Originally posted by RZetlin

The problem is Darkfall does not meet the definition of a sandbox game.

An example sandbox game is Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. In Elder Scrolls IV the NPCS have their own duties where they get up from bed, go to work, and the go home at night. You can start conversation with the NPCs and make them hate or like you.

From the beta video I saw, Darkfall is a world filled with a random lone mob that you kill. There are no NPCs that does their own routine. There are no NPCs you can talk to and form a relationship with.

 

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* Likes the idea of finding a mob in the middle of nowhere, and having no idea how powerful it is, and can only guess based on its name and appearance.
* Is HUGE on exploration...as in walking/riding aimlessly looking at the map and thinking "hey there may be something cool like an underground clanstone or interesting cave', and then telling your guild how you found this amazing spot.
* Is looking for a crafter's wet dream mmo in terms of the economy and demand (not necessarily the mechanics of the actual crafting).
* Enjoys player driven content.
* Guild v Guild politics
* Realistic gameplay environments (having to scan the horizon when you turn a corner...actually being able to duck behind some ruble in a city when being chased then run up some stairs to avoid 10 people trying to kill you and being able to escape vs. having a big green name above your head and being locked on to magically).
* Likes exploring...oh did i mention that? well DF exploration is that rewarding.
* And a ridiculous amount of sandbox elements i cant get into

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Most of the stuff in your list does not have sandbox elements. This is a list of gameplay features that 99% of other MMORPGs have out there.

So by your definition, a Sandbox MMORPG is not driven by the PLAYERS themselves but by some NPC's mood?

Go play Oblivion.

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Arcken

What WoW did was turn baseball into wiffle ball.
 

 

 

Which makes a lot of sense when you consider not everyone can be Barry Bonds. Not everyone wants to be either. Damn Blizzard for considering what the player base may actually need instead of a few disgruntled nerds want. Why would they do such a thing? Oh yeah, to make money.......

 

Yes, because making money is the most important thing.

Disgruntled nerds? Again validates my point that WoW has brought more disrespectful young people to the genre than anything else.

Blizzard is still a company as far as I know. You know what company are here for, right ?

Tell Jacobs that if his game storyline was about pink horses and fairies he'd have 10 millions subscribers within the first few months, he'd be shutting down WAR the next day and making sure that every single employee is working on pink horses and fairies MMO.

One word for me : WoE. I do not play anymore, but it was the best thing ever introduced in a game with such design.

I don't get it... Normally a "stress test" it's for testing the server's capacity, I don't think they will test anyting good. I mean, some people will prolly pay for playing "7day before the OB", but not that much.

See you on OB.

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