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Originally posted by iixviiiix
Originally posted by Thane
Originally posted by iixviiiix

Well , i don't know where to start.


Most new MMORPG (specially WOW style MMO) use stats to add the special stats like % critical , evasion , block . ect

For example , more STR = more % block , agility add % evasion ect ...

But in some older MMORPG i played , those stats base on item.

For example , leather armor with low defend have high % evasion stats or dagger have more % critical than mace.


Personally , i prefer olde way design that the % base on the gears and not basic stats relate. But i interest to see the though about old way and new way design of those % stats .

errrmmm. no idea why you mention WoW as opposite example here, but WoW items come purely from items too.


so what exactly is your point here again? that they add STR and AGI and co too?

afai remember the items in DAoC did exactly the same... so as said above, not sure what you are trying to point out.

Basically the topic is compare between % stat that grow and not grow .

I just (wow style) because most of those game use that type of % stats , it not direct to wow itself.

For example , in those game , the gears base stats + 20% evasion .

At level 1 same gears , the basic stats (STR AGI INT) is low and the evasion base = 20%

At max level same gears , the basic stats high and the evasion base raise to 35%.


In case % stat don't grow with the basic stats , the evasion rate at level 1 = max level = 20% . No change.


uuuh, gotcha. well, basically that's normal RPG behaviour, raising your char stats with level, and the idea is directly taken from DnD.

ofc they handle loot and stuff differently, but the idea aint too new actually.

but i see what you mean now :P my bad for not getting it.

Originally posted by iixviiiix

Well , i don't know where to start.


Most new MMORPG (specially WOW style MMO) use stats to add the special stats like % critical , evasion , block . ect

For example , more STR = more % block , agility add % evasion ect ...

But in some older MMORPG i played , those stats base on item.

For example , leather armor with low defend have high % evasion stats or dagger have more % critical than mace.


Personally , i prefer olde way design that the % base on the gears and not basic stats relate. But i interest to see the though about old way and new way design of those % stats .

errrmmm. no idea why you mention WoW as opposite example here, but WoW items come purely from items too.


so what exactly is your point here again? that they add STR and AGI and co too?

afai remember the items in DAoC did exactly the same... so as said above, not sure what you are trying to point out.

uh and just for the record, WoW was playable COMPLETELY alone too while leveling.

so wtf is your point?


i could level daoc alone too, neocron the same, so actually, it's like this since 2k.

so, what's your point here?


that you have friends who you wanna wait for, so your leveling takes twice as long? :)

Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by Rhoklaw

solo friendly atmosphere. Heck, I even solo'd hard instances or group instances with little to no problem, 

All I needed to know.


yea, gl soloing group instances and not squad inis :)

squad instances scale from 1 to 3 players, grp instances do not.


and there goes your horizon and all you needed to know.

Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Only place this brings enough players companies make money is survival games like H1Z1. Most of the market is made up of casual players and I dont see this being an option any more. Unless some niche crowdfunded game looks to grab that small % of players that like this feature. Even then, survival games have most of that type of player already playing a game. Only way I would play a game like that is if there was no levels and gear held little meaning. 

yep, totaly wouldn't work on hack n slay games.


uh wait, yes it does, we call it hardcore mode.

there is an offensive description for that phenomena, one you won't like.


noob filter :)

you don't like it? fine, leave it. 


seriously, i am so sick of people asking "how to unlock classes" or "what's up with those followers an adepts!?".

you got bored by a game in early game already? assumption: it's not meant for you.


i really enjoy playing skyforge atm, unlocking new skills and talents for my class, leveling through new inis and areas.


seeing all those points mentioned above, all i can think of is a spoiled chiled crying over everything and everyone bc they can't entertain em.




P2W or cash-shop intensive. (Archeage)

Too grindy for people who don't have maybe that much time to devote to a single game. (Aion, ESO)

Not enough Freedom of choice or very linear questing. (Any themepark)

Nothing new. (World of Warcraft)

Single Player/hub based. (Skyforge, Neverwinter)

Action combat with limited abilities. (GW2, Wildstar)

Boring uninspired PvP (Rift, FFXIV)


you guys must be fucking kidding :)

ofcors they are not, but in the first week, when you try to reach the class you actually WANT to play, they quite frankly are :)

sooo, after giving RSI 85 million dollars without even being close to alpha....

you complain about games that actually went into retail? :)


that logic overhelms me.

Originally posted by Ikeda

What Nan is telling you is to sit and twist.  Never mind that you were in game a while ago.  (I was in Alpha/Beta too)  Nevermind that you supported it.  Hell, nevermind if you're a paying customer because they don't seem to be having it any better.

They're just going to tell you the 30 minutes isn't really 30 minutes.  Or that when it says 300 minutes that's wrong.  Then you'll sit there and wait for 2.5 hrs to play the game and that's normal too.

That isn't normal.  It's not right.  And in this day-and-age we should have gotten past the same crap as WoW from over a decade ago.


P.S. Nan, before telling people to report it... take a look at the policies of Trion.  You cannot post on their forum until you're a specific game level (Meta level 2 I believe).  I know I'm level 7-8 in the game and I can't get to post on there to share my issues.  Imagine how many others can't as well.


so, which part you didn't get? :)

since we STILL use the same network technics, ofcors it didn't change.

they can do whatever they want, they can't fix certain ammount of players.


as you have been told above: "if you cant take the heat of a new MMO launch, dont play them.", ty. you dont NEED to play games as first, let em fix it and come back after

Originally posted by Nanfoodle
This is the growing pains of any MMO launch. This has been the standard way of things for 17 years, so if you cant take the heat of a new MMO launch, dont play them. Wait 1-3 months and things will be stable and fine. This is not new. 


Originally posted by Wizardry

Sandbox ...WAY over used term.

Sandbox as of now is misused in a way that simply states it is  NOT a Themepark but that does NOT auto make it a Sandbox  either.

A sandbox has to have the tools for the players to create the game/universe a game like Eve does NOT do that.

An example of a true Sandbox would be UnrealTournament because you play on private run servers where you can actually do whatever the heck you want with your server.If you know some C+ you can go in and change ALL of the parameters of the game,the stats , healing,movement speed,physics you can change the maps as well as add new assets etc etc.

Bottom line is there are no such true Sandbox games out there especially not in the MMORPG genre.

PVP is NOT a sandbox aspect it is simply a Flag you can give players to flag them destructible and how much of a  damage thresh hold.

The best you can hope for in games is ZERO HAND HOLDING ,no cheat aspects like add-ons and radar and lock-on just the players and their skills and hopefully some nicely laid out maps that make for some quality combat.


actually a SANDBOX does not need a modable engine, it needs a "modable world".

and that is not achieved by recoding it or by using tools to mod the world, doom was no sandbox game, doom was a shooter - but maybe one of the heaviest modded around.

the game that comes closest to the term sandbox is obviously minecraft. no mmo in the usual sense tho.

errrr. okai. i just wiki'd derek smart and quite frankly. who is that guy?
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Thane
errrrrm... just sayin, Jamyl is NOT a player char, she is the amarr god-empress.

Correct. Max Singularity is a player. 

errr. yea, i remember that one. max sinularity VI. first of his name, never got how a sixth can be first :P

but i guess that was the plan.

keep in mind guys, the pve crowd conciders "unwanted open pvp" griefing :)

explains the comments of the last pages.

errrrrm... just sayin, Jamyl is NOT a player char, she is the amarr god-empress.
Originally posted by delete5230

If I were a Billionaire, and had more money I can handle or spend, my down time inbetween doing all the real cool stuff Billionaire's do would be making an MMO on the side.


Now, I'm not a programmer nor would I bother going to school for it ( Billionaire's don't need to go to school ) BUT I would have the best team of programmers on this Earth.  I would buy them an MMO building and pay them well with the best hardware and software money could buy. 

I hate what marketing had become.  HOWEVER, it would be different. Their job would be keeping the public informed and paint an exciting picture of what they can expect.  Full of unimaginable features......Difference being, it would be TRUE....Infact the game will be way better than what is told......Treasures everywhere !


Things I would insist on at our monthly round table meeting would be :

- No cash shop ever.  $60 for the game,$15 a month.  Being a Billionaire why so much ?.........All profits would be directly reinvested back into the product. 100% to insure updates and expansions.  The money would steam roll in because were talking about the best mmo ever.....The product will eventually pay for itself ten fold.

- Fast production, no 7 years in the making.  However it will take time no matter how large the developer team. Even dough I'm a Billionaire, I have to be realistic.

- Graphics.  It's getting downright silly trying to make mmo's with maximum realism........Billionaire or not there is a limit. Graphics would be World of Warcraft quality or LOTRO......100% concentration on making a cool game with a cool world, with a lot of cool stuff to do.......Any thing else would be wrong, period !......If a percentage of the player base refuses, then they could take there power stations and look for something else, good luck :) 

- Huge world, Open world, Non-instanced world....Not much time needed on this topic.  Being a billionaire, you could just imagine what I would do :)

- Completely solo game....Completely group game.....And everything in between game.  Why?....Because it's Huge !!!!!!

- Dungeons and Raids at all levels.  Deep ones.  No small ones, if you don't like it then kiss my butt.  I'm a billionaire !

- 3 Factions, 10 starting areas for each.

- Classes, 20 classes or more.  Also, I would search the world for the most open minded thinker to develop even more. 

- Fantasy, well that sounds boring :(...........Well, remember I talked about re-investing all profits ?  One Expansion would be a space ship to take you to a SiFi universe to start over.  And I'll have that open minded thinker guy invent other cool stuff that I'm unable to come up with :)


Please feel free to add more features you would like to see.  Remember I'M A BILLIONAIRE, WITH A LARGE BUDGET !

just sayin, a programmer does not make games, he writes the code for games :)

a gamedesigner or the producer "makes" it, most likely the second.


but yes, if i had the cash, i'd start to build a team right away


so far it's the combat system, it's refreshing compare to the usual tab target systems.

the skilltree / ascension atlas is also really crazy... guess it will give me something to do for the next time :)

Originally posted by Abuz0r

1) Nobody was max level.

2) You shared your account with 2 ppl so as a team you could have the best character.

3) If you died you were so screwed.......

What else...?

1) alot of people were max lvl

2) accounts were shared between family or friends because it worked (usualy everyone had his own tho, they kinda fixed that after or with daoc)

3) yes. dieing should not be ... a break but a pain in the ass :)



they are a sales plattform. they do not judge or rate games, if they would, people would bitch again because it's censored.

seriously, who forces you to buy bad games? that's like saying you won't allow choc icecream because you don't like it.

too much drama about that from him imo.


and sorry, after he raged like 60% about steam, i didn't expect it to get better. 

seriously. mr OP....

i don't think eve is your game. it's a sandbox, you can do whatever you can do.



[mod edit]

CCP won't run around and punish people for griefing, because THAT is what lowsec is about.


suggestion: next time: don't leave highsec.

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