Originally posted by Novusod
Gold farming is illegal like ripping a tag off of a pillow is illegal. Really nobody cares.

Gold Farming isn't illegal. ToS are NOT binding legal contracts. You CANNOT get punished by criminal law by selling, buying, or farming gold. There is a large difference between civil and criminal cases, and ToS are not even completely binding in civil cases.

In other words, you can wipe your butt with the ToS. It's not the same as an actual law which a government will punish you if broken.

Originally posted by cichy1012
WoW

Yea, I agree, WoW is the better choice.

Was really looking forward to GW2. Unfortunate that it still can't compete with a game already many years old.

Originally posted by Roin

DAOC was a highly position, counter-attack, state-driven, strategy, pvp/RvR driven experience.

^ THIS many times over.  Nothing has really come close to DAOC in terms of combat, except maybe AC. (But in a slightly different way)  Playing a melee class in DAOC was for me beyond words for how much fun it was.

This. Hands down.

I will never forget the fun of being an Albion Saracen Mercenary.

Just because you fail to see a conclusion you can pull from this survey doesn't mean there isn't a reason the survey is short.

I can easily see several conclusions that can result from this survey, which can readily help someone complete their master's thesis.

Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it needs to be fixed.

So many know-it-alls who think they know better than other people and thus need to give them advice.

Originally posted by Elikal

Haha. No. Not really.

I won't say people are dumb or sheep. But most people are fundamentally very unsure of their own judgement and most afraid not to be with the masses. Being the outsider is a deep fear for many people, so they tend to follow the trend and not trust what they may be able to see, but ignore and go with the flow. It is also very strenous to question your own believes and habits of thinking. Too many prefer just to "fit in".

To quote our most famous German Chancellor: "How fortunate for leaders that people don't think." and "People will more fall to a big lie than a small one."

This.

Very few MMORPG's are balanced, especially at release.

Then you have the entire argument of

1) Rock Paypa Scissors Bro! - The argument that it's not suppose to be balanced, as some classes are SUPPOSE to beat other classes. These people typically fail to realize that the game is unabalanced to the point where Rock crushes through four sheets of paper coated rocks to rape scissors.

2) Player Skill v. Character Skill- The argument of what is real skill in MMORPG's? Is player skill (reflexes, coordination, strategy, tactics, knowledge, gameplay experience) superior, or is it more important to have character skill (overpowered class, overpowered build, higher level, better gear, twinks, min/max exploitation of mechanics/character setups not intended to be as powerful as they are and later nerfed in a patch).

I'd say that WoW is balanced enough in Argument #2 to where I, as a great player, can take a partially twinked character and gimped class and wipe the floor with a twinked out character playing an OP class.

In GW2? Not really the case. I never met a single Warrior that could beat my builds, but that's because I was rolling exploitative game mechanics. I min/maxed the metagame to realize the power of being a tank, exploited overpowered abilities like Frenzy and Fear Me, and was next to impossible to kill while doing more damage than most players. Only players that could beat me in a duel were even MORE overpowered mesmers or bunker guardians, and I could beat them if I switched over to MY overpowered Mesmer.

What people fail to realize is a lot that is complained about is overpowered, but beatable. Unfortunately, it's irrelevant if it's beatable or not. It's still overpowered. I roll in such a way to roflstomp any other player, no matter how good they think they are. The only ones that can beat me are people more overpowered. I know it's not because they're better, because I can switch over to the same overpowered mechanics and faceroll them with more health than they had vs. my less OP build.

When you can hop on a Mesmer OP build and faceroll everyone, and then hop on to a Warrior OP build and faceroll everyone except people using that Mesmer OP build. Well...it's obviously not you as a player.

Actually, GW2, like most MMORPG's, rewards overpowered character builds, higher levels, better gear, more play experience (not player skill experience, but knowledge about the metagame), and other non-player-skill based topics that are mostly contrived from CHARACTER skill.

If you don't believe me, then have a pro tournament winner play the default class setup and build, while a mediocre player (competant enough to play his own class well) play an overpowered tourny build.

I promise you, the pro will lose every time. Perhaps if the OP build was a newb, he'd win. Unfortunately, I said mediocre competant player, not a total newb.

Mediocre Competant Player + OP build > Best Player + Gimp Build (any build but a select few OP builds)

Originally posted by Simphanatic

Originally posted by Disatisfied9

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Wow, you were able to derive all that from this:

"The most valuable member of any guild is always named Google, he's also the least used member, especially by the takers."

Please show me where I ever indicated I'd told someone to "Google it?" Please.

I won't tary off the subject of this thread further by trying to parse that sentence for you.

Do have a very pleasant day and please continue to enjoy your internet expience.

In his defense, he said he hated "people like you, who tell others to "Google it" (paraphrase), not you specifically.

In fact, if you gave links to actual websites, he applauded you.

That's what I got from it anyway. I like to read people's posts for what they are, instead of assuming all sorts of things from absolutely nothing.

I requested a full refund yesterday (and already got it) thanks to Anet's great customer service. I didn't even have to provide my reason, but got it anyway.

I was disappointed with the game, due to balance issues in PvP. I read a thread earlier about the fact GW2 is very unfriendly towards small groups, and I have to agree. That is as well a reason I got a full refund. I was unable to play with my friends due to an inability to group queue in sPvP and the impossibility of winning tPvP with only 2-3 players. This is unfortunate, as I enjoyed GW2's combat and classes. I thought they did great.

Now I'm back to playing WoW, as the PvP is extremely well balanced compared to GW2, far more casual friendly, group friendly, arenas for small groups as well as full groups, but most of all it's just plain better made and more polished. (Obviously, as GW2 doesn't have 10 million subscribers, lol).

One of Human's greatest achievements is our mind, our soul, our brain, our thoughts-- the ability to think in abstract terms, use our imagination to create hypothetical situations in our mind, and think for ourselves.

Yet...do people ACTUALLY think for themselves?

Even the swarms of angsty pre-teens (so-called "Free Thinkers" found online) don't seem to think for themselves, and instead regurgitate what they hear others say. It is not uncommon to hear pre-teens of any topic or stance simply repeat what they hear others say, contrary to their adult counterparts (the adults who actually probably DO think for themselves). In fact, most regurgitation doesn't even seem to be the best of the best, and instead just seem to be from someone who often has many things incorrect or has a different perspective than most other adults or professionals.

Ex, A teen in defense of their faith quoting a teacher whose research or thought processes aren't as well versed or popularly accepted like a "better" teacher or speaker. Ex2. A teen in defense of their non-faith whose arguments are riddled with ignorance of the faith they're trying to attack, when another adult has better arguments that are more educated in the opposition's beliefs. Yet the teen doesnt use this "another adult" with better arguments, and regurgitates the weaker arguments because they're spoken most often.

Ex. A college yuppy know-it-all freshman who regurgitates what they read in a [Class] 101 textbook. Or perhaps later spouting off how they hate [popular historical figure] and instead appreciate the art of [unpopular historical figure] and [rarely heard of historical figure]. When in reality, [popular] actually  IS really good at art, and [unpopular] and [rarely heard] actually suck, which is mostly why they're unheard of. Trendy trends to be trendy.

Do YOU believe that MOST people think for themselves? Do YOU believe that very FEW do? Do YOU believe that EVERYONE does? If so, how do you explain ignorance, regurgitation, mindless mob behavior? Does it exist? Perhaps mob mentality is actually a false perception, or more correctly a confusion of stereotypes from a vocal minority? Explain yourself!

If Human beings truly have their own mind, why do so few think for themselves?

Question #1: I noticed, especially on the internet, the majority of people will voice their opinion as fact, even when they have no experience or knowledge on the subject. Why do they do this?

My Answer to #1: Do people actually think they know what they are talking about? Does the toneless sarcasticless space of the Internet only make it SEEM like they're stating it as fact? Do people think reading something on the internet makes it true?

Question #2: On another topic, why do people say irrational things that are contrary to basic logic that most people agree upon? (Ex. "Just because you write in Word a game design, doesn't make you a game designer.") By very definiton and logic, this quote is entirely irrational and incorrect. Doodling in Word, designing a game or game features, would very much so make someone a game designer.

My Answer to #2: Is it because people don't understand the use of adjectives? "Experienced Designer, Amateur Designer, Poorly Designed, Inexperienced Designer, etc. etc." Do people get angry when others are given or have self-proclaimed titles, even when true? Do people get upset because it's misleading and fail to realize they're being misled by their own ignorant (of adjectives) assumptions?

Question #3: What makes people believe misinformation? Whether it is FOX NEWS spewing lies to their redneck viewers, or internet rumors or historical myths that are believed to be true (such as people thinking the earth was flat, and Columbus believing contrary)-- why do people believe these things?

My Answer to #3: Is it because these people don't understand or never learned how to properly research something or think rationally on the subject? I was taught in grade school that Columbus thought the Earth was round, and everyone else at the time didn't. This was never true, but it's still taught in many of our schools BY history teachers. Yet when I first thought about it, my rational processes and basic logic concluded that most people probably thought it was round, since the beginning of time. Upon doing ACTUAL research, I find my logic to actually become true. Most people DIDN'T think the Earth was flat. What I learned in grade school was a lie. Yet most people dont ever seem to question their logic or challenge what they've learned.

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by LeegOfChldrn

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Loktofeit

So, you agree that I'm an Architectural Engineer. Thanks! I don't think other Architectural Engineers will agree, but I value your input more. Cheers!

That's nothing, I just graduated the Hannibal Lector School of Brain Surgery.  Hop on the table, please?

Even the greatest of surgeries couldn't fix Loktofeit's brain. Arrogance and blindness lie in the heart, not the brain! We need a heart surgeon...and preferably one that doesnt eat him.

Oh, you're both flexing your condescension muscles, and doing that calling each other poopoohead thing.

Sorry we tried to derail it into something less toxic.  Carry on.

That's merely your opinion that we're both being condescending. In reality Loktofeilt is ragging on people who technically ARE game designers or game developers, simply because they aren't funded by multi-million dollar budgets or have tons of experience in the field.

It isn't condescending to defend someone from a user who is consistently wrong and irrational.

What part of game design requires someone to do more than design in relation to gaming? Exactly. He is wrong, and should be shunned for it. SHUNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by zymurgeist

So people who invest their own time and money feel less pressure if a part of the money isn't theirs?

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Of course, they don't feel the same pressure.

That is what whole Kickstarter is about. You do not think much about throwing 5USD donation but you would think hell a lot if you had to donate 10k USD.

And that is what Kickstarter and projects on there rely on - people not thinking too much about their money...

 I'm the most cynical curmudgeon I know but that far surpasses anything I could imagine. It would be a poorer world indeed if everyone felt that way.

In my experience when people are trusted they will usually step up to try and justify that trust. The ones that won't are pretty obvious about it.

People definitely feel responsibility when part of the money isn't theres and they're held to a social obligation to finish their work or spend the money properly.

Unless the team's original goal was to scam people and take their money for their own use, then the people ARE obligated to act appropriately and DO feel responsibility. Whether or not that act on those feelings is more or less their reality, but you are certainly right-- they do try to justify the trust.

IT IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Heinz130

Is there a way to use just a key like "E" or "R" to use a skill,and not have to keep "Ctrl" or "Alt" preesed?

I'm pretty sure in the majority of games, all keybindings can be altered to anything you want.

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Loktofeit

So, you agree that I'm an Architectural Engineer. Thanks! I don't think other Architectural Engineers will agree, but I value your input more. Cheers!

That's nothing, I just graduated the Hannibal Lector School of Brain Surgery.  Hop on the table, please?

Even the greatest of surgeries couldn't fix Loktofeit's brain. Arrogance and blindness lie in the heart, not the brain! We need a heart surgeon...and preferably one that doesnt eat him.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by LeegOfChldrn

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by AticusWelles

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by AdamTM

We certainly get a lot of devs these days on the forums answering general MMORPG.com banter.

It's because the definition of a Dev is now as obscure as the definition of an MMO these days lol.

Not really.  The definition is still the same, it's just that the barrier to entry is lower now.  The gatekeepers are no longer able to keep people from jumping over the fence, in part, thanks to Kickstarter and it's equivalants.

It's neither. It's that there are a lot of posters who think that because they scribbled something in Word and called it a Design Document they are now a 'Game Designer' or 'Game Developer'. It's an amazing level of arrogance. I played Minecraft a lot, so I probably should start calling myself an Architectural Engineer.

 

If you design something, I'm pretty sure that makes you a designer, by its very definition.

If you develop a game, that makes you a game developer. It's kindof in its very definiton as well.

 

Perhaps you're confused and don't understand the use of adjectives? "Expert Game Designer" or "Amateur Game Developer."

To be a Game Designer, you need only to design something related to gaming. To be a Game Developer, you need to develop some type of game.

 

Despite what your arrogance wants you to believe, scribbles in Word called a Design Document DOES make them a Game Designer. I'm amazed at the level of arrogance you have to think otherwise.

Once you familiarize yourself with the purpose of Adjectives, perhaps by attending an English 101 course at your local community college, then you will understand it would only be arrogant to call one's self an "Expert Game Developer" or "Experienced Game Designer" or Arrogant Adjective + Correct Noun.

 

TLDR: Herp Derp once again you're wrong, and it is YOU who is arrogant, thinking little of others who are actually correct.

So, you agree that I'm an Architectural Engineer. Thanks! I don't think other Architectural Engineers will agree, but I value your input more. Cheers!

Horrible comparison, as always, since they actually have schools for Architectural Engineering, counselrs and board members who license people.

Contrary to your belief, they do not have a Game Design Board at prestigious univeristies who dictate who is licensed as a designer.

You are also mixing Science and Art. Also yes, if you engineer architecture, then that makes you an architectural engineer. Are you a licensed or qualified one? Those are adjectives, once again! However, you have to look into the definition. To design something, you need only dribble on paper. To actually build it, is something else. If Architectural Designer is different from Architectural Engineer, then perhaps you're only a designer.

If you were to add an appropriate ADJECTIVE to your "Architectural Engineer" then yes, most will agree. You do not have to be licensed or qualified to be a "Unskilled Architectural Engineer" or "Amateur Architectural Engineer".

TLDR: Architecture and Game Development aren't the same things, despite how you're so arrogant you think they are. Changing the subject only brings more herp to your derp.

TLDR 2: Adjectives seem to give you a lot of trouble.

And I feel fine.