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Originally posted by umcorian
Originally posted by Righteous_Rock

I don't like ESO so I won't be playing it, but this bothers me because I don't want any kind of momentum shifting towards this kind of business model. I really only want two options. 1. Buy to Play or 2. Sub to play - micro transactions all together could disappear and I would be happy.

This horse in the cash shop (side note... Box price and sub fee and cash shop?) at any rate this horse, did everyone that pre ordered already know about this? Or did this just come out today as a surprise? 

This really could be considered pay to win in some regards. Have a mount is an advantage as one become established in an mmorpg.

The following isn't directly related to ESO just a rehashing of the robbery imposed onto gamers.

Part of the reason I hate f2p is because I don't like surprises that are tempting me to dip into my pocket book. These video game companies really got you by the balls, you can be so addicted and dedicated to their game, and at any given moment they add a watchamagadget that you can't live without for $20.

We've also got games releasing with half the content they should have because the other half was held back for a $15 DLC

 

 

Excellent post.

It is a little concerning how willing people are to part with more and more money over games they are excited over.

I mean, I'm not poor - the difference between a $60 and an $80 isn't much to me. But I also don't want it to become acceptable for the situation you described. TESO makes out like a bandit here, using a F2P Cash Shop format in a P2P Subscription model... it's just a bad thing to see get momentum. 

You are living in a fantasy world if you think sub games are going to be $15 forever. B2P games make their money off of the cash shops, so not sure how your theory would work here.

 

Its either they hike up that price for a sub or sell crap in a cash shop to make other profits. Imagine the first game that will come out with a $20/month sub fee or even $25 and the shit storm it will cause, I can't wait. I would be happy to see the cash shops die also but the majority seem to think it is a great idea. Spending an extra $20 on a CE I will already have a horse so I don't care if they put it in the cash shop for others to pick up.

Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by CazNeerg
Originally posted by Knotwood
They should Fire Matt Firor and put Paul Sage in his place.

We only know what they say publicly, we have no idea what goes on internally.  So attributing this decision to any one particular individual is a little unreasonable.

Ive watched enough of their videos to know it was Matt Firor's decision.   Paul Sage is probably hiding right now and refused to say this.

 

Keep also in mind that Matt Firor is the head of the entire show, what he says goes or doesn't go also.

I doubt it, I think Paul is the bad guy. Maybe it's Konkle, he is not to be trusted either though. Shady peeps working over there.

Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by umcorian
Originally posted by infiniti70
Originally posted by Fearum
This site is full of Drama Queens. Its a f*cking mount, you can buy them in any game with a cash shop, sub or not since WoW introduced them in 1978.

No problem with the mount, just take away the speed boost from it and make it cosmetic...problem solved. 

+1.

New players don't get 17k gold very quickly. It's one heck of an advantage to have at the starting gate because you paid $80 rather than $60. 

Get a better job I guess, not sure what to tell you. The last few MMO's I have purchased Digital CE all came with a mount. I don't know man, you are out numbered in your protest. They are selling like hot cakes.

Of course their selling like hot cakes! LOL Who wouldnt want an edge, even for a few days, in any game.

Hell yeah, who the hell wants to waste 17k gold and time on a mount you can get for a few bucks. I don't see this edge though, there is no mounted combat and the thing is slow as balls.

Imperial Horse

Info: In-game reward for players who bought Imperial Edition. Same characteristics as Common horse.
Price: 1 gold
Speed: 15%
Stamina: 10
Carrying: 0
Color: White

 

In PvE, all you need to do is LOS a mob, your out of combat. One sec to cast. Hot key is H. and your gone.

So you're concerned about the mobs not catching players?

In PvP. you can catch players with your 15% speed buff. or run away if you cant win.

 

It takes like 2 hits to knock someone off their mount. I wouldn't worry about it.

Originally posted by Knotwood
They should Fire Matt Firor and put Paul Sage in his place.

I don't know man, I don't trust Paul Sage. He gives off bad mojo.

Originally posted by BatCakez
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by umcorian
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by umcorian
Originally posted by infiniti70
Originally posted by Fearum
This site is full of Drama Queens. Its a f*cking mount, you can buy them in any game with a cash shop, sub or not since WoW introduced them in 1978.

No problem with the mount, just take away the speed boost from it and make it cosmetic...problem solved. 

+1.

New players don't get 17k gold very quickly. It's one heck of an advantage to have at the starting gate because you paid $80 rather than $60. 

Get a better job I guess, not sure what to tell you. The last few MMO's I have purchased Digital CE all came with a mount. I don't know man, you are out numbered in your protest. They are selling like hot cakes.

Of course their selling like hot cakes! LOL Who wouldnt want an edge, even for a few days, in any game.

Hell yeah, who the hell wants to waste 17k gold and time on a mount you can get for a few bucks. I don't see this edge though, there is no mounted combat and the thing is slow as balls.

It's 15% faster than not having one, I believe. It's a mechanical edge.

The question, as it's been pointed out, is whether or not it's a Mountain or a Molehill - and I'm fine with saying this is a Mountain. I believe a pay-to-play, subscription based game selling mechanical edges for an additional premium - no matter how slight or temporary - is a huge no-no. 

I could careless and just think its funny to mess with you guys freaking out about it. Taking Drama Queen to the next level on a non-issue that has been universally -----> excepted <---- for many years.

You mean, 'accepted'.

Yes, thanks!

Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by umcorian
Originally posted by infiniti70
Originally posted by Fearum
This site is full of Drama Queens. Its a f*cking mount, you can buy them in any game with a cash shop, sub or not since WoW introduced them in 1978.

No problem with the mount, just take away the speed boost from it and make it cosmetic...problem solved. 

+1.

New players don't get 17k gold very quickly. It's one heck of an advantage to have at the starting gate because you paid $80 rather than $60. 

Get a better job I guess, not sure what to tell you. The last few MMO's I have purchased Digital CE all came with a mount. I don't know man, you are out numbered in your protest. They are selling like hot cakes.

Of course their selling like hot cakes! LOL Who wouldnt want an edge, even for a few days, in any game.

Hell yeah, who the hell wants to waste 17k gold and time on a mount you can get for a few bucks. I don't see this edge though, there is no mounted combat and the thing is slow as balls.

Imperial Horse

Info: In-game reward for players who bought Imperial Edition. Same characteristics as Common horse.
Price: 1 gold
Speed: 15%
Stamina: 10
Carrying: 0
Color: White

 

In PvE, all you need to do is LOS a mob, your out of combat. One sec to cast. Hot key is H. and your gone.

So you're concerned about the mobs not catching players?

Originally posted by VoreDock
Originally posted by FlyByKnight
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by FlyByKnight

Can one of you rich young mogul MMORPG playboys explain to me what is the purpose of a subscription model if you have a nickel and dime cash shop on top of that?

 

If they want more money from people why not absorb the cost into the subscription?

 

Or sell some f#%king t-shirts and coffee mugs or something?

http://store.bethsoft.com/apparel/mens/t-shirts.html?brand=166

There is a T-shirt for ya.

Yeah a mount in the cash shop, its the end of the world. Soon we will have a max level toon for $60, whats this world coming too...

 

But the subscription is for what? Oh and YES, its all about that lone single mount in that itty bitty teeny weeny cash shop that's not going to sell anything else that should be covered by the subscription.

WOW the GREED is unmatched each new AAA game the greed is more over the top  this is what's wrong with gaming today  and it's like the housing boom that killed the eccomeny  this  will blow up too 

That's a bit a stretch, now if they were selling skill points I would be OUTRAGED! and could say that GREED would be UNMATCHED!

Originally posted by umcorian
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by umcorian
Originally posted by infiniti70
Originally posted by Fearum
This site is full of Drama Queens. Its a f*cking mount, you can buy them in any game with a cash shop, sub or not since WoW introduced them in 1978.

No problem with the mount, just take away the speed boost from it and make it cosmetic...problem solved. 

+1.

New players don't get 17k gold very quickly. It's one heck of an advantage to have at the starting gate because you paid $80 rather than $60. 

Get a better job I guess, not sure what to tell you. The last few MMO's I have purchased Digital CE all came with a mount. I don't know man, you are out numbered in your protest. They are selling like hot cakes.

I'm perfectly happy with my job, but thank you for the career advice. :)

Right on.

Originally posted by FlyByKnight
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by FlyByKnight

Can one of you rich young mogul MMORPG playboys explain to me what is the purpose of a subscription model if you have a nickel and dime cash shop on top of that?

 

If they want more money from people why not absorb the cost into the subscription?

 

Or sell some f#%king t-shirts and coffee mugs or something?

http://store.bethsoft.com/apparel/mens/t-shirts.html?brand=166

There is a T-shirt for ya.

Yeah a mount in the cash shop, its the end of the world. Soon we will have a max level toon for $60, whats this world coming too...

 

But the subscription is for what? Oh and YES, its all about that lone single mount in that itty bitty teeny weeny cash shop that's not going to sell anything else that should be covered by the subscription.

Its going to sell the account upgrade to get the unlock for the imperial, a horse and probably some other cosmetic crap. 

Originally posted by infiniti70
Originally posted by Fearum
This site is full of Drama Queens. Its a f*cking mount, you can buy them in any game with a cash shop, sub or not since WoW introduced them in 1978.

No problem with the mount, just take away the speed boost from it and make it cosmetic...problem solved.  Players can even pay 17K to boost the speed = to in game mounts. 

What is this speed boost you are talking about, have you been on a mount yet? They are slow as hell and you have to level them up by feeding them. It cost gold and time to feed them.

Originally posted by FlyByKnight

Can one of you rich young mogul MMORPG playboys explain to me what is the purpose of a subscription model if you have a nickel and dime cash shop on top of that?

 

If they want more money from people why not absorb the cost into the subscription?

 

Or sell some f#%king t-shirts and coffee mugs or something?

http://store.bethsoft.com/apparel/mens/t-shirts.html?brand=166

There is a T-shirt for ya.

Yeah a mount in the cash shop, its the end of the world. Soon we will have a max level toon for $60, whats this world coming too...

This site is full of Drama Queens. Its a f*cking mount, you can buy them in any game with a cash shop, sub or not since WoW introduced them in 1978.
I wonder if I can buy another horse and feed it something different to make it maybe a pack mule. I already have one horse from the CE, probably gonna make it a fast horse.
As of right now there is really no choice for that specific type of game. There are a couple in development that look interesting, but they are still being made, so who knows how they will end up. The only thing to do now is troll forums about the current type of games or find another hobby until those types of games exist.

No

D3 was fun about a week then I never touched it again.

Anytime you make a single player game that has been single player only forever into a multi player you will get a few butt hurt soldiers calling for the end of the world. Even if on the ESO website if they put in huge text THIS IS NOT SKYRIM COOP as the header people would still bitch and moan. Its the nature of man, always has been always will be. 
Originally posted by Giffen
Everyone is getting it.

lol.

If a game is F2P, I don't bother even dling it. I look at them as crap that they can't sell so they try to give it a way for free. As soon as I see F2P it turns me off completely, I'm sure there are others like me out there as well that also think its lowering the bar with all the focus on selling crap in the cash shop.

I think its good that companies that choose to go this F2P route are in trouble, they should make a game that people want to pay to play instead of play to pay.

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Bannuk
Originally posted by Grym
Originally posted by DMKano

You can't compare a shallow crafting system in ESO to one of the best crafting systems ever - SWG.

Let alone a themepark based game vs a sandboxy game.

C'mon, apples and oranges.

Sorry dude, just lost credibility when you state ESO crafting is shallow.  By making that statement, I'm not sure you tried the crafting for any length of time.  I admit I never played SWG, so I can't compare the two styles.  However, I did ESO crafting for two full beta periods and was impressed with the level of complexity.  You can't just sit down and craft whatever you decide to make without researching traits, tempers, materials, styles, etc.  The crafting system in this game will take many many hours to master.  Your criticism, in this instance, seems uninformed.

Just because it takes hours to research does not make the crafting deep and complex, just time consuming.

Ding ding ding!

To Grym - I lost credibility but you admit you never played SWG hence you don't understand how shallow ESOs crafting is in comparison.

Hehe, dude its shallow, because 99% of all MMOs crafting is shallow in comparison, ESO is no different.

Get it?

 

SWG was such a great game they had to shut it down because people wouldn't stop playing it.

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by kkarrabbass
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by kkarrabbass
 

Why should I believe this guy (GoldenTiger)?

Is he a god?

Didn't I hear a lot of "strange things" before?

What has changed now?

Because he is a closed beta tester with reliable information track record so far - aka a solid source.

Is he a god - that is a really weak attempt to discredit anyone

What are you talking about? What reliable information?

You do not trust developers statement, but you trust some GoldenTiger, one of hundreds of closed beta testers.

It is just silly. You have no knowledge how reliable his information ever was except for comparison it with developers information. And now you intentionally ignore developers statement in favor of this nobody. Is he your brother?

I would say you have an agenda!

P.S. By the way, I trust in God! In god only. Don't you?

There are other closed beta testers saying the same thing - this is NOT the only source.

My personal beliefs are irrelevant to this discussion.

 

Who cares about your source, its pretty much been public knowledge to anyone following the game. Good job uncovering stuff we already know.

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