reality right? Not all gamers have the same level of intelligence or experience.

For some, playing modern MMO's has become tedious. <Searching brain for metaphor> like playing tic tac toe. At some point you master the game and it is no longer a question of being challenged but more of a torture / grind scenario.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Are these place holder class names during development?

Or are they really going to launch with classes named stuff like "control wizard" and "great weapon fighter"?

Because sounds cheesey.

I just wanted to +1 your comment lol

I'm going to assume they are place holder names... it may help me keep my sanity.

Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by ObiClownobi
Themepark, like Skyrim without the freedom and the combat, not sure what that leaves apart from a IP

I've read/heard from people that have played the game that the combat is very Skyrim like. Just with a limited hotbar. Mouse buttons for each hand. Hold mouse button to build up a power hit using stamina.

Skyrim was pointed in the right direction, no need to take steps backwards, pigeonhold classes, obviously a downgrade in graphics...sorry now I'm just being negative. I'll just STFU and go back to Skyrim, my bad.

Dec 22 2011 on SWTOR so technically GW2 takes the cake but, I would say I wasn't very impressed with either... equally. Not that they weren't good games or even average but, it really is time for something new, I mean, I've got Bridges that need to be used, Sandy Bridges and Ivy Bridges that need to be taken advantage of.

Thanks guys. I think maybe hearing it from other people just might do the trick so this is very appreciated. Then again, more stubborn people might feel ambushed :O

I'm pretty sure she already has peripherals etc... She IS sticking with the asus case (I think thats what she likes most about the PC). I'll go ahead and pass on the whole 'go make me a sammich" 

The whole issue of the refund could suck though. Having to wait up to 2 weeks for anything is never awesome.

Happy Holidays my fellow enthusiasts, how you all doing?

I'm hoping you all can nerd rage and help me with a little problem I have here. I've got yet another friend who has recently bought a computer from best buy. I believe it is this model:


It cost my friend roughly $800 - I'm assuming this doesn't include sales tax. My friend then continued on to buy a replacement video card, the AMD 7770 and an unknown corsair 700W power supply.


The bottom line: I was trying to convince my friend that with basically $900 she could assemble a much better PC herself. Can I get a little support here, I don't want her to get the short end of the stick as I've seen so many friends down that path, purchasing store bought PC's only to have it backfire in their face. All the items were bought in the last 24hrs so i'm thinking that returning everything shouldn't be a problem.


She mostly plays MMO's but would like her PC to be capable of running the most graphic intensive games out today at decent framerates.


For some unknown reason she thinks made a great purchase, I would like us to turn her from the dark side!

Originally posted by Jyiiga
Originally posted by deakon
Originally posted by Jyiiga

Yeah I agree with several others here. I get a GW2 vibe from a lot of what they say. I really do not get a Elder Scrolls vibe from anything beyond the setting of the game.

Most of the things that draw me to Elder Scrolls games and suck up hundreds of my hours.. Do not appear to exist in this title. 

When you start mashing in things like class based gameplay, group oriented dungeons, pvp areas... None of that is ES at all and all of it has already been done many times. 

So an elder scrolls mmo should have no pvp or group content then? Wouldnt that just be TES:VI then tho?

After watching that 10 minute trailer that put out for the game I was literally laughing in my chair. Watching scenes where it was taking 5+ people to take down things like a Flame Atronach was just plain silly to me. Dungeons from all the other ES titles were a very special experience.. Creeping through them slowly, watching for traps, stealth takedowns, epic battles against superior odds. Then you watch that video and see people bunny hopping about.. Nothing during those 10 minutes of footage made it look different over anything else we have. It looked just like a WOW/SWTOR dungeon zerg. 


If what they have shown us so far.... Is what the game is going to be like.. Its going to be another 2-3 month speed bump title for the majority of the people that play it. 


As far as I knew, bethesda had nothing to do with the development of TESO. That ofcourse leads me to think is just a branding scam seeing as how it's been pointed out a bunch of times how the lore has been butchered in order to make race / map locations easier.


I wasn't impressed with the gameplay video either and the only thing I hope for at this point is that they don't pull a SWTOR on me I.E. Delay or cancel another single player RPG installment in favor of attempting to get more sales from their online title.


That gameplay video was pretty disturbing actually. I felt like I was being scammed when they kept showing the melee characters in the Skyrim horned helmet. I'm looking for a longterm mmo home, this isn't it.

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