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Originally posted by amber-r
Originally posted by squalleonaha

FF14 is for SE fans only.

 

This is why it will go f2p.

 

This is why every mmo made within the last 5 years has gone free to play.

 

Fans of almost every p2p mmo said it would never go free to play, they did.

Why do you even care? You and a few choice people seem to love to harp about the downfall of this game. No they failed because of bugs ,no endgame/bad end game, not enough content in general and what not.

Originally posted by amber-r

If the game was doing fine they wouldn't have to offer free to play time to beg old players that have already quit in huge numbers to come back, they would proudly state the new update and brace the servers for all the lost players to come back right?

 

What they are doing is saying we know you all quit, we know you have lost interest completely so play for free.  Please, please come back...for free to see if you like it now.

 

This game is 4 months old and they have already lost so many players that they have to offer f2p time to try and coax all the players that have quit to come back and try the game they stopped playing.  After 4 months...

 

Idk about anyone else but other games that had a big patch simply sent me an email stating the patchy, not giving me f2p time with it lol

If they were getting desperate for subs SE would offer it to everyone not just players who quit and haven't given 2.1 a try even though its been out for a month. I think they are just trying to show some people who quit what they have done with the 2.1 patch and as someone said SE will probably do this every patch.

Originally posted by TangentPoint
Originally posted by drivendawn
Originally posted by TangentPoint
Originally posted by drivendawn
Originally posted by Cymdai

Elrenmazuo, As was pointed out to you in the previous topic, 1.5 million registered users =/= 1.5 million subscribers.

I'm glad you appreciate ctrl + c and ctrl + v, but you're still wrong. The game was at 600k in November... so you know it's less than that now.

As for being a hater, that's a fair label I suppose. But the game lost over half of it's registered users by November. They certainly aren't going back up, and games don't do these kinds of events because their populations are flourishing. Just saying. The evidence is there that this game is not meeting expectations, and we're only on month 4.

A very fair label your post history is nothing but bashing this game. Over 600k and Yoshi said 400k would do. With all the sale that happened the last couple of weeks I bet its higher than you think and with the PS4 version coming out they will certainly need those extra servers.

Let's not start moving the goal-post.

"Over 600k" still =/= "over 1 million". 

Again, accuracy matters.

No goal post moving here, Cymdai was saying there was no where for their sub numbers to go but down. I'm just saying they could go up as well.

You absolutely are. You're changing the criteria of the situation after the fact.

The dispute is over Elrenmazuo's repeated claim of 'over 1 million subs' in order to exaggerate ARR's success. It has been called out as being  false, or at best unsupported by any information released officially.

That should be the end of it.

However, instead, you come out and move the goal post by changing the criteria from "over 1 million subs"  - which is in dispute, to "well, it's 600k which is more than what Yoshi says would do", which isn't in dispute. The intent clearly being to preserve the impression Elrenmazuo was attempting to create for anyone who didn't know better. Again, I won't argue that 600k is a very healthy population... but again, that wasn't the point, and it's still far shy of "over 1 million". 

The point is another forum poster (Elrenmazuo) being called out for spreading false information in order to make XIV seem more successful than it is.

 

But it wasn't he went on to say the parts that I underlined and I disagree with that and no it wasn't my intent to preserve what Elrenmazuo's claimed. If you don't believe me oh well.

Originally posted by TangentPoint
Originally posted by drivendawn
Originally posted by Cymdai

Elrenmazuo, As was pointed out to you in the previous topic, 1.5 million registered users =/= 1.5 million subscribers.

I'm glad you appreciate ctrl + c and ctrl + v, but you're still wrong. The game was at 600k in November... so you know it's less than that now.

As for being a hater, that's a fair label I suppose. But the game lost over half of it's registered users by November. They certainly aren't going back up, and games don't do these kinds of events because their populations are flourishing. Just saying. The evidence is there that this game is not meeting expectations, and we're only on month 4.

A very fair label your post history is nothing but bashing this game. Over 600k and Yoshi said 400k would do. With all the sale that happened the last couple of weeks I bet its higher than you think and with the PS4 version coming out they will certainly need those extra servers.

Let's not start moving the goal-post.

"Over 600k" still =/= "over 1 million". 

Again, accuracy matters.

No goal post moving here, Cymdai was saying there was no where for their sub numbers to go but down. I'm just saying they could go up as well.

Originally posted by Cymdai

Elrenmazuo, As was pointed out to you in the previous topic, 1.5 million registered users =/= 1.5 million subscribers.

I'm glad you appreciate ctrl + c and ctrl + v, but you're still wrong. The game was at 600k in November... so you know it's less than that now.

As for being a hater, that's a fair label I suppose. But the game lost over half of it's registered users by November. They certainly aren't going back up, and games don't do these kinds of events because their populations are flourishing. Just saying. The evidence is there that this game is not meeting expectations, and we're only on month 4.

A very fair label your post history is nothing but bashing this game. Over 600k and Yoshi said 400k would do. With all the sale that happened the last couple of weeks I bet its higher than you think and with the PS4 version coming out they will certainly need those extra servers.

Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by Cymdai

Did anyone really not see this coming?

I mean really... who has a campaign within 6 months of release to try and draw back in subscribers they couldn't retain? 

It's a matter of time until there's an announcement about implementing some F2P options, mark my words! This game didn't, doesn't, and likely won't ever have the staying power necessary to demand a subscription fee.

the game has over a million active subs and servers are usually packed.  And they announced they are adding more servers for steam and PS4 release.  They are doing great.  LOL this aint no where near a F2P

I don't know solid numbers on subs but there are a lot. I knew some one would come in with "incoming F2P", 2 days is hardly a campaign lol. I wonder how many times the haters will push back the date on when this game fails or goes F2P.

Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by drivendawn
It has been a slow year but even if ESO and Wildstar had come out this year I bet FFXIV still would have won. This is just my opinion of course. Now where is that flame resistant jacket of mine.

I really doubt that FFXIV has anything which is game of the year worthy. But they have to reward one MMO right? so yeah FFXIV won. I doubt it would have won if we had more MMOS like ESO and Wildstar in 2013.

And that is my opinion ofcourse. 

Agreed.  FFXIV won game of the year because there simply wasn't any other viable choices.  

The reason I say it would is because of how badly split the communities are at every site I go to on whether they will be playing ESO and Wildstar or not. ESO has an IP advantage but a lot of people are against it being an mmo in the first place and you see articles poping up about it's possible failure already. While Wildstar has a cartoon look people don't like and raid end game progression like FFXIV but 40 man raids and without the IP advantage. I just don't see how they would do any better but I guess will see.

It has been a slow year but even if ESO and Wildstar had come out this year I bet FFXIV still would have won. This is just my opinion of course. Now where is that flame resistant jacket of mine.
 
Originally posted by TangentPoint
Originally posted by ZizouX
Originally posted by amber-r

It's sad when you can easily list numerous reasons that FFXI was good and worth playing and really only 1 to play FFXIV.  Graphics.

 

I hope they refurbish FFXI one day, it's still the better game.

Rose tinted glasses.

Rose tinted glasses has nothing to do with it. FFXI kept me - and many, many others - entertained for almost 8 years, until the unholy trinity known as Abyssea came out and basically undermined everything SE had built up 'til that point. Even SE came out later and admitted they screwed up with Abyssea, and they never recovered from it.

I would take pre-Abyssea FFXI back in a heart beat. No question.

And that's not nostalgia goggles or rose-tinted glasses talking. That's almost 8 years of awesome memories created, epic experiences, new friends made whom I still talk to to this day, stories I never tired of experiencing, memorable/funny/awesome characters, and a world I never got tired of exploring, no matter how many times I ran through it.  

In my humble opinion, SE captured lightning in a bottle with XI. I'm sure it was due, in no small part, to Sakaguchi's involvement, as XI was one of the last titles he worked on before he left SE. Of course, they later squandered and lost that lightning when they decided to release Abyssea. It's been downhill since then. 

Was it all roses and rainbows? Nope. I have my share of bad memories, too. But they are few and ultimately insignificant, and had no effect on my enjoyment of the game.

Would a game like early XI do as well if it launched today? Probably not. But that takes nothing away from the game it was.

Others around here can speak for themselves, but of all the people I know from XI, only 2 are still playing. All the others (quite a lot) have left. The #1 reason they cite for leaving is "Abyssea ruined it". They'd still be there playing if SE hadn't screwed up the game the way they did with those expansions. I'd be right there along side them.

For me, XIV doesn't even hold a candle to XI - even early on. Yoshi-P is quite dead-set in following the WoW-style Themepark path (per his own say-so). As long as he sticks to that, the game will never have the depth, variety or soul that XI had. For one, he'd have to drop the "strong guidance" (his words) - aka 'handholding' - and let players become more responsible for finding their own way around, rather than just mindlessly chasing arrows and quest markers. And  you know that's never going to happen.

FFXI was amazing for its time.  I spent 2 years playing and loving every minute of it.  I tried to go back and play it, I wanted to rip my hair out.   

Fair enough. The game wasn't as deeply rooted in you as it is in others. That doesn't mean their memories or longing for the game can be dismissed as "rose-tinted glasses". 

Sorry for the rant, but I really hate that "rose-tinted glasses" argument. It is presumptuous in the extreme. You aren't them. You don't know what they remember, or how they remember it.

 

 

A lot of the reason why I left XI was 24 hour camping spawn times with 5% drop rates while contending with botters and almost everything had to be done in a group to name a couple. That being said I played it for 5 years and XIV could use some things from XI like lower lvl gear meaning something at higher lvl and enemies aggroing from sight, smell, and sound  also maybe more of the elemental wheel. To me if they put the two together right it could be a really awesome game. I am enjoying it alll and all though.

ESO

ARCHAGE

FFXIV

DARKSOULS 2

DIVINITY ORIGINAL SIN (if it comes out 2014)

 

Yeah just take a break and come back to the game come 2.2 or 2.3.
For the price? Absolutely. However if you don't like gear grind ladder progression or at least in depth crafting you probably won't sub after the first month.
I used the walls in the arena to my advantage because there is line of sight if they can't see you they can't sleep you. Also I'm a bard so I zero in on black mages and silence them when I see them cast sleep then beat them down.
Not an mmo but here http://www.divinityoriginalsin.com/news.php#news_197 this looks very promising.
Merry Christmas everyone!!
Originally posted by Viper482
I guess the claims of this having an "old school feel" to it are bullshit lol. No way in an old school mmo would you not only be maxed out this quick, but have no many maxed out toons. I know these are all the same toon, but same concept.

Well if your talking about grinding for 6 months to a year to get one character lvled or camping mobs for hours and hours for drops that have a 5% chance then you can keep that "old school feel". The way it feels a little old school to me is how you have to unlock a lot of content by quest, fates and so on before you gain access, XI did this a lot back in the day. I know other games do this a little as well but not even close to as much as XI or XIV.

Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by free2play

Originally posted by Hyanmen

Originally posted by free2play That's just the Land, not the house. That will cost you more. My "out of my Butt prices" were based on combined Plot and House rates. If the blind, fanbois at least tried to see the frustrations of people who don't sit in the top 1% maybe they wouldn't have to spend all their time on a forum doing spin doctor damage control. The 2.2 million from Leve Quests was based on a level 45 Armorer High Myhril Armor, triple turn in. If you have 100 points and 900 HQ High Mythril Armor and you turn it in, you will get 2.2 million Gil in Leve rewards. I didn't mention you will also need over 10,000 shards, insurmountable quantities of Mythril Ore converted to Ingots, then Plates. Electrum and the fact that Bango Zango is in the lower floor so about an hour just in load screens when combining the 100 trips up and down the stairs. Feel free to call my bluff any time.
We can take this bit by bit if you so insist. The graph shows 625 million gil for the 1st class large plot on the most hyperinflated servers. Somehow 175 million gil found their way out of someone's butt to the calculation (butt * 10^3 / inflation rate * 0.03 + trolling bonus (=random) = 175 million gil = price of a house). To those who don't know, this is the butt theory of trolling sciences (a branch of sociology). Just to state the obvious, we are talking about the plots aimed at the top 1% while plots costing a fraction of that sum are abundant. I am replying to a guy frustrated that he can't access the plot aimed at the 1% however. He isn't happy with his 99% plot because he is entitled to the best plot. If he can not get it, nobody can. I certainly hope it's a bluff. Otherwise it would be simply incredibly stupid and pathetic. But let's not go there. Oh now wait a second - you're telling me that you don't get that 2.2 million a month just by drooling at the monitor? You need to work for it too! What an outrage! Forget everything I said before, grab the pitchforks and I'll bring the torches! We're off to Tokyo.
Congratulations on making this a personal attack, flame war.

 

The larger community has shown that most FC's are at around 50 players and the 20 Mill for bottom of the barrel opening line, just for the land is out of their reach.

Yes, yes,yes, we know. Disband your FC, merge with 9 other 50 man FCs all because SE need to have hyper inflated FC houses. Because FC's aren't social communities unless they make fuck tons of money for SE or any other game company. They are just a burden when they are small and inclusive.

 

On the crafting, I spend ALL my crafting time making gear for leveling members. Whole sets of HQ from level 15 upward. So they enjoy the experience. It's done for free. I wasn't really expecting to need to Gil whore from day one. My mistake. It won't happen again. SE want Gil whoring people in their game? I'm in. I will get an FC house for my FC. The best one I can Gil whore between now and the end of January. Then I can go find a real game to play, not work at like a job.


 

Well they said since beta that housing was going to be super expensive so if it was so important that it would be something you would rage quit over, maybe do some research before hand.

 

Yoshi said that it would take the combined gil of a few people leveling to 50 three or four times. Well, if you take every single Allagan currency as a quest reward, you get around 300k, so let's assume 10 people level to 50 three times. You barely have enough gil to buy the cheapest lot. I really don't know why anyone is trying to defend these prices.

SE made housing more of a hardcore grind than they did endgame progression raiding. It's absolutely retarded. 

Pretty sure he was talking about personal housing could be wrong though. When he talked about saving I don't remember it being among a few people and it being FC housing but please correct me if im wrong.

Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by drivendawn
Originally posted by colddog04
So, once you get this small house, do you just put furniture/trophies in it and look around at your stuff or is there some other purpose?

You will be able to summon your retainer there, have a teleport crystal and in the future have things that buff your xp and other things like crafting possibly as well.

Can't you just craft anywhere you want anyway as long as you have the mats on you? Can't you just summon your retainer usually in close proximity to the inn room in the cities next to the bank? I guess a teleport would be nice, but travel only costs a small fee (especially when considering that someone has 20 mil lying around) to go anywhere.

 

I don't know, I thought there would be more to it especially for such a steep price and time investment. It is instanced housing, right?

Well there eventually will be chocobo raising and airship building as well but hey not everyone will think housing is worth it.

More like a like lotro's housing with 30 houses not just a single house per instance.

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