Originally posted by syntax42

Consoles are for the sheep.  Do you want to be part of the herd?

 

How ridiculous.  Consoles are a gaming platform that's relatively cheap compared to building a PC.  It has nothing to do with pack mentality.  The very fact you attribute it to that makes me wonder if you have a sort of pack herd mentality yourself regarding PCs.  You wouldn't be alone.  Most people feel the need to be part of a group.  You obviously take pride in being in the group of PC purists. 

Consoles have their benefits over PCs, and PCs have their benefits over consoles.  People like yourself also seem to assume there are two groups.  Console gamers and PC gamers.  And there must be a rift between the two. 

However what folks like yourself don't seem to really realize, is that PC purists and console purists (both having a sort of herd mentality) are actually rare. 

Most people are likely similar to me.  Giving no thought to which is better.  I'm writing this on my mid range PC I really like, and to my right across the room is a PS3 hooked up to the television I like to relax and sometimes play on during the evening. 

Don't be part of the herd?  I suggest you take your own advice. 

The PS4 is going to be more powerful than my PC. 

Oh my PC suits me just fine.  I can run everything (that I know off) on it, typically always on max or ultra graphics without any problem. 

Yet the PS4 is going to outdo my PC, and I have no plans to do any more hardware upgrades to my system anytime in the foreseeable future.  I certainly have a mid ranged PC.  Now I could spend a good deal of money upgrading my system, even though so far I've seen no need to do so, or I could just buy a PS4 and enjoy a machine more powerful than my PC of which I spend a good deal of the day on. 

Now the PS4 does not compare to a high end PC, however it should get the job done just fine and dandy.  I've never quite understood how current gen systems even run the games they run with only 500mb or so of ram.  So I suspect they'll work the same kind of magic with these next gen systems and get every last bit of power out of them they can. 

However as usual, the PS4 is going to have a much larger games library than the PC will, and they're going to be a major bump in quality and graphics which I'm excited about.  About half the games available on PC will be console ports.  When you consider that, it suddenly doesn't matter all that much which is better.   The unfortunate aspect of PC gaming, especially if you have a very high end PC is all that good hardware is not really being utilized by the developer nearly as much as it could be.  Not even close because i said a good deal of games are console ports. 

So in the end, besides the wonderful world of modding that benefits PC users, what difference does it really make? 

As for your friend, he likely thinks this way because in the past, he would have been correct.  For instance the last Xbox 360 and PS3 were superior to their PC counterparts at the time they released.  It's always been a game of catch up.  Console releases, and outdoes modern PCs at the time.  Then PCs surpass the consoles during their generation.  Then back and forth again.  However this time it seems the PS4 isn't really trying to compete with the PC, because the gaming market has largely been won over by consoles.  Which is a bit unfortunate, as a next gen console means developers try to get the most out of that console, meaning that the standard across the board is raised to that level, and that means better PC games whether ports or not.  Regardless, I'm excited for the next console generation, for the same reason.  It may not be as much of a boost to all gaming as it could have been, but it'll do. 

Ah yes.  Welcome to mmorpgs OP.  Hope you enjoy them. 

They can be lots of fun, and don't forget to try to join a guild and make some friends.  MMOs are always better that way. 

Sorry you had to wait for it to install and update.  That's just the way it is with these games most of the time.  Hope you enjoy it though now that it's installed. 

Well OP, since you've seen a lot of hate threads and posts regarding Swtor I'm very sure they included what they hated about the game in the very rants you are referring to.  Now you come here and want to know why?  Basically asking for more. 

I can't really see the point of thise thread at all. 

You say you're tired of Swtor hate, then create a thread askying why people hate it, therefore inviting more of the same stuff you've already obviously been reading.  What could possibly be the point of that?

Originally posted by ktanner3
Wish I could help you but I was never able to figure it out either. Thankfully I hadn't gotten very far level wise on my old cryptic account so it wasn't much of a loss to just create a new PW account and download the game. But it would have sucked if I had a top level character that had to be redone again. Hope you are able to get it worked out. 

Well thanks.  I appreciate the empathy. 

Some of my tickets were answered.  Apparently if you clean the cookies and all that, it should work, and it did!  And I tried to link it up!  And I filled out my Perfect World info!  And I never got my confirmation e-mail meaning I can now do nothing! 

So I sent in ANOTHER ticket.  This was the third one btw.  So now I'll just have to wait and see what happens. 

Yea I wouldnt really mind loosing a character at all.  Its not that.  Its the stuff I had unlocked on the account I want.  The uniforms and other stuff I had.  Its not the character I worry about.  Its the unlocked stuff I want on my account.  So yea.  : ) 

Anyways I've never had to send in a support ticket before I've even started playing a game.  And this makes THREE and still not done.  You know I think Perfect World just might want to work on their friggin set up a little bit.  Man alive......

Originally posted by jpnole

Originally posted by Corehaven

I wonder how well this is really going to sell on that console. 

 

There's just so many other games I'd rather be playing.  I still have Assassins Creed 3 sitting over there and I haven't touched it.  I'd rather play Boarderlands 2 than this stuff.  Haven't picked that up. 

 

I think a lot of gamers who own a PS3 are a little more used to more dynamic games than D3.  Top down view, running around dungeons killing monsters in just a constant hack and slash is something that really doesn't begin to compare with a host of better games with open worlds, 3D environments and engaging stories on the system. 

If there are so many other games you'd rather be playing then why is AC3 "sitting over there" untouched? Also, if you'd rather play Borderlands 2, then why haven't you picked it up? Sounds like you just had a knee jerk reaction here and posted without thinking it through.

 

Because I've been busy playing GW2 on my PC since Oct which was my birthday and then I got AC3 and a couple of other games for Christmas.  I'm getting a little tired of GW2 though so I've been thinking of playing AC3. 

Basically, a short answer to your question is because I'm currently playing something else and haven't gotten around to AC3 yet.  However Diablo 3 for PS3?  There are dozens of games I still don't have for the system I would pick up long before I'd even consider D3 if ever.  So no, it was hardly a knee jerk reaciton. 

Having not played STO since about 2 months after release, I'm desperately trying to figure out how to link my old Cryptic account with a new (yet to be made) Perfect World account. 

I found this......

https://support.perfectworld.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4134

Which kindly tells me this.....

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For a CRYPTIC account with no existing PERFECT WORLD account:

1. Navigate to the Star Trek Online website (http://sto.perfectworld.com/) or the Champions Online website (http://co.perfectworld.com/)
2. Click on “Register/Login” in the upper right corner of the screen
3. Enter your Cryptic User Name and password
4. Click 'NO' when asked if you have an existing Perfect World account
5. Follow the on-screen instructions to create a new Perfect World account and complete linking

NOTE: Once the accounts are linked, you will need to use your Perfect World user name and password to log in.

I wonder how well this is really going to sell on that console. 

There's just so many other games I'd rather be playing.  I still have Assassins Creed 3 sitting over there and I haven't touched it.  I'd rather play Boarderlands 2 than this stuff.  Haven't picked that up. 

I think a lot of gamers who own a PS3 are a little more used to more dynamic games than D3.  Top down view, running around dungeons killing monsters in just a constant hack and slash is something that really doesn't begin to compare with a host of better games with open worlds, 3D environments and engaging stories on the system. 

I've never understood the argument that it ruins a community.  In fact it seems like incredibly backward logic to me. 

If anything I'd assume anything that makes it easier to unite with other players would actually bring the community together.  Not apart.  It's like arguing that a GPS makes it harder to reach your destination.  

Sometimes I just don't understand where people are coming from.  A lot of the time actually.  The obviously intelligent folks that make concrete, well thought out points?  I think I get them most of the time even if I don't always agree with them.  Then there are the other folks. 

Originally posted by Quirhid
No, we don't need fluff, housing or other stuff not involving killing. Devoting as much time to them as "the killing part" is mad, because those features are nowhere near as popular. The killing stuff sells - fluff & housing does not.

Yea you're right.  Because the Sims wasn't one of the best selling games of all time.   A game that was nearly entirely nothing but fluff, housing, etc.    Woops. 

Your point is now dead.  You're welcome. 

You can also go here, and create a thread on your issue being as descriptive as possible WITHOUT giving any account information.  Do not do that.  But you can say what your issues are, and the mod / manager / whatever very commonly replies to those threads and tells you where to go and exactly what you can do. 

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/support/account

Just log in with your account first on the login in the website.  He may have suggestions that will allow you to get your situation fixed as fast as possible. 

Sometimes accounts do get flagged as botting or some such for seemingly no reason.  I've never had it happen to me, thank goodness.  But I seriously do sympathize with your situation.   I would be seriously ticked off myself.  Just try to create a civil thread like you did here.  You might get good advice very quickly. 

EDIT: After your thread, that you've made with your problem, you can also go ahead and search through the forum there to see if this has been an issue before ( of course it has ).  You might do so before posting your thread.  But I'd personally do both.  Anyways by doing that you might find the answer to your problem without having to get a response to your thread. 

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Heretique
Guild Wars 2

^ played all the games you mentioned i'm 31 right now:) and gw2 is only game that's keeping my attention for now

Ditto on all accounts.  Same age, same interest at the moment.  Although I think its great if you can get a real life friend to play GW2 with you.  I think I might have stopped playing if not for him.  He, and my guild of cool people keep me going when I begin to get bored. 

I get this overwhelming urge to leave, but then I do something different and suddenly I'm having lots of fun again.  I'm in a fun period right now, after sort of wanting to quit twice. 

Well what's a better 5th or 6th place?  Besides Rift?  What would you put in 5th place and as an added challenge, 6th place (since I can only assume if Rift isnt good enough for 5th it may not be for 6th and 4th is right out.....).

Honest questions.  I've never played Rift, but there's not a whole lot of really great mmos out.   I'm not really surprised it is where it's at on the votes.  But if you have better games you think are better suited for the slot I'd just be interested to see what people have to say.....

Originally posted by Gravarg
I'm old fashioned, I like a subscription with my games...there's only one downside to a subscription game, and that's the subscription.  The bonuses of a subscription game more than make up for that though lol.

There's another downside to a sub game.  In that these days, they all go F2P within a year or two,  and then they launch a ludicrous cash shop.  That's what sub games are to me.  A soon to be F2P game. 

Do you like F2P games?  Then why do you like sub games?  They're F2P babies.  They'll just grow up, get all moody in their teenage years, and then become F2P. 

Now Buy to Play?  That's even more old fashioned.  Now that, I'll do. 

I quit back in Burning Crusades. 

I will never play it again.  Every reason given in the video can be said by any fan of any mmo. 

Yes people quit WoW.  I did.  I have friends that did and never looked back.   WoW does what it trys to do pretty well.  I'm not trying to knock it.  But it's pretty bold to say people never really quit WoW.  Do they have the record highest population ever?  No.  They've been loosing subs for years. 

People do quit WoW.  All the time, and in fact, never go back.  I am one of them. 

And once again we see the true motivations of many open world PVP players.  Consequence free ganking of players for their own chuckles and amusement. 

Age of Wushu does have open world PVP.  It's just not consequence free.  Ganker......OWNED.  Bam.  Love it. 

Originally posted by General_Dru-Zod

Originally posted by mari3k

I doubt that it will have a 15$ a month sub fee. 

If it will, it will have to close servers in 6 month.... people are not willing to spent money on subs anymore.

This is Bull Sh!t

I can't speak for anyone else.  But I'm not paying subs for games ever again. 

I want to own the game I buy.  I want to play it whenver I want.  If I want to take a break for awhile I want to come back if I feel like it.  I do this with every other kind of game I own.  It's about value. 

So I don't care how great a game is, I won't pay a monthly for a game I already paid for.  I'm just not.  Every game that tries a sub fee these days ends up being totally F2P months later. 

So hold on now sub lovers.  Is that what you want?  Do you want to pay a sub for awhile just to see the game go totally F2P months later?  Because none of you seem to like that, except it happens 90% of the time.  The way I look at it, a sub game, is actually a soon to be F2P game.  How's that for logic?  Yea I know there's a few exceptions and there are.  But the danger is still very much there. 

I'm not a F2P guy.  I'm a B2P guy.  I want to pay an up front cost ( I dont care if its 80 or 100 bucks) and then I want to be able to play the game whenever I want.  Period.