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I'm looking forward to the the last of the story leading into the expansion. :)



Originally posted by Siphaed



We get it, fine.  You've won.  You're going to be doing RPGs besides MMOs on this site.  That's a given.  But to just rip the heart out and start reviewing and looking at console exclusives that aren't on PC, the CORE audience that made this site what it is?!  Not sure how to tell you this, but you're just ostracizing your main audience, your 'peps'. 








 








Where's the review of the The Elder Scrolls Online relaunch








That game relaunched in much the same sense that FFXIV did, and it got a re-review.   The game is now selling under a new box at retailers and digital sites under the new name "Tamrial Unlimited", just as FFXIV did with "A Realm Reborn".   Mechanics and features have majorly changed since it's launch as well.   I don't even play the game and probably won't because it's just not my taste.  But that doesn't mean it should lack justice where justice is do (Ha! The game just recently added a Justice system too).








 








In fact, it would be nice if MMORPG.com started doing interval reviews of games that have launched 6 months, 1 year, 1.5 years, 2 years prior.  These "Relooks" would help give an overall insight into a game that some may have passed up at launch that want to enter it at a later date.  Or it might shed some light on things that have improved for those that have left because of the lack of said improvements.     MMOs are evolving games that change over time and because of these changes it would be best to do post-launch reviews down the road so to keep up to date with them (instead of just banking on reviewing only a boxed expansion every couple of years).





Well XIV was remade from the ground up from combat, to dungeons, maps, engine and much more. However I know what you mean the latest patch has added a lot to ESO and the console version does need its own review. :) 





 

Well in ffiv you got on a space ship and went to the moon and climbed the technologically advanced tower of babel. Don't even get me started on all the technology and emo pretty boy characters in 7 and 8. All the stuff you said has changed over the years was always a part of many ff's. >.>
Originally posted by Scorchien
Only thing worth a dam on that list is Heavensward FF14 ... rest is cowpies...imo

Yup, agreed but happy for people who were waiting for any of them anyway. :)

Originally posted by lobotaru
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Originally posted by lobotaru
Originally posted by Foomerang

Considering 1.0 tanked and 2.0 had been steadily growing, I doubt they will make another mmo like 1.0

FFXIV:ARR has not had a positive growing subscription number for some time now. They are banking on the expansion bringing back players. They're advertising behavior when it comes to FFXIV:ARR, as well as the established trends in MMORPG populations, suggest that is the case.

Be careful. The echo chamber is chanting that the population is growing right now. They base it on having queues to enter the game on some of the more populated servers. Fortunately for them I suppose, Squeenix will never actually release any information about the realities of their subscription numbers and instead try and obfuscate by releasing total accounts created numbers. The really funny part is that people often quote on these forums that they have 2+ million subs which means that their policy is working beautifully.

I don't hate them for it, though. They genuinely like the game they are playing, and people can misinterpret criticism of a game's growth as an attack on the integrity of the game as a whole. The development team clearly wants to make a game that is fun and works. The problem, as I see it, is that we have entered an age where community games require community devs that listen and respond to the concerns of players. Chris Roberts is doing an exemplary job at taking player considerations into his game's design. Square Enix still holds too much control over its developers to allow that kind of interaction. The refusal to be open about the subscription numbers is symptomatic of the problem.

Well the reality is they sold over one million copies in china so I'm sure it grew at least a little. Even without them they have a steady 500 to 600k playing the game for a while now. The game is fine and will continue do fine for years to come IMO. Also besides exact sub numbers they don't hold much info back and are good about feedback and being open with the direction of the game if you ask me.

Originally posted by Malabooga
Originally posted by Foomerang

A million different ways to kill stuff dead vs a million different things to do. Subtle difference in verbiage with vastly different meanings. Im seeing a lot of that in this thread as well.

Yup, the irony is on them.

"OMG i get to choose skill A or skill B to fry stuff, this is SUCH AN AWESOME/REAL mmoRPG"

at least i had a good laugh

Hey it's a fire elemental whats the best way to kill it? Ice spell over and over. Yeah .... awsome.

Originally posted by NightHaveN

And even that trailer only showed the areas, which also hope the coloring is actually a trailer thing, and not the real deal.

 

But they didn't show anything else.

Well, yes the trailer is a tour of the new lands in the expansion. However much more has been revealed as well 3 new jobs, the alexander raid, new primals, new beastman tribes, and much more.

Originally posted by Bascola
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Bascola

Originally posted by Foomerang   ...yada yada yada People love to complain. You say you want something else to do besides grind tokens for raid gear. Theres a ton of it staring you in the face, but go ahead and dismiss it all claiming theres nothing to do. You will be hard pressed to find an mmo right now with this level of polish that offers this many activities. I don't do raids or dungeons. I barely do combat unless I feel like switching it up for a day or training my chocobo some more. But I have more content than I know what to do with and I have been playing since beta. My character has been progressing despite zero token grinds. So what do you want exactly? Youre really good at making blanket statements and using vague terms. But what specifically do you want? Lets pretend you get to log into your dream mmo and do exactly what you want to do. What would that entail?
No, i did not say i want "something else besides token grind" or "there is nothing to do". You might want to read it again, i even quote it for you and highlight the important parts:

 

"Now if they just change the gameplay from the boring token grind and the single armor set progression scheme to a real MMO with choices, sidegrades unique gear i might be subscribing again."

You need to read and understand what is written. I don't want anything else to to do, i want real open world MMO content not Lobby style token grind. I want different gameplay and various end game activities other than token grind after token grind. I want armor choices not 1 set per class per update.

You can list all the nice fluff this game has and it has a lot of it, i agree. But the main gameplay is boring as banging your head against a wall and you are so restricted that you can essentially play only one day a week to progress.

Well all of that exists in this game. So I now know where the problem lies. You think linear, you will play linear. Be more open minded and these games will open themselves to you. Take care.

Has nothing to do with thinking linear. I have finished my Botanist and Fisher "Relics", i have a  house, garden and furniture, i have done side quests and mini games. I am a max level Chef and Alchemist.

You can add as much fluff as you want it does not make the main gameplay better. I know you have no argument against this as it is well known and the main problem of the game.

Take care.

Well there are side grades. They are not as good as coils but if you get token or the latest tower gear you have end game gear as well. I understand if you don't care for a gear treadmill but it's only known to be a problem to people that don't care for that style of progression. To me 3 types of endgame gear with in 6 months is plenty, 4 if you count crafted fully materiad gear.

Lookin great and I can't wait for Jun. 23.
Yeah, I saw that on reddit.
Ditto, I can't wait for the new info on the expansion!
Yeah, the same people a year from now will be saying the same thing even though over half the severs will be character creation locked just like now.
Originally posted by observer

Pay-to-play doesn't automatically equal better quantity or quality.  Just look at WoW at the end of MoP.  It took blizzard around 18 months to release WoD since it's last major patch in MoP.

FFXIV is the last major MMO to stay subscription, but that doesn't mean it's releasing good quality or more quantity than a B2P or F2P MMO.  It's just your average MMO, with instanced zones and boring combat.  Non-innovative to say the least.

No being a sub game doesn't mean that at all. However the quantity of content released is large and of good quality.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/patchnote_log/

Instanced zones? No the world is just zoned anyone and everyone can enter them at the same time.

Originally posted by Draemos
Originally posted by Phry
\Don't know why you have such a hate on for FFXIV;ARR
Um, I don't?  I've stated multiple times I think FFXIV is a great game is most respects.  But it's combat engine is awful.  
, but having played several of the games you listed, i don't really see how you can say their combat systems are better than that of FFXIV;ARR, i also disagree that the combat system is bad at all, i think the fact that the game is as popular as it is, is testament to the fact that the combat system, along with the rest of the game, is more than good enough
That's like saying that Destiny has a great storyline because lots of people play it.  No, Destiny has lots of people play it because it's a good shooter and people play it IN SPITE OF it's poor storyline.  If someone where to tell me that Destiny has a great storyline, I'd tell them they were full of crap... and that's basically what your telling me with FFXIV combat engine.  
if you don't like it, thats fine, but that doesn't make it bad.
It's combat being bad is what makes it bad.
As for your comments about Destiny and Oblivion etc, hardly reinforces your arguments about FFXIV;ARR, so far you have stated that FFXIV;ARR combat is clunky, it isn't, and while it may not be quite as smooth as that in WoW, it does at least, handle it as well, if not better than games such as Tera, GW2, SW;TOR even, so you hate FFXIV;ARR, thats okay, nobody is forced into liking every game there is, but if your going to find fault with a game, at least use valid reasons, if you use the overly well used, its 'shit because i say so' then your argument will not be the only thing to lack credibility.
Don't start talking nonsense about how Tera or GW2 combat is more clunky than FFXIV and then question my credibility in the same sentence.  The hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife.  Stop being a blatant fanboy.  FFXIV is a good game that does a lot of things right, but be real about the fact that it's combat engine is awful.

I'm guessing he won't get "real" because .. gasp he disagrees with your opinion. 

Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by simsalabim77

I don't play WoW. Cool assumption though. 

You're a WoW apologist that doesn't even play the game. Amazing.

It's a solid MMO just like XIV is, and I'd still be playing it if I weren't burned out on a decade old game. I may be an "apologist," but unlike you I am not blinded by fanboyism of the highest order and irrational disgust for a different game and the community based on patch cycles. This has been fun, but I see no point in continuing our little chat. Haters gonna hate and all that. 

Your just as bad as he is.

Originally posted by Dullahan
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by Dullahan

The money in question was not enough to fund the entire team.  They had been running on fumes for quite some time, and what little had been raised for the game was not enough to keep industry professionals building a game without a reliable source of funding..  The idea that Brad withheld Pantheon money from people who actually planned to continue working on Pantheon is unlikely.  You can argue the morality side of that all you want, but all I can see is a decision was made to keep money for Pantheon working for Pantheon, not developers who had no intention of staying.

I can tell you right now, had that money been dispersed to people leaving the team, not only would it have led to greater outrage and distrust than Brad's decision to keep the money, it would have likely been the end of Pantheon.

Greater distrust?

He frankly admitted having taken a third of the donation money to pay himself in advance.

3 months in advance - 40.000$ for each month

 

I'm sure he was living on bread and cheese during that time.

Absolutely greater distrust.  I can tell you if money I donated to Pantheon was spent to pay people leaving rather than enabling others to move forward with development, I wouldn't be following Pantheon now.

Does it suck for those developers?  Yes.  Was it the right decision for Pantheon?  I believe so.  Regardless of how talented the current team is today, without Brad being able to continue working on the game last year,  I dare say none of us would be reading about Pantheon now.

Forgive me if I'm not willing to believe that a team of professionals intended to stay together without a reliable source of income and that instead of paying those folks who definitely intended to stay, the trust and money was sacrificed to pay off some personal debts or buy hookers and blow like the conspiracy theorists would have you believe.

Yes it's stuff like this being thrown around that make me wonder if it's just a bunch of brad haters spreading unfounded lies.

Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by drivendawn
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by drivendawn
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by Dullahan
Originally posted by Burntvet
Originally posted by Tyggs
Very interested in this one, but I want to see a bit more before I consider donating.

Considering the de facto EMBEZZLEMENT that happened the last time any money was donated to the making of this title, why should anyone give 10 cents?

I have a bridge to sell anyone that does...

 

"Yeah, forget about that last time ~ $150k was pocketed the last time for no future development, and that McQuaid pocketed $45k for himself, this time will be totally different."

Yeah, sure....

Ya, and if that money would have been divided up just before everyone parted ways on good terms, thereby resigning Pantheon to another failed dream, I'm sure that would have gone over well.

Leaving Pantheon money in the hands of people who want to continue making Pantheon is the lesser of two evils in my opinion, especially if the original team gets reimbursed for their time down the road.

Rofl

The old team left Brad because he refused to pay them. If they had been paid for their efforts the team wouldn't have left.

There is only one evil and that one is snatching the development money for his own expenses.

Is this true? I would like to know because I really don't know. Please

That's the thing, it's he said she said for the most part, no one really knows the full story, we have two sides arguing different things. So for the most part anyone arguing for or against such is really arguing on behalf of what they want to be true.

So no real proof. >.>

I wouldn't say that.

There was the angry post of the wife of one of the devs telling the story. But talk is cheap on the internet and that alone would just be rumors.

The point is Brad himself admitted having taken a third of the donation money.

The current team is working without payment.

 

Up to you how you put this puzzle together now.

I guess we will see what happen in the future.

Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by drivendawn
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by Dullahan
Originally posted by Burntvet
Originally posted by Tyggs
Very interested in this one, but I want to see a bit more before I consider donating.

Considering the de facto EMBEZZLEMENT that happened the last time any money was donated to the making of this title, why should anyone give 10 cents?

I have a bridge to sell anyone that does...

 

"Yeah, forget about that last time ~ $150k was pocketed the last time for no future development, and that McQuaid pocketed $45k for himself, this time will be totally different."

Yeah, sure....

Ya, and if that money would have been divided up just before everyone parted ways on good terms, thereby resigning Pantheon to another failed dream, I'm sure that would have gone over well.

Leaving Pantheon money in the hands of people who want to continue making Pantheon is the lesser of two evils in my opinion, especially if the original team gets reimbursed for their time down the road.

Rofl

The old team left Brad because he refused to pay them. If they had been paid for their efforts the team wouldn't have left.

There is only one evil and that one is snatching the development money for his own expenses.

Is this true? I would like to know because I really don't know. Please

That's the thing, it's he said she said for the most part, no one really knows the full story, we have two sides arguing different things. So for the most part anyone arguing for or against such is really arguing on behalf of what they want to be true.

So no real proof. >.>

Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by Dullahan
Originally posted by Burntvet
Originally posted by Tyggs
Very interested in this one, but I want to see a bit more before I consider donating.

Considering the de facto EMBEZZLEMENT that happened the last time any money was donated to the making of this title, why should anyone give 10 cents?

I have a bridge to sell anyone that does...

 

"Yeah, forget about that last time ~ $150k was pocketed the last time for no future development, and that McQuaid pocketed $45k for himself, this time will be totally different."

Yeah, sure....

Ya, and if that money would have been divided up just before everyone parted ways on good terms, thereby resigning Pantheon to another failed dream, I'm sure that would have gone over well.

Leaving Pantheon money in the hands of people who want to continue making Pantheon is the lesser of two evils in my opinion, especially if the original team gets reimbursed for their time down the road.

Rofl

The old team left Brad because he refused to pay them. If they had been paid for their efforts the team wouldn't have left.

There is only one evil and that one is snatching the development money for his own expenses.

Is this true? I would like to know because I really don't know. Please

I like music to set the mood in my MMO's and this sounds pretty good to me.

Here's one of my fave's from FFXI http://youtu.be/3TnSMXcp2Hg.

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