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MMO mesiah

Rather than a bubble, I see the mmo industry as a tree. With its roots in tabletop games, adventure games, muds, and the like, and coming together in a few, very strong titles that created the main direction of the genre, but eventually branching out into smaller, more flexible and sustainable games that go in various other directions. Some of those branches don't survive, either for natural reasons or due to intentional actions. Over time, new branches take their place.

Lots of games have closed. Many more are about to launch or are in developement. It's normal and healthy.

Part if its design, part of it's players. But its odd that you say smaller size and less difficulty make people dislike raiding, as they make raiding more accessible And less of a chore to organize. Those two points are more the complaints of someone who already likes raiding than the pov of someone who'd rather not.
Paying for convenience is the cornerstone of today's consumer experience.
Originally posted by maplestone

It's completely corrosive. The game ceases to be a game and decays towards simply being an advertising medium for microtransactions.


That's really melodramatic. A game is still a game. Microtransactions don't change that anymore than subs do (because if you haven't noticed companies pushing people to get friends to sub or to increase the length of their sub then you haven't been paying attention) ~ pretty much all games, both video games and irl, have their share of advertising being pushed on the public. But they're still games :/ 

Originally posted by Creslin321

Even fairly innocuous cash shops like purely cosmetic ones can take the fun out of working to achieve your gear, since you can just buy it instead.

Purely cosmetic gear doesnt have stats. So you'd still get the fun of working to achieve the real gear that turns you into a badass or w/e. 

But as far as your horizontal model goes? Players who don't like cash shops still wouldn't like cash shops. There's people complaining over GW2 "only" offering 5 default character slots and making player pay for more like its a heinous and unreasonable act. LoL heroes have a pokemon appeal, but real mmorpg characters and classes don't have that at all. You aren't picking just which hero you're going to play for this next game, you're picking a character that represents you in a persistant world for the next few weeks/months/or if you really like it: years. Not to mention the people who are unsure about what class they want to play, what if they decide midway that they don't like their class? Do they have to buy another slot or lose all their progress with this character? What if they don't really like the next class? If the player keeps finding situations full of lose/lose choices and buyer's remorse, how long are they going to stick with a game? 

Honestly? I really doubt there is any one-size-fits-all payment model that will suit every game and gamer, and so "best" is purely subjective and is only accurate on the individual level.

"Revenues were down 12% from last year to $130 million, of which a vast majority came from NCsoft's online titles. The company stated that it dipped into the red due to rising labor costs, an increased marketing budget for Blade & Soul's Korean launch, and the acquisition of NtreevAion was also blamed for the company's financial woes, as revenues in that title sharply decreased due to fewer microtransaction sales."


Yeah, I can't see that as a significant indicator of the F2P model's success or failure. It's just another tick on the list, and for a game that's been hurting for awhile and is facing firm competition this year. Would making the game better and keeping the sub model have placed Aion in a better position right now? Probably not. MMO players are often unforgiving of failed first impressions and constantly looking for the next best thing.

Having all my friends playing the same game. 

Most of us all play and write in a forum RP together ~ but video games are not so much anymore.

One reason I'm looking forward to GW2 is because a lot of them are interested in playing it.

Read the full AMA ~ and it's nice to see a lot of the complaints you see floating around the forums here, be aknowledged and discussed without him making unrealistic claims and promises. 
Some people feel the reliability of having a specific role is either unexciting, or just not worth waiting around/twisting arms to make sure those roles are filled.
Oh well now I'm curious about Starbound!

- GW2
- Blade and Soul
- Wildstar
- Rift: Storm Legion expansion

- TSW is already out, but it looked and played awful on my current computer, so I look forward to trying it again once I can afford better.
If your themepark attention span is only about 10 minutes, then at least you don't have to pay any money for them since free trials will satisfy any curiousity pretty quickly for you.

Single player console games run $60 ~ so it's not like pricetag is anything new.
I actually really like the premise of TSW and hope it does well, if only to inspire more MMOs in the urban horror and consipiracy genre. However...that 9.5 on aesthetics, particularly without any screencaps to show it merits that near-perfect score calls the rest of the scoring into question. I have actually seen some really nice screens of TSW, but the majority that are floating around, including the ones with this article, are sadly bland and honestly look dated. 
I'm less interested in their launch success, and more interested on where they are 6 months down the road with subs/gem store. I'll be playing GW2 ~ but not MoP (not because I think badly of the expansion, but because I prefer Rift anyway and intend to keep it as my subscription-based game)
Because haters gonna hate.
Barbie's playhouse can be plenty hardcore depending on date and model and the context in which it's used. You really should define hardcore, because all games do have hardcore aspects to them. None of the games listed have harsh player penalties like permadeath, so the most obvious mark of "hardcore" isn't there. I mean you could call Tera the most "hardcore" purely based on some of the armour sets in it. 

:Ia Subs are a forced commitment, which is something that can't stand up to the increased options available that don't force a monetary commitment from players. I really don't think it's about "value" or how much you'll pay in the long run, but about being given that choice to pay.  

To give you a slightly different perspective on it, subscriptions are on "rails." The amount you pay is determined by the publisher, what you get for your money is determined by the devs and publisher. There is no freedom in this payment model, your choices are made for you, you either abide by them or don't play. 

Can F2P cost you more? Yes. 

Can it include underhanded tactics to encourage players to pay more? Yes.

Anyone who has played a F2P mmo knows this. You aren't bringing anything new to the table by pointing these things out.

But F2P also offers choices in how, when, why, and if they want to spend that money. And those choices make the payment model extremely appealing, and are why F2P is currently gaining more and more strength.

My solution?

Find a sub mmo and support if you feel that strongly about this. Otherwise, learn to adapt, because soapboxing on a forum isn't going to change this.


:Ia Pretty sure theyre targetting any mmo player, along with those who don't play mmos. At the moment though, the only specifically marketed to playerbase has been that of GW1, and even then they aren't really catering much to that section, game-wise, with the exception of HoM (which also markets GW1 to those interested in GW2) and name saves.

OP, every few days a thread like this is made. You're not the only person. I don't agree, and feel that unconstructive negativity is only going to ruin your enjoyment of games further, but you're definitely not alone.

I'll definitely be playing GW2 as my main ~ but also look forward to Blade and Soul for its action and shameless fanservice ~ 

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