Trending Games | Skyforge | World of Warcraft | Guild Wars 2 | Shards

    Facebook Twitter YouTube
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:3,032,317 Users Online:0
Games:843  Posts:6,484,302
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Armored Warfare Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Bionic Marine Command Online Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blackguards 2 Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodborne Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chroma Squad Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Heart Online Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dying Light Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthlock: Festival of Magic Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Fable Legends Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Hand of Fate Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Immune Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Necropolis Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Nova Genesis Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Chronicles Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Coast Legends Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Trapped Dead: Lockdown Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utherous Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik Discussion Forums

All Posts by Xstatic912

All Posts by Xstatic912

19 Pages First « 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 » Last
365 posts found
@ n00bit

You said it best, also for me its a hold over..

See I think TSW had to release this early when you got the 2 big guns later this year (mists and Gw2)..

Heck to even, get the wow fans more excited blizz are debuting the mists cinematic a week before Gw2 launches..

I just can't see much replayability in the TSW, and there AP system is kinda to blame.
Ok but its the same problem we see with console games.. There's hardly any thing driving the industry..

Truly innovative ideas gets tossed aside by crappy sales numbers.. Skyrim hardly does anything new, but its been the most accessible elder scrolls to date, as it got new persons to play it... Fps, I don't need to say..

I love wow, and to this day I play it like 3 times a week, is it the best no, but to this day i've haven't played a mmo that's more fun in the long run, despite the changes that have been done over the yrs..
There was once a small space mmo by the name earth & beyond, which I thought was awesome, next I know Ea came in bought the studio and close down the game..

The point is mmos will always copy some feature from past success, and the thing is none of them wants to be too different because of the money involve to make it..

I think if a dev made a mmo and say to themselves we are catering to a specific target audience and generally don't need a high sub count to stay open, then there is where the most innovation will come from.

If new mmo being developed are gunning for "Wow like" sub numbers, that the wrong approach.. Even blizz have stated they didn't expect wow to be that big.. The right mindset to have is, what can I do different but not be too weird, but fun over the long run.. You also need very polish product at release because most mmo players nowadays are also console player and they are use to polish releases..

later down TSW will be looked at as a game that tried "somethings" differently but wasn't executed right or didn't get enough polish..

Its not one of my top 5, but I can give credit where its due. It does have some cool concept (investigative mission), fooling person into thinking its not item based (your Q level item, is just a fancy way of saying item level).. Crafting is ok but drop rates outside instances are too low to get persons use to it.. 3 faction pvp seems to be coming the norm so that I guess is ok..

The trinity system should be done with, or if your gonna use it, put in a LFG tool with cross realm queuing or let there be npc bots you can hire outside the instance so as to make up if now tank or healer wanna join..

You know, one feature I would love to see in an mmo.. auto scaling on almost everything, eg.. if a lv 50 is asking for group and no one wants to group, what if that level 50 invites a level 10, then that level 10 would be now able to do the run with the level 50, the drops would be lv 50 but level 10 can save them if he desires.. And if the level 10 needs help the lv 50 has a choice to either scale down to his level or stay @ 50 and one shot stuff for the level 10 without a lost to Xp for the level 10... That would encourage grouping across all level..
@ TalonSin

You know I said the samething when I started to play..

will person still be playing as they do now.. Maybe then a LFG tool will be implemented, because we all know the short comings of the "trinity system", it just doesn't hold up well in the long run without a LFG feature involve..

They give you a freedom of choice but what if in that choice, hardly anyone wants to heal or tank...
@ fredomSekerZ

I can say the same about sandbox mmo.. You have to find the right balance between the 2 styles..

Dev will never please everyone, and there will be short coming which each style.. Some will say TSW left out some simple features etc..

Its a matter of opinion really but the claim of best ever.... Nope just nope
Not even close to best, but its good
A bit off topic...

Wow dev's just care about sustaining the number of sub they have going now.. I'm sure by now they realize it has peaked.. If you were a past wow player and quit and then turn around and buy mists expansion.. Blizz would have half succeeded, because it shows you still love there products, but maybe this wasn't for you..

I love wow and won't stop playing, just because a new shiny product without substance comes along.. I'll also support other games that peak my interest and if that game can keep me entertained, I'll play it long also..

some players tend to treat games way too personal and some are easily influence by other on what to like and play..
Do person really except a game base solely on getting the best loot to have end game progression... Hmmm
Ok guild wars 2 had the potential to sell between 2-4 mil before the year is out, but can they do it... Sure but they need good marketing.. I remember seeing D3 commercial on theater screen and I was like thats reaching audience right there..

Will NCsoft push Gw2 like that, maybe.. See they will look at it and say most from the first guild wars will make the transition over, that alone is more than a mil in box sales..

Mists on the other hand, forget it.. Its blizz we are talking about here.. They go to ends to let person know of there product.. I don't think they will break D3 sale speed record, but they will move around 2mil + in 3 days or less... Its just amazing how big and faithful blizz fans are.. You would think pc gaming is profitable for most dev's...
This launch went smooth because of a few factors..

Compare to other Mmo games this wasn't all that hyped so servers weren't que over..

Guild wars 2 beta weekends are more full than this (not bashing the game or anything).. I can say no matter what arenanet do there launch will have problems on the popular servers..

pvp, when it isn't laggy its fun to play, but like any game where you got more than 50 person on screen, casting spells etc.. I expect a performance hit if some sort..
The game does have it shortcoming as all games do... I don't expect a mmo to have the best graphic, if they strive for that most person can't run it to truly appreciate the beauty.. Second, combat animation can be overlook but when you have a game where combat is mostly part of it, then the dev's owe it to themselves to let the animation run and look exciting...

With that said the TSW tries to be different and as such may get burnt for it in the long run..

If anyone is thinking this game won't go F2P, is fooling themselves.. You think Funcom hasn't learn there lesson after AoC numbers fall off after certain months...

like eve online, I hope they can survive on a small amount of sub...

Because truth be told the masses don't want too much different, they want what worked before, wrapped differently but without the aggravation of what happen in the past..
F2P can be done right.. the F2P option in champ online isn't bad.. Guild wars 2 has a nice option..

The whole idea is to find the right balance between what to offer as free and paid..

I love the cash shop in guild wars 2 and champions online... The one in star trek online I feel cheated, even though I have life time sub..
The whole idea is to give you a taste and hope that taste is enough to get you to pay for at least one month.. And in doing so, see the major difference between pay and free.. Lol it might work on some person
@ thedarkess

Well said bro... Couldn't have said it any better... Too much companies that area making mmo now, what I see in there approach is this, launch with the basic feature set, and if the need arises later on we fix it... But you see by the time they come around to fix it, some have already quit and it seems the dev's then go to scramble mode to patch simple stuff, when that energy could be using else where and progress the game..

They typically claim a mmo launch window is 3-6 months, but that claim doesn't hold true to todays mmo players, there is much more stuff wanting our time than back in the early mmo era, that if a mmo isn't shipping with certain norm feature and dev's are gonna use that so called launch period to fix stuff, that can doom your product.. Back them most of use was willing to play through bug ridden mmo and wait for patches, not now.. I must applaud arenanet for taking there time to craft a fun game, that tries to innovate on some front and polish the rest...
Another quality F2P game.. talk about choices
@ Sameer1979

true, but will it keep enough subs to stay p2p, I feel TSW appeals to a niche market and as such it shouldn't need a high sub count to stay open..

If it goes F2P, I don't expecT person who try it to stay long either, because this game takes a bit of thinking on sum quests and its style might not appeal to the masses.

Not a bad summary, but i see this running into the same problem with as past "Trinity" based  games...


Person will get frustrated of LFG, and will find it a hassel becuase depending on the time you play that determines how quick you get a group..


For the love of GoD, why can't dev's learn that the "Trinity" system is broken and a hassel... These guys know all the group instances in the game and yet they still release a game with a simple LFG TOOL.. Its not hard to implement if you got smart programmers..

I get they want person to communicate in CHAT Channel somewhat, but knowing the mmo crowd nowadays and they being so fragile, not putting in simple features can make or break your game and cause person to quit in droves..


This game has great potential, but the exection didn't totally come together, i just get the feeling the released it to beat GW2 and MISTS to the market so they can re-coup some of the costs...


By all and all i hope they don't need a large sub base to stay open, because for me i'm up to QL5 gear and i'm finding it hard to even think of re-rolling a char,  this game just don't seem to have a high replay value...

Originally posted by VultureSkull
Originally posted by Astralglide

People seem to forget that these games exist to generate profit for companies and shareholders. I would encourage games to find ways to further monetize subscription games that do not give unfair advantages to players. As long as the cash shop items do dont provide stat bonuses (I could give a crap about EXP buffs) and keep it purely cosmetic, I encourage it. If you want to spend $10 on a virtual shirt or $15 on a pet penguin, I could give a crap and don't see why so many people are up in arms over it.

^^ This.

And it is under-pinned by 'choice'. Your choice to buy the game or not, after all it is a free world.

I too cannot see the big problem with this, it is quite conceivable to buy the game and play it and not even know there was an item shop.


Another thing I cannot understand is that people like to have good games and complain to high heaven when a game is not up to a good standard or has a small amount of content or has bugs etc and yet they do not want to pay for it. You think game producers are charities or are government sponsered!

Paying $15 a month for a game that you play 3 to 4 hours a day is absolutely nothing for the amount of entertainment you get out of it, and yet you be-grudge the game producers that want to make a profit the ability to sell a pet or some items of clothing to another player who is prepared to buy it? Explain that rational as it sounds like a "Dog in a Manager" attitude - "I dont/cant use it so I dont want anyone else to use it".


Ultimately you get what you pay for, if we refuse or are unwilling to pay for our games and businesses do not see a profit they will leave, this may not happen with console games but it can happen to MMOs as it they are already).

Or worse still, for you the complainers in paritcular, that don't like to spend your money on what you enjoy, it will end up with so few producers that demand will increase and so will the price lol, then waht will you say as it would be because of your making!


Originally posted by Biskop

I'd have no issue with B2P+CS, but a sub and CS? I don't know, it just screams "greed" to me.

Greed? Greed you say lol, when you talk about greed you should get things in perspective, a banker is greedy, did you take all you money out of the bank? No.

You think game producers roll around in mercedes and ferraris and the likes? How can they be greedy if they do not force you to buy the uless stuff that is in their shops? IF they said that you had to buy at least 5 items in the shop pn top of your sub then you guys may have a point but they don't so your points are all mute.

Well not so much greed... Look at it, who is beeing greedy?  The person who can't resist to buy the product/service or the person who is offering the service in order to make more?  

Its a toss up i think.

Originally posted by Astralglide

People seem to forget that these games exist to generate profit for companies and shareholders. I would encourage games to find ways to further monetize subscription games that do not give unfair advantages to players. As long as the cash shop items do dont provide stat bonuses (I could give a crap about EXP buffs) and keep it purely cosmetic, I encourage it. If you want to spend $10 on a virtual shirt or $15 on a pet penguin, I could give a crap and don't see why so many people are up in arms over it.

Well said... Plus with the addition of how mmo subs can fall off after the free month is up, they have to have another steady or another option to generate revenue when those sub do drop off..

Its not that the trinity system is all bad, but as someone said it doesn't hold up well on low population server or a low population game..

Without trinity system, most fight feel zergy. But remember in zerg you can have somewhat organization..

GW2 to approach seems to be, the monster is big so why not let a large amount of persons challenge it and after its done everyone gets loot, so all is pleased. that system can be applied to other games but games with boss mechanics its a bit harder (not impossible) to execute..

Another way to keep person playing... Not bad.
19 Pages First « 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 » Last