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World Wide that really isn't very much. 1 million



Originally posted by sgel

Why don't they say how many players are playing?



The computer requirements are higher than WoW. I didn't realize that until I purchased the game and tried to play it and the lag was simply insane. I could barely move. I think some of these companies forget that not all of us own a computer specifically designed for gaming. As long as these companies continue to design games that require a high end computer to play they will not be able to win a lot of market share from WoW at least not until WoW does the same thing requiring a higher end computer to play. During these tough economic times not everyone is going to rush to the store to upgrade their computer just to play a game when everything else they use it for works just fine.

Originally posted by Kaocan

Hahahaha, OMG!!

Yes, I know, it totally sucks that you have to actually pay some money to play a new game when it comes out. No you can't pick it up in the store, play for a couple weeks for free and then charge it back to get your money back. So sorry...oh yeah, and it does in fact say you have to set up a sub or use a game card to play, period.

It doesn't say that on the box. They don't tell you that until you've paid for the game and set up your account. The point here is that the box is misleading claiming that you have a 30 day subscription when you have to commit your CC or buy a game card. WoW comes with a game card in the box.

And to the other poster with the "feeling", I do have a reoccurring subscription to WoW (obviously I have at least one CC) and I have for several years but when I started playing WoW my game came with a 30 day game card and I could play immediately upon download.

The point here is, if you asked your parents for this for Christmas make sure they buy you a game card and/or are aware that they will have to cough up their CC Christmas morning and if you're buying it for someone buy them a game card too or it's going to be a miserable Christmas morning for someone.

I also think the misleading quote of the package is pretty fail.

Originally posted by headphones

in fairness to the OP, he's not complaining about the sub fees, but that he can't use the free play time WITHOUT giving credit card details up front. that's not such an invalid argument. i think he's trying to say he doesn't want to pay to get the one month free after already paying for the box.

i think some people have jumped on him as though he expected a f2p...


This is the exact quote from their site:

"You have 29 days of play time starting 12.20.2011. You must sign up for a recurring subscription plan or redeem a Game Time Code before you can play. If you sign up for a recurring subscription, you will be billed automatically at the end of your current remaining play time."

Originally posted by coxyroxy

Warning on the box like every online game. Wil require a online subscription.

This is exactly what it says on the package:


" Valid credit card or paid game card (if available), Internet connection and paid subscription required to play game.  30-day subscription included with purchase."

The 30 day subscription is only valid if you have already set up the credit card draw or you already purchased a game card. It does not say that you must purchase the game card before you can play or that your 30 day subscription begins to deteriorate the moment you put the product registration code into their site. The last sentence is misleading.

No what some of you are saying is not true. You can play both WoW and Rift without giving away your credit card number. In fact when you buy WoW you get a 30 day play card to get you started and have the option of either setting up a draw account or buying game cards in the store. The real point is people who will be buying this game for their loved ones for Christmas are going to end up with egg on their faces.

I just purchased the Star Wars Old Republic and I'm pig biting mad. See the game doesn't come with a play card. You get 29 days for free but only if you subscribe to a reoccurring billing cycle or purchase a play card. The moment you register for the game the clock begins to tick on the so called free time. Now even games like WoW and Rift offer you free trials so you can check out the game before you buy but not Star Wars. There is nothing on the package that indicates that you have to buy anything more to play either.

Now imagine how excited your kid will be to open the new game, spend an hour downloading it only to realize he can't play. If you've maxed out your credit card buying Christmas presents as a lot of people do or you simply don't have a credit card you're not going to be the most popular parent on the block.

I shouldn't have to make this kind of commitment to try a new game when everyone else is giving away real free game time.

There are going to be a lot of heartbroken  kids come Christmas morning and a lot of angry parents.


Oh and while we're at it .... can we find the guys who designed the level 60 epic BG gear and get them back on the team? Even the level 70 gear was pretty good looking.

Originally posted by uohaloran

I'm pretty sure most everything from this expansion was floating around Blizzard's offices before they even hired the guy in 2008.  Axing one dude for something that is probably a collective desicion wont do anything.

I agree with this. The first who should go is the C.E.O.  Letting GC become the scapegoat will only mask the underlying issues for a short time. I do believe GC should go but likely there are several others who need to hit the road right along with him. The new C.E.O. should be a gamer as well as a businessman and his first order of business would be to restructure the game design team.

Originally posted by GameOvr

GC maybe should not be sacked over MoP but definately should for what he did in Cataclysm.


Two huge mistakes.

A) Let's make healers manage their mana. Sounds simple right? This had a cascading effect that was like tipping over the first domino. Healers already had a more stressful job in raids than most other roles. It took a special kind of person to play that role. About 20% of healers quit. With 20% less healers, 20% of everybody else can't raid anymore. This led to painful episodes in guilds deciding who to bench, including some that raided for years. I have seen officers in guilds burn out and quit over managing this BS. One simple change, big effects.


B) On top of healer changes, they increased raid complexity and overall difficulty. In response to a loud minority whinging about the game being too easy. They tuned Sinestra for Paragon guild between attempts. Paragon has a vid that shows this. So you ended up with content that everybody paid to create, and only 1.8% saw. At last blizzcon GC said, people don't want to wipe 100 times trying to down a boss, we get that. Well duh dipshit.

Perhaps the reason they are wiping is that it was too easy to level and players didn't get the experience they needed on their way up to 85. I see this alot in BG's where higher level players are completely clueless not only on how to play but how to spec and gear for BGs. It's this mad race to 85 that takes about 4 weeks if you play consistent but part time. Try being on foot until you get to level 40 than then play this mess and tell me it's not easy.

Originally posted by alexanys1982

I dont care what they do to the man, just bring back WoW's soul or im never coming back.

Their biggest problem in the game is trying to make it easier hoping to attract new customers. The problem with that line of thinking is that there becomes nothing and no one to aspire to (the latter promoting socialization). That is when your game gets boring. If everyone can make it to level 85 then what is the point?


Corparations often behave as if they believe their customers are mentally challenged and in this case they wanted to dumb it down to attract more of the people they believe are  their clientel.  Either that or they just got dumber themselves.


They need to drop the gimmics and just concentrate on fixing their game and making it a challenge again.


If not at least they'll still be big in Korea.

Originally posted by BadSpock

Too early to tell.

If you put aside the Panda issue, some very interesting things being done that I have taken a "wait and see" approach to.

If they truly are trying to bring the game back towards Vanilla and get players out of cities and into the open world, this could be the best WoW expansion yet.


Well I've been down this road with them too many times since WoLK when in game GM's promised to fix my Lock and then shut the game down completely for 2 hours the following May just to nerf it again. So I'll be moving on to The Old Republic and give it a try. Maybe if enough people here say that WoW is back to it's former glory and everyone doesn't have 50 level 85 toons I'll give WoW another try but for now I'm letting my subscription run out. It just isn't worth it to me anymore.

Actually WoW has lost 2 million players.


And rightly so they ruined the game.

GC should have been sacked with the release of WoLK. The game has been a POS ever since.

I tried to download LoTR several times a couple of months ago. Unfortunately there was some major glitch or virus in Pando (the program they use to download) and not only couldn't I get it to work I had to restore my computer twice because of it (I kept trying different methods to download it because friends said it was great and I was sick of WoW).

A good lesson for other game makers. If you don't keep on top of your programming you're gonna lose some potential customers forever.

I am almost at a loss for words here. Kung Fu Panda? Not only is Blizzard simply ripping off something Disney (I'd sue) but this is just another one of Blizzards tactics to get children who are much too young for some of WoW's content (you have to be at least 17 to buy the game) to pester unsuspecting parents into buying them the game. No wonder the game has gotten so easy it is a bore to play. In my mind this is sleazy marketing done to recover from some of  the heavy market share they have lost from being lost. They have totally screwed up the game and have no clue how to fix it so they have resorted to gimmics.  I think the fat lady is approaching the stage on WoW.

Maybe they are too busy trying to figure out how to fix the mess they made out of WoW?

Originally posted by Blackhound

Does anyone else remember playing as Deathwing? I loved burning the countryside.

Does anyone remember when WoW was actually fun to play?

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