thanks garret

you have any more? joshwhiltz@hotmail.com  thanks

i think its a bad move to make death knights available to both alliance and horde.. i thought the alliance are the good guys.. worse than making pally and shaman available to both.. it detracted from the uniqueness off the different sides.. they should do one for each horde and alliance.. or better yet one for each race.. and im sure its gonna involve a ton of faction grinding or fun stuff like that.. oh and unless tthey want everyone to be playing death knights i think they will have to make it as hard to unlock as it is to get the orange(legendary?) weapons.. which wouldnt be a bad idea.. well at least for those of us that dont want everything hadded out on a silver platter

Originally posted by namelessbob

 

Originally posted by Aguy

My prediction is that this expansion will suck big time (as it seems quite rushed) and could mark the beginning of the slow, slow loss of subbers.

 

They won't lose subs. Their current tactic is when they lose subs in one area they open up the game in another. Just look at their newly listed 9mil number. Notice how they opened up to china (the worlds largest population) and it only went up 500k? It went up probly around 2mil, but they didn't record the loss of the other areas leaving the game.

 

Hopefully the new expansion will do something innovative since they have yet to do that with this game.

they didnt just open up to china, they did that quite a while ago.. and it didnt go up 3 mill, its closer to 5 mill.. and it was back when subs were at like 5 or 6 million.. but yo uare still right.. i think subs are dropping in NA/EU, but they are going up enough in asia that the total keeps rising.. too bad they hardly make any money off them..

Originally posted by tunabun

 

Originally posted by bahamut1

To a degree. It's already been proven that if AI is allowed to do anything it wants, it will ALWAYS win.

Proven? Mind Sourcing, rofl.

That is why it is so hard to program AI in this game.

You think dumbing the AI down is the problem?  We play the same games?

A mob controlled by a program is MUCH faster than any human reflex and it wouldn't be challenging any more. It would just be an excercise in frustration.

Being faster doesn't mean more accurate or strategic, you must not be very good at games if you get "frustrated" by AI. 

This is why bots are outlawed in most games, including FPS, because they give such an unfair advantage. They never miss, and can move strategically without error.

Bots are outlawed in MMORPG's because they allow players to level their chars while AFK, I've never met someone that uses their bot to "win" in PvP.  Never heard of FPS "botting", macroing yes, hacking yes, botting no...  Maybe clarify your definition of botting.

 

I have only played one game in which I cannot defeat the higher levels of AI encountered, and that is Chess.  As Chess AI is purely computing variable avenues of choice within a set rule structure the AI can beat me.  In an open field however, with a multitude of variables and a flexible rule structure it will be at the very least decades and more likely centuries before we need to worry about AI defeating player intelligence.

 

 

 

You want proof that comps make calculations faster than us? seriously? you dont think that in any fps the devs couldnt make the AI smart enough to shoot you in the head every time? and he says nothign about dumbing down AI, its about balance.. you know, make it so they dont hit you every time. Really though, if you dont think the Devs for any video game could make mobs that would be too hard, and not just hp or damage output based, then you need to take some lessons in computer programming. the reason you dont run into AI that you cant beat, is because if they made it that way, no one would play

Originally posted by Entreri28

 

I've never heard of any game with AI like that.  Every game I have played higher difficulty doesn't mean better AI it only means more damage/HP for the enemy.  Not talking about AI that has 100% accuracy or something I think he means AI that is actually strategic and makes you think and not do the same thing over and over.

 

Anyway, I think if a player is naturally talented that should be an advantage.  If a someone who has played 2 years and never learns from their mistakes (like most players) they should not have an advantage over someone who has been playing a week but, really paying attention and learning what they did wrong.  This is how FPS and RTS are and that is why being good in those actually counts for something in the game.  MMORPG's will always be seen as games for people who suck at gaming by other gamers until the games become this way.  Time will mean more skill for the people who learn from their mistakes though so a newb who is awesome still will have a very difficult time beating a skilled veteran.

say mmorpg players "suck" all you want, the genre was created to satisfy an interest in strategy, and character development, not mindless button mashing. Ive always thought rpgs and mmorpgs were for people who dont suck at video games, but have an intellect that requires some stimulation..maybe thats just something that happens with age..  MMO's will never get to the point where reflex is the most important aspect, they wont be mmorpgs anymore if they are

Originally posted by Raunu

 

 

I'm just waiting for the day when games have AI that evolves on its own. The AI trying to learn what the player is doing and trying to counter that. Then we will really have some challenging games.

man, that sounds an awful lot like "The Terminator" to me.. or, has anyone seen that ep of Star Trek: TNG when they make a Holographic Moriarty that takes over the ship? because they ask for a smarter AI...

Originally posted by Xicus

Is WoW doomed you ask my answer is YES! and good riddence i have 1 point to make about it.

Point 1:They have trials out and you have to buy them which is completely usless in most ways considering the fact that the full client or whatever is also being sold i mean wtf is the point in selling the trial and the full client thingy and they also have a free trial that you can download wtf is the point in that if you wanna try it out download the bloody trial otherwise your wasting your money.

Oh well this game will meet it's soon enough.

 

man thats a brutal sentence

thats a really bad question... i think you should re-word it to get your message across better.. every game is doomed.. its jsut a question of when.. maybe a better question would be " Do you see WoW losing the top spot in the next year" or something similar.. i personally think it will soon start to drop sub numbers in the NA/EU market.. we tend to want the newest, best of everything... games tend to last a bit longer in asia.. look how long lineage was around.. adn theres actually a starcraft channel in Korea.. well not just SC but 90% of the time.. now how still plays games that dated in the West? definitely not the majority.. but yeah, 1.5-2 years from now WoW wont be on top.. maybe not worldwide, but definitely in the West.

Originally posted by SWGLover

 

Originally posted by CapnSwallows

This is the most retarded thread ever!! Why would the consumer ask for the price to be higher ya freaking troll!?

 

 

Why? Well for one thing, a higher price woukld likely keep more kids out. And that'd be a good thing.  

I wouldn't mind pay $30 per month if it keep out most of the younger players.

it would keep out most of the older players too.. and do you really think those kids whos parents buy them beamers are gonna say no to the extra few dollars? besides, just because there are less minors doesnt mean there would be less morons.. there is no age limit for stupid.. and besides, im 28, i used to play FFXI, and my 2 best in game friends were 43, and 15. 2 of the best people ive ever met (in game)... oh and as far as  people whos age ive actually known, more idiots fall in the 18-25 group than any other

or there is always the arguement of " there wil lbe an endgame.. someday..."  hahah.. now thats a promise

Originally posted by solareus

 

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Sorry, but this thread is either a Troll attempt, or the OP really has no clue what end game is.

The players at 50 are at the end game as it currently stands. They are at the end of all content, and advancement available, thats called the end game. When they add more, there will be a sliver of content to advance, then you're at end game again untill they update again.

Pretty desperate attempt to rationalize the complete lack of anything to do at lvl 50 IMO. Yeah, its a Troll post, no doubt about it. Is there more game after 50? No. "But in 2 years, they may or may not add content!!1, so you aren't at end game if you use your imagination to have wonderfull adventures!1"

Or go read the latest Harry Potter book, when your done, you're not at the end of the book, because theoretically, she may write another one day!

Another Here Say poster, riding the wind of the other Her Say posters who don't play the game and have not reached level 50. And yes dude, if you reached the end game already you shouldn't of played the game to begin with. Also ...

 

Soe Sucks, will suck and never be the pinnicale of gaming , ever .

Is that the best you can do? "Show me that you're at endgame"? wow this game is impressive.. when thats the best anyone can argue..

drop $100 bucks on a halfl ass vid card.. you should be able to get one thats good enough by now eh? ah i havent bought one in 2-3 years

6 months is not a long delay.. talk to the guys on the darkfall forums if ya want to hear about a delay

Originally posted by Orca

 

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Originally posted by Rinic
Am I the only one wondering what the middle-east people do when they're on the internet? Because if this is true, apparently zero of them play MMORPGs.

{Lie.}

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They tried to kill people with WMD's... But soon they found out people came alive again after periods of time.

So they stopped.

Oh, am i saying all middle-eastern societies are terroist, is that what im saying? Yes.

OP: You didnt elaborate.

The middle east is in asia, genius, and if thats sarcasm, sarcasm doesnt carry very well in print, especially when its incredibly off topic, and rasict. and besides, of all the middle easterners ive met, not a single one has a WMD, or is a terrorist.. and besides, im sure US has killed more civilians there than they have in the US.. so whos the real threat?

Originally posted by Krogan

AoC is of course a much inferior game design then Darkfall, which I am sure we all agree on. If Darkfall delivers AoC might as never have gone into production. I am sure they are aware of this and scared shitless. Btw the 40k+ that follow Darkfall everyday is more people then are actually playing Vanguard. Also I have around 10 friends that will join me in Darkfall if it's good, they are just not believers like me. More gamers then you might think dream of Darkfall or a game like it and I have no doubts that it will see 500k players within the first year if it delivers.

Originally posted by blightedsoul

ACtually, if you look on the E3 website, Darkfall did indeed show up, i wish they hadnt, I perfer that they keep the game out of mainstream so retards do not flood it, but none the less, they showed up

Seriously guys, what are the top 5 most sucessful MMORPGs to be released by indie devs with no experience and no big money publisher? look to that for your chances of sucess.

Originally posted by Xris375

If this game comes out - it's going to sell itself. No advertising necessary.

 

you cant just make up a marketing strategy like that.. especially one that consists of "we wont do anything".. they will have to get the word out, or itll flop.. ya cant rely on word of mouth when games are costing as much as they do these days.. but if they keep going the way they are, everyone that was half interested  will forget, or move on

Originally posted by iduums

you have it backwards.  It's because Warcraft looks like Warhammer.

no. warhammer looks like a bunch of toys on a table. WoW looks nothing like that.

Originally posted by miataka

 

Originally posted by Eatten

i would keep it the same as it is now i would not want all these pre-cu people in my games after all the crying and trash talking that have been doing about my company

Can you please go back to your current section. its totally uncalled for to come in here and tell us how much you hate us as people. We did nothing to you. Unless your a sony stock holder in which case... you can rot

 

Flame baiting and trying to start a fight is actually not allowed.

 

Than you very much and have a good day

nice post ^^

old republic would be nice.. or after the 6 movies, but of course LA would have to commit to never making another movie during the period.. but on the SWG note, i never understood what was wrong with it being impossible hard to access the jedi class.. it kept everyone from being a jedi didnt it? I always like skills better than levels, but it is LA we are talking about, and it will be a money grab more so than trying to make a quality product.. maybe its for the best to just let it go? say goodbye to the idea?