There is no difference between a normal launch and this open beta. More and more f2p games do this, its clever, because quite a lot of people in here still believes its still beta. But its beta in name only. Just compare this launch and its features to any other normal launch.

Do your research and use your head, there is no justification to call it beta and hide behind it.

No I'm not saying the launch was bad or good, or anything about the quality of the game.

Remember the april fools joke a few years back with the pandarians?

I wouldn't rule it out, although extremely far fetched.

I was part of that guild, and still is.

Maybe things changed over the last month or two, but two months back, I barely saw 10+ online.

50+ online is still too low imo, but it seems odd that they merged the servers, if the server actually doubled++++ population the past month.

So we are lead to believe the alliance would help the rebels vs garrosh? Why exactly? What would the alliance gain by this? Imo it feels incredibly forced.

The alliance should and would probably just sit idle by and watch them crush eachother, then wipe out the winner.

Sigh.

Sooo very tempting and with no sub right?

Vive la Norway, time to support my country!

I'm sorry issues like that is hampering your experience and ability to enjoy the game. It certainly is possible to get stuck and to swim under the world. But it is not exactly common, but I understand your point although your are exaggerating a lot.

I'm in no position to tell you what to like and play, but I just don't understand how such issues really matter, I mean its such a minor thing that rarely happens. Or maybe I'm just so used to it I don't really care anymore. In the big picture I just feel its, not that important, but thats me.

Oh but the STAIRS, that annoys me greatly, and I find it hard to believe its not been fixed. Because that seems like a more simple issue to fix than getting stuck certain places(which happens in every mmorpg I've played, yes including wow) or swim under the world.

Its just the long ass stairs you get stuck in, and how often do I really encounter them? Not very often so again, annoying and certainly dumb yes, but does it affect me much ingame? Not at all.

I played the beta and at launch too, and I would suggest that you two are flat out lying, but who am I to argue your opinion.

A lot has changed since release imo. From bugs, performance to class balance and or revamping. But mainly after the transition into f2p, vanguard have overgone an overhaul, if you cannot acknowledge that, I find it very hard to even have a civil discussion as you two clearly have not touched the game in a very long time.

Its fine if you do not like the game, many people do not like the game. But there have been many changes and most of them positive, thats just a fact.

Ah yes love the idea. There are tons of dungeons I have not explored yet.

I have a level 10 Ranger that would be willing to join.

Originally posted by Dirkin

Just a note about the expansions comment:

 

Vanguard will never get an expansion because they made the choice in the beginning to release all new content for free as game updates. You will never have to pay anything for new content, and there is new content coming. It's not like the game hasn't had new stuff added since 2007.

I guess the update with a new dungeon doesn't count. What a load of horse shit. Why would you comment on something you clearly don't know anything about ?

Trollbane has been completely dead since I last played, maybe 2 years ago. There was maybe a handful of ally people online on average - the horde side was no better afaik. How do I know this? Well I still kept contact with many players in the guild even though I stopped playing, I also read the forums a lot. And nothing, nothing every happens. Its a damn shame blizzard refuse to do anything about dead servers like that, they are indirectly forcing you to either start over on a different server, which is bullshit for most players, seeing as they can have up to 10 level 85-90 on their now dead server, or spend a LOT of real money to transfer them.

At least they could offer to move all your characters for that outrageous fee they claim for one character transfer.

It boogles the mind why they refuse to do anything, its not like this is something that happened recently, its been YEARS. Yes MOPdid make a few come back, but the server is still in piss poor shape, and it only gets worse every month. And there are many servers like this, its crazy unfair, and I wish more people would pay attention and pressure blizzard into taking action. Its just unacceptable and disgraceful, but people dont care as long as they are not the ones left alone.