Yes i agree. I must say they have done very good piece of work, i mean about the all game. May be one of the best action online games of last years. Yes COd is great, BF is great, but this is low budget title in a front of these big hits.

Well done ... i love it. 

CS Army clan

I want only to say one thing .... dont please make this game more easy for new players incoming and be more aimed on players who pay you years and years since beta. Thanks

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Originally posted by DashDash

Yes and taht is what i mean. People .. players ... the say what they want to craft from you. But all what u can do is crafting for PvP gears. There are things that making game wider. Activities, what arent set by players... Is there some player who want to craft better saddle for horse, some nice carpet, make you roof components, is here permanent player whoo will give you task where u must make something in time limit and he will give you something if you make it? Or something like this. I have like triffles in game, what makes game wider. I like pvp, but  i dont like if the game is only pvp.

There are some activities, that cant be handled by players, because these players would be bored for players that want some fun :)

I dont think id bad, havent nothing to attack DarkFall, i only want to say that i want something more to do ingame, thats all.

 

Then craft boats, rafts, clothing, or something else. Tame mounts. Craft building modules. Take an order of x amount of items from a player, and get them done by the deadline.

Why do people feel that they NEED an NPC to tell them what to do all the time??

Yes, there's PVP in the game, but it doesn't HAVE to be your focus. Darkfall has crafting, housing, PVE, mounts, ships, and a plethora of activities that don't involve PVP in any way.

 

You're not going to be able to do any of that while avoiding PvP. The game isn't entirely PvP but it's always there and in your face much of the time. It just isn't game for everyone and that's not a bad thing. The biggest problem with the trial is it's too short for people to see what the game is really about. As to why people need a NPC to tell them what to do that's just the way people are. There are always more followers than leaders. It's not even a matter of who's "hardcore" enough for the game. It's simply how some like to spend their leisure time and some don't.

No, you dont understand me :) i dont want to compare this game with scriptmade mmos like wow is. I know whats sandbox. I play MMos a few years and im part of local MMO press. :)

Only what i say is wide reality ingame. Ultima Online was sandbox with living world .....

DF is living battlefield ;)

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Originally posted by DashDash

Yes and taht is what i mean. People .. players ... the say what they want to craft from you. But all what u can do is crafting for PvP gears. There are things that making game wider. Activities, what arent set by players... Is there some player who want to craft better saddle for horse, some nice carpet, make you roof components, is here permanent player whoo will give you task where u must make something in time limit and he will give you something if you make it? Or something like this. I have like triffles in game, what makes game wider. I like pvp, but  i dont like if the game is only pvp.

There are some activities, that cant be handled by players, because these players would be bored for players that want some fun :)

I dont think id bad, havent nothing to attack DarkFall, i only want to say that i want something more to do ingame, thats all.

 

Then craft boats, rafts, clothing, or something else. Tame mounts. Craft building modules. Take an order of x amount of items from a player, and get them done by the deadline.

Why do people feel that they NEED an NPC to tell them what to do all the time??

Yes, there's PVP in the game, but it doesn't HAVE to be your focus. Darkfall has crafting, housing, PVE, mounts, ships, and a plethora of activities that don't involve PVP in any way.

Yes i dont thjink this game havent much to do in. What i said, this game have poor PvE ... i dont want tons of NPCs, tons of mobs to kill, i want to do something more than do everything for PVP. Its from 80% PVP focused game ...

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Originally posted by DashDash

The only thing i dont play DF is like someone said, lack of content. .. yes its sandbox game, but UO or Star Wars Galaxies are too and you have much more to do in them. I like PvP much, but need 50:50 to do in game. I want to mine something, i want to do good craft, i want to do some interesting quests ... yes, quests should be in living world too. I must go into post office to do something, i must do something in my work, i must go to buy something, etc. DF is a lot PvP only for me here in game. Mining and killng mobs is only fro crafting that is only for making PvP gear what u must lose :) Full drop is good, i like this circle of making, earning new, etc. Its good for ingame economics, but logicaly .... this game havent living world, this game is only big war. Everything you can do ingame is chained into PvP.

I want sandbox, where can ppl chose what to do, without be bored if they dont want only kill others. Something more like UO ... i hope Mortal will bring this up. Untill i think i will grind quests in lotro :)

 

Mining: In game

Crafting: In game

Quests.....you used the example of doing something at work, buying something, going to the post office, etc. But did an NPC give you those tasks, or did you do them out of necessity?? Darkfall is like that. I craft sets of armor to fill my ready bags so that I will have gear to use in PVP fights. I kill Akathars because I'm out of mandrake, and killing them is faster than farming for it.

I travel to a neighboring city to buy a set of R50 swords. No NPC told me to do these things...they come from simply living in the world. Necessity drives my actions, as it should.

I can choose to kill players, or mobs....or nothing at all if I feel I don't want combat at the moment. There are plenty of things to do.

The game world, because of it's clan warfare / political nature, IS alive....far more alive than any PVE game. It changes constantly, with cities changing hands, being destroyed, being built, enemies moving into nearby territories (or being forced out), there's nothing static or stagnant about it.

new players won't see this though, if they stick to the starting NPC towns and just piddle away at goblins. The beginning areas of the game are a tutorial, if you will. They're there to give you a base of operations when you're first learning the game. After that, you should head out and find a clan, explore the world.

But don't expect an NPC to tell you to do it.

Yes and taht is what i mean. People .. players ... the say what they want to craft from you. But all what u can do is crafting for PvP gears. There are things that making game wider. Activities, what arent set by players... Is there some player who want to craft better saddle for horse, some nice carpet, make you roof components, is here permanent player whoo will give you task where u must make something in time limit and he will give you something if you make it? Or something like this. I have like triffles in game, what makes game wider. I like pvp, but  i dont like if the game is only pvp.

There are some activities, that cant be handled by players, because these players would be bored for players that want some fun :)

I dont think id bad, havent nothing to attack DarkFall, i only want to say that i want something more to do ingame, thats all.

The only thing i dont play DF is like someone said, lack of content. .. yes its sandbox game, but UO or Star Wars Galaxies are too and you have much more to do in them. I like PvP much, but need 50:50 to do in game. I want to mine something, i want to do good craft, i want to do some interesting quests ... yes, quests should be in living world too. I must go into post office to do something, i must do something in my work, i must go to buy something, etc. DF is a lot PvP only for me here in game. Mining and killng mobs is only fro crafting that is only for making PvP gear what u must lose :) Full drop is good, i like this circle of making, earning new, etc. Its good for ingame economics, but logicaly .... this game havent living world, this game is only big war. Everything you can do ingame is chained into PvP.

I want sandbox, where can ppl chose what to do, without be bored if they dont want only kill others. Something more like UO ... i hope Mortal will bring this up. Untill i think i will grind quests in lotro :)

I dont understand these stupid coments .... Skirmishes is only one of functions in game. Lotro isnt skirmishes ... skirmishes is part of lotro. If u dont want to play it, go play something other and dont post some stupidities like ... soloing skirmishes, pets etc whent you know big piece of **** about this game. Try it and rate it ... But stop posting and *lame flame*

I think skirmishes is interesting one part of the game .... like in past, lotro developers think about "what new we will bring to our players" ... i think as one of the few, they are doing well in this option. They wabnt to bring something new and they try it. Not only promises. They do ...

And if its not a stunishing and neverending fun for all, they will keep it in game, but they will think about something other new.

Like in past with session play (not new improvements), hobbies (not new improvements), housing (not new improvements) .. etc ... but its all something what makes this game wider and wider and not only adjust mash like many other games are today.

I think skirmishes is good arena / cinematic / battlefield fight field-guildwars missions mash, with interesting chances for further expansion options, which may come regardless of developments in the world around...

After launch of VG i stayed back like after launch of AoC. Now i play AoC with a lot of players who played since launch and it looks the game is going through the right way. Much more palyers in last months. And much more after new patch. Yes a lot of players are sad from this update, but .... that is normal in a way of big changes like in this.

I hope the VG will have the same. I kept this game back, because it failed on launch too and i still wait. But it looks that they will have problems to make this game mor epopulated. Like u said they want to relaunch it and release some relay big change update, what will take an attention of potential players. I hope one day it will go :)

I cant understand, why a lot of players dont like older games and still looking forward for new releases. If i can say ... now is AoC another game, VG looks much better than was in release. The same was in EQ2 ... EQ2 is one of the content most full games ever and how its around new palyers comunity? Dead... ye, why they all want to go into new games and throwing that games back. Yes im looking forward to play SWTOR, may be Mortal Online etc. .. but why to say i wait for this games i will not play old crap ... damn, why? ... when something will be launched, yes, it can bee good, it can be great, but still ... after a few years it will be much and much better... but a lot of these palyers who waited for these new titles will not see it, because they will be in another noe games in these times. I dont understand, how can be fun for most MMO player to be "Launch tester / Late beta testers" of much release games ....

I dont get it. Its very strange to see how ppl in AoC see all things around 1.0.5. A lot of players likes it that i know. Im on Fury. I dont understand how someone can say AoC is history. Man ... every older MMO is history in a front of new MMOs in a way to be released, that have great potencial. Lotro is still great game and a lot of players left into Warhammer, Everquest 2 is still great game and a lot of players left into lotro at release. A lot of  WoW palyers now are in AoC and Lotro. PPL are going through. If u have like MMOs u feel exigence to test them all :) ...

I like play a game that i love. Lotro was one of my most favorite MMOS ever. I have played it 1,5 of year. I still ike it, but i like a bit WoW too so after this 1,5 i played some months more wow. After these months i played now fifth month AoC and i like it. I dont think that MMOgameing is about camping in one game. For a lot of players its a 4 years long camp in WoW ... or another game. I play currently game if i have taste on it.

AoC isnt history .. a lot of new players still going into game. Only in our guild, we have 20+ new players in last 3 weeks. From it its around 10 old players reactivated and second half are new completly fresh players from WoW and Lotro the most.

All of us we have like 1.5 patch. I think its more complexity game now and its good. It not only about gank now. I like PVE much more now. We have good group of players from may be 5 different guilds and we are going through instances. Its fun for all of us. Its bitter much harder to play without fails and mobs are little bit thougher.

New itemization is good and player stats are on of the best and deepest ive ever see in MMOs. Only in may be Anarchy Online is more number around stats now :D ... and EQ2 and these more mature games ... finaly ..now it looks much like MMOrpg and not like some kind of GuildWars game ...

I have ranger alt and i must say hes much lesser on DPS than was before patch. But im sad for this? no. I like it .... fight is more about think what next skill i will use now. Not only assasination after assasination. Kill them all hided from behind. It was fun for a lot of these who now tolking about what the hell is going on nooow in PvP .....

Only thing i dont like is bad balance of some casters. But i hope its going to be better in next patches.

Great work Funcom ... game looks now much more palyable since release.  Only please in the first steps, now work on balances in PvP and then will be great to work on highend individual content like more deeper crafting, player housing, activities like herbalism, fishing, etc.... things that are important to feel ingame some smell of virtual living. What is important for a lot of players. To feel ingame virtual life. You are on a good way.

Thanks, great to see that the comunity is alive and much better to see these activities around AoC than a lot of noob shouts about unbalances of overpowered classes in game. Thanks :)

I dont know how globaly, but i still meet a lot of players and a lot of new players on high lvls, that stoped games a lot of months ago. A lot of them now say ... im like newb, im here after 6 months. It looks good i like it. In our guild on Fury we have 15+ new players in last 3 weeks, where half of them are old players that moved back and second half ew players that payed after trial. A lot of other ppl, my friends, going to go into game after they will pass theyr last month of subscription in currently payed game.

I think game looks fresh in last months and i like new system the most. Today its not only about ganking, but PVE going to be better and better. And thios game wants to be better in PVE, because without it, it another GuildWars like fighting game without deep. Only one thing i dont like in 1.0.5 is bad rebalance. I think Necro is the biggest unbalance fail ever in all AoC patches line. But like they said, now is the most important way of development fixing of these unbalances.

I hope game have theyr second breath. More boxes of game sold in 3 last months, more discussed, more patched.

I hope its going to be better, but FC must have theyr eyes still open now and doing very good in way of what palyer want the most. If they will keep that, community will be happy like in way of development of Turbines Lotro.

I can't catch on, why every new game must be compared with WoW. Yes, because 90% of MMO players don't know any other MMO game on the market. I apprehend, that can be compared WoW with some similar title. But how can someone compare two differrent games with completly different game system? I will go play something, because its different and fun to play, not for why its better or not from something ....

Originally posted by pwnzorellOr

Originally posted by DashDash

And ... im sorry for my crappy and fast written English .)

 

your english is pretty ok, i understood everything - and yes, the review wasn't unbiased, the reviewer posted here that they only make reviews of games that they like and also play, they didn't give it a rating of 9.5, readers of their site did that, like with all the other games, that explains the weird scores that some of these games have. :)

 

ok, back to searching for the warhammer 40k mmo and where i can download it, later. ;D

:D yes ... ahh, thanks for remember me, i must put it into mmorpg.cz game list too :)

I dont think that can be clearly objectively based review on DFO, what can take an 9/10 score for game. I dont play it. Only know this game from reviews, videos, posts and my friends refers. Im head redactor on www.mmorp.cz site for around 4 years and i was redactor of gamesport.cz and reviewer for gamezone.cz some years back, so im not newb in this way.

DF in my eyes isnt and cant be perfect title. In all ways, this game has HC system "wannabelike UO" but in many ways, this game havent a lot to call me in. May be Mortal Online will have got it. But not DF...

If some game wants to be hardcore, wants to simulate virtual woirld, virtual living ... thats the right hc game in my eyes. If u remove FPS aiming, full drop and skillbased system, this will be one of the worst games on the market..

I dont want to rate this game, i dont know this game a lot to can do it. I only want to say, the game is overated by many players who like this game. Seem like on spain web review. I say again, game isnt that great to take 9/10 ... because this game only made one step to be little bit different, but isnt unique. If some player who dont want FPS aiming in game, who dont need full drop in PvP will look for a new mmo to play, he will miss this game by a loong bow. If someone want to rate a game, must keep in mind to rate it objectively, not subjectively. It not nepends on "what reviewer likes on game" but on "what player in general" can like on this game. Another important is to rate all aspects of game ... graphics, sound, service, lags, ping, community, price, content, play fun, etc. and all realy objective.

Repeating again i dont want to say here,. this game is bad or good. Only what i say is, in my eyes this game should be fun to play in some ways, but this game not looks perfect. And i cant rate game subjectively 9/10 only for reason i like to play it. I like many games a lot, but i know about its problems and if i review it i must keep these problems or deficiencies in my mind and expose them in final review. I cant rate game like perfect only if is perfect for players who like it, because for players who think about play it, it neednt to be perfect for them too..

And ... im sorry for my crappy and fast written English .)

BLAH BLAH BLAH ......

Most skilled ?? Damn, please not more ... i will kill myself. Skilled in what? ... the real answer is, only skilled in one game. In DF. Yes, all games wants another skill, another play in wow, another style in EQ, another in Lotro, another in conan. If u are "Mr. Skilled, u can't compare it with other MMO's" ... still the same like im verry skilled in COD, doesn't mean i will beat everyone here in CS ...... isn't it true ? ...

That big open world ...yes, is realy big, but not so big like they said before launch.

Full loot and realtime aiming .. yes, thats are good quality of this game.

Yes i like that, i like type of game where i can be everything i want, if i will one month use one handed sword i'll be more skilled with it. If i will also run run run i will be faster ....... uuuuuuh, whyyyy my god everyone in game like that use scripts to skillup it all faster up ???? aaaaaahh, yes, because everyone wants to have it the best and highest. Yes, so ... in this game will be one time, when all of HC players whoo like this game will have "still like in other games" : who wants to use bow in the most, highest archery, etc. so, what are differences, what that game trying to do between players ? ... oh, they are here, but not so much .. why all my friends now have highest running, highest swimming, .... oooh and if u will shoot spells evereywhere around u, u will rise your skill in taht too, ... aaah thats so clever tooo :))

I like sandbox type of games, played Shadowbane, played UO ... not so much like every classical UO player here, but played them.. i know what are big pros of these system, but still it has some cons ... ant that are many of them why is this hc style isnt a lot popular in today times. U cant compare what's better, u can say whats better for you, but it shouldnt be best for all .... i like today diversity of MMO titles, because everyone can search for a game the best builded for him.

I like deep system of this game, but should be more thought to prevent cheating and making it easyer for everyone. That makes a lot of differences between palyers and everyopne wants to be better, everyone will try to make his way easyer.

What i realy dislike is technical face of game .... crappy models and may be the worst animation in last 5 years i saw.

Stop be like sheep and stop playing something, only because all around u play it. Play what you like, no what other wants to give you to have like.

 Play wow if u like wow, play war if u like war, play lotro, play conan play eve or EQ .. it doesnt matter, but people, stop shouting everything about i paly the better game ... this smells in mmo comunities the most.

Huh i play now on Fury PVP server, and population in here seems to be healthy..

When i do some quests here a lot of ppl going through these locations around lvl 40 ....

I was only afraid of "AoC is dead" like a lot of ppl said. But i started in AoC a few days ago and im realy nicely surprised. In a low lvl locations its full of low lvl players. A lot, it seems, are realy new playes, because lot of them havent guild tag. I take a chance to this game as lately as now, because a lot of friends said me about pros / cons of this game in past. Now it seems to be much much better and yes, combat system looks to be verry interesting. And technicaly stage of game looks good too. I havent problems with FPS / Ping, not lags. All servers seems to be on medium population.

Yes i do and i like it.

Many times before, i didnt, on my old computer, where all MB of ram was so much for me.

But since a lot of my friends started to use it, me too.

It has a good screenshot and video making, with autohosting system, now in beta live gameplay streaming function and verry good Voice chat, good usable when is my ventrilo server offline, or some other reasons.

The other good reason is, when my friend plays something, i can speak with him, write to him and he dont want to jump from game on desktop.

Yes, for many gamers it can looks like something unusable, but when u one time start it, u have it and u use it.

And the last good is, it have a fully compatible MSN plugin now, and i hope, ICQ, and other protocols will be usable soon.

The last thing is, i know a lot of MMO players who have X-fire and the truth is a lot of MMO players plays some FPS too :)

Cant recruit someone into it, but only can describe pros for me.

Thats all.