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Originally posted by Hawkster

I had to do it.....he forced me to look.....

Looking at the Subscriptions and Active Accounts with a peak above 1 million chart on mmodata.net

(all numbers approximate from looking at the wavy colored lines on a chart)

WoW (a paltry) 7.5 million (looks like pre-WoD)

AION a MASSIVE 2.4 million

Lineage & Lineage 2 a WHOPPING 2 million (combined)

SWOTR a CRUSHING 1.2 million

Runescape and OVERWHELMING 1.2 million

So....all of the non-WoW numbers combined are...let's see...carry the 2, put the integer somewhere over here....the decimal goes here...AH.....

6.8 MEEEEELYON Subscribers!!!  Yes that totally out does the WoW numbers by 700K!!!  Oh...wait....sorry.....*cough*.....that is 700K LESS than WoW.....pre-WoD of course....

Oh....and, the numbers for the Lineages were current as of.....hmm...2009

AION, SWOTR, and Runescape as of 2012.5

Wait...does that mean some of those are out of date?

 

Yup, I can see where he is coming from!!!  (Oh, I am sure I looked at the wrong info, etc etc......)

And...before the fanboy accusation comes out.....played WoW from Beta Vanilla through the Ghostcrapper ruination.  Wish I had never touched Catatonic and Pandaworld.  Don't play now....hate what they have done to the game.

Thanks for listening.

 

End Transmission

 

Hahaha!!! well i applaud you but i already knew the data that is why i am ignoring him. 

Lol... but thanks anyways your post was really funny. 

FFXIV is very socializing MMO. It is up to you how much you want to socialize. I played FFXI for few years and that time i didn't know any better. But now today i won't play FFXI if you pay me to do it. Days of forced grouping are done for.
Originally posted by Kuinn

I dont get the math though, if 3.3 million people bought WoD and that pushed the subs over 10 mil, does that mean that all the rest, 7,5 million subs are still playing Pandaria? I mean, if there's 3.3 million WoD players making the total over 10 mil subs, the rest have to be in Pandaria still, or wut?

I am sure article is talking about the resubs as in new and returning players. 

haven't played WOW in years and this expac pulled me right back in.

I rate the following expansions as..

WOTLK

WOD

BC

MOP

Cata

 

I am glad to be back so many years.

Originally posted by furbans
Originally posted by coretex666
Originally posted by Kaladin
Report back in a month or two.

What do you think will happen to WoW in next 2 months? Report back in year or two would still be nonsense.

Obviously the population will decrease, but there is unlikely to be a significant drop in next...I dont know...decade?

 

Hardly.  Subs will likely go back down to what it was before and depending what gets released next year then subs might fall below the lowest point.  Really the market is total crap right now.  ESO failed pretty bad, same with Wildstar.  Next year we have Everquest Next and Star Citizen are the only ones off the top of my head that will most surely put a pretty big dent in WoW.

 

The point though the is the OP made this high praise of WoW reaching over 10 million subs which will be short lived.  WoD isn't all that great of an xpac, there are a number of glaring defects that in the next few months players will start realizing like they do with all new MMOs or expansions.

What is the lowest point?  because i have been hearing how WOW will have this steep decline since Cata's release and it never happened. And when now finally since WOTLK WOW has a very solid expac again it will hit its lowest next year?

You my friend never met 'logic' in your life.

Also please spare us with this 'new X MMO will put big dent in wow'. Just like...

Rift

SWTOR

GW2

ESO 

and every other wannbe WOW killer out there right? Its been 10 years let it go.

Originally posted by Bigboo

Why oh why isnt it possible to report someone for stupidity.....

sry mods. I take my bann now.

All his posts are baiting and personal insults. You don't even need to report him for being stupid since he is breaking every other TOS of these forums ::lol

Originally posted by newtextdocument
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by newtextdocument
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by newtextdocument

Btw if you look at the actual data, wow has been declining year on year and at the start of 2014 had approximately 7.5 million subscribers, not the amount you guys claim at 10 million.

 

Not only that but wows decline has been steady, it has only increased once in 2011 before then falling again with no increase in subscribers, just falls until WoD expansion.

 

3 monthes from now, we will see the same thing again with wows numbers 1st falling to the 7.5 million it was at and then below 7 million and beyond.

 

Wow has been facing steady decline and its all plotted for you to see on mmodata.net.

Even if it drops to 5 million it is still impressive for a decade old MMO. So i don't know what you are trying to prove here? that a decade old MMO is losing players? *shrugs*

It will still have more subscribers than any of your favorite MMO you swear by.

uts very simple, I was trying to prove exactly what I said.

 

I wanted to prove that the people who said that wow isn't declining were wrong and I wanted to prove wrong the claim that wow even at pre expansion levels would have more subs than the next 5 mmos put together ( it hass less than 2 not more than 5) and I wanted to prove that the people claiming wows sibscribers were over 10 million were lying by using out of date data.

 

I write that right at the start which you didn't bother to read because you were so offended that I didn carry on the lies of wow fan boys.

Huh? nobody even disagreed that WOW subs are not declining. That was just you stating the obvious when no one even asked for it. You clearly hijacked the thread (no surprise there) and made it about something it wasn't.

And using the term 'wow fanboy' in every post on a newly made account with majority of posts obsessing over WOW.. doesn't instal much confidence in anyone. That is why people are accusing you of trolling.

You are not here to discuss..you are here to start trouble as i am sure the reason you got your previous account banned.

Go read other peoples posts, you will see lies including that wow even at pre WoD levels had more subs than the next 5 mmos which I have proven wrong and claims that wows subs are 10 million which is false too.

 

You are blindly supporting wow like fanboys do so you don't check the date nor what other people have written, you just want to object to the truth because god forbid that people don't say nice things bout wow lol.

Sorry buddy you haven't proven anything wrong because there wasn't anything to prove. And the fact that you said 'wow isn't that successful' is pure baiting and i am not gonna bite anymore.

And me a WOW fanboy? bwahahah.. clearly shows you are just lashing at anyone who doesn't believe in your silly comments. That fact that you think i am a WOW fanboy is hilarious. Such a fanboy that i haven't played WOW for over 7 years!!

Originally posted by newtextdocument
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by newtextdocument

Btw if you look at the actual data, wow has been declining year on year and at the start of 2014 had approximately 7.5 million subscribers, not the amount you guys claim at 10 million.

 

Not only that but wows decline has been steady, it has only increased once in 2011 before then falling again with no increase in subscribers, just falls until WoD expansion.

 

3 monthes from now, we will see the same thing again with wows numbers 1st falling to the 7.5 million it was at and then below 7 million and beyond.

 

Wow has been facing steady decline and its all plotted for you to see on mmodata.net.

Even if it drops to 5 million it is still impressive for a decade old MMO. So i don't know what you are trying to prove here? that a decade old MMO is losing players? *shrugs*

It will still have more subscribers than any of your favorite MMO you swear by.

uts very simple, I was trying to prove exactly what I said.

 

I wanted to prove that the people who said that wow isn't declining were wrong and I wanted to prove wrong the claim that wow even at pre expansion levels would have more subs than the next 5 mmos put together ( it hass less than 2 not more than 5) and I wanted to prove that the people claiming wows sibscribers were over 10 million were lying by using out of date data.

 

I write that right at the start which you didn't bother to read because you were so offended that I didn carry on the lies of wow fan boys.

Huh? nobody even disagreed that WOW subs are not declining. That was just you stating the obvious when no one even asked for it. You clearly hijacked the thread (no surprise there) and made it about something it wasn't.

And using the term 'wow fanboy' in every post on a newly made account with majority of posts obsessing over WOW.. doesn't install much confidence in anyone. That is why people are accusing you of trolling.

You are not here to discuss..you are here to start trouble as i am sure the reason you got your previous account banned. And by looks of it i think you won't last much longer on this new account either.

Originally posted by newtextdocument

Btw if you look at the actual data, wow has been declining year on year and at the start of 2014 had approximately 7.5 million subscribers, not the amount you guys claim at 10 million.

 

Not only that but wows decline has been steady, it has only increased once in 2011 before then falling again with no increase in subscribers, just falls until WoD expansion.

 

3 monthes from now, we will see the same thing again with wows numbers 1st falling to the 7.5 million it was at and then below 7 million and beyond.

 

Wow has been facing steady decline and its all plotted for you to see on mmodata.net.

Even if it drops to 5 million it is still impressive for a decade old MMO. So i don't know what you are trying to prove here? that a decade old MMO is losing players? *shrugs*

It will still have more subscribers than any of your favorite MMO you swear by.

Originally posted by newtextdocument

Btw you are wrong, wow at pre expansion levels didn't have more subscribers than the next 5 largest mmos added together,  you are looking at out of date data.

 

If wow falls to pre expansion levels it wont even have as many players as the next 2 largest mmos put together, in fact it will be significantly less.

 

Go look at mmo data. net for up to date figures instead of spouting a lie to support your wow fan boy antics.

And which are these two largest MMOS you are talking about?

Looks like you are very unhappy that WOW is doing great.

 

Originally posted by newtextdocument

It wont take a year or 2.

 

In 3 monthes, wows subscribers will drop again dramatically like it has done for every expansion since cataclysm.

And?

10 year old MMO always fluctuating between 7 to 11 million subs. That is damn impressive no matter how much people try to undermine it.

Yes it is 10 years old.. let that sink in for  a minute and yet all its expacs sell in millions. 

Originally posted by Forgrimm
More than 3.3 million copies of WoD sold as of day 1 of the expansion, that's insane.

Indeed!! wow (no pun intended) 

Holy s***!!! 3 million people as resubs? wow!!

Only WOW has that kind of pull.

Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by cesmode8

Garrisons...the final nail in the coffin of killing communities.

 

Garrisons look great and offer a lot of potential...a great time sink.  No doubt.

 

But what is it doing to the social aspect of the game, the community aspect that people LOVE LOVE to harp about?  Whenever a new game comes out, people complain its a single player game in an MMO space, and that theres no community.  Well, it sounds like you hardly have to leave your garrison once you're going with it.  Why go to Stormwind or Org?  Can someone answer that?  I mean, in Cata they all but killed all of the factions main cities because org and stormwind were the new places to be with all of the breadcrumb quests starting there, and all of the portals there.  they admitted this mistake.  And now it sounds like you can do nearly everything from your garrison that you would normally do in a city?  

 

To people that constantly rip new MMOs for their lack of community and social features, how does the introduction of Garrisons bode to your argument now?

 

ER...mechanics previously put in place already killed off most of the socialization aspects of WOW, Garrisons can hardly hurt anything by eliminating what little was left.

 

I socialize everyday in WOW. More than any other MMO i have played. Thanks to the very passionate and active community. If you are referring to forced aspect of socialization then yes... i am glad it is not there.

In WOW people socialize not because they 'have' too but because they 'want' too.

I have never seen more mis managed MMO in my life. 
Originally posted by orbitxo
Originally posted by Salute

It has nothing to do with WoW. If anyone wants to play WoD he will do it anyway, despite what WS, ESO, SWTOR or any other mmo in the market offers. WoW is a whole category by itself.

I m playing EvE, WS and D3 atm (planning to buy FM2015 + Dragon Age) and i m not into WoD yet, not because of these games, but because i don't want to right now, for many other reasons. Maybe later, we will see.

Anyway this is a free week trial, to show ppl Drop 3 and the changes made to the game. From content, to megaservers and all the changes in general. If someone is interested to see those changes then he can use the code, else just pass it. Its so simple.

so agree with you here.

 

iam playing my warhammer rts game on steam, and WS , and D3 with some WoD until the 30day expires, wont be resubbing to wow-but have it there incase i desire to play it again...

yah all these 'no sayers'  abviously still feel bitter abt whats happend to WS for them.

iam still enjoying the game.

 

 

Bitter? more like disappointed about the biggest MMO flop of 2014. 

Originally posted by Snakex
Im a Vanillia player. My rogue is roughly 9 years old. What the game is becoming is very obvious now, no longer just a theory.
Leveling is easy, mob killing easy, there is no struggle, iv barley been playing WOD due to queue issues, but yet, im still 96 already, without even trying.
But i did find this video that i thought people should see. Watch it all the way through and really reflect...if you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFWh9aY4pas

The purpose of this video is to demonstrate the problems faced by new players when joining the game and why they do not feel the incentive to advance into the game. This video in no way is suggesting 'wow is too easy' or any other conclusions surrounding that statement people wish to force upon the video. The same goes for 'rose tinted goggles' or special snowflake' and any other nonsensical arguments that are not mentioned in any way

 

Mis representing the video when the uploader clearly states what it is about?

Originally posted by SBFord

Trion's CEO Scott Hartsman has issued an official response to the allegation that there is a duplication bug for APEX currency. APEX is purchased with real world dollars and, when opened, yields in-game credits. Players have alleged that this is an issue that has been in the game since alpha.

"There isn't a dupe bug.  There were some instances where APEX could be used to yield more credits than one was supposed to get.   Our investigation showed that this affected a relatively small number of people. We've temporarily paused their accounts and we're doing a targeted cleanup on them right now, then releasing them. 

People who were found to have intentionally abused it appear to be around a dozen globally, and they'll see more serious actions taken against their account."

Keep an eye on the ArcheAge forums for more as it is revealed.

Anyone really believe this guy?

Trion really needs to put someone else in his place if they want to save their game.

Yep got the email. Read it and hit delete. Never going back. 
Originally posted by Amjoco
OP, you probably have never played any of the Elder Scrolls games before. Good luck in your journey!

Other than the name this MMO is nothing like ES games.

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