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Originally posted by Mackeh

Another game fail, honestly these devs should do their homework, WOW did open world where you could go anywhere in that world, it was immersive and real to your character.  This game will suck without the immersion of world pvp, half the fun is questing while keeping an eye out for the enemy and being ganked is part of the experience.

TESO is now joining the ranks of carebear MMO games to avoid.

 Thats a great post.  What games are you talking about that do open world PvP with great success and don't suck?

Originally posted by r3zs1ckn3ss
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by PyrateLV
 

Well then we do agree on something.

 

TES is simply a game I intend to try out, I am following The Repop because it is the game I want.

 That game looks quite boring. So I don't bother following it. Sci Fi is not my favorite type of game. Plus its F2P and I don't support those games because I hate the model.

You're just full of cheery goodness aren't you? You don't like F2P and you don't like sci-fi. But there are hyrbid F2P models that work and benifit both paying and........mooching players. Elder Scrolls in a sense has always looked "boring", but you don't appreciate any of them unless you actually play it.

 Its my opinion, since we are sharing opinions here. ES games are boring, I don't really like single player games. But I love the world of ES and look forward to getting into it as an mmo.

I don't care how you try to describe F2P games, I don't like it and think its the worst thing to happen to this genre

Originally posted by aslan132

Long post

 I'am looking forward to the game for both PvP and PvE. I only plan to PvP on my AD characters though. I will make DC and EP character and run through the story and check out the different landscape but thats about it.

Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by PyrateLV
 

Well then we do agree on something.

 

TES is simply a game I intend to try out, I am following The Repop because it is the game I want.

 That game looks quite boring. So I don't bother following it. Sci Fi is not my favorite type of game. Plus isnt it going F2P, I don't support those games because I hate the model.

I can't wait for some good ole faction rivalries. Hasent been any good 3 faction PvP games in a long time.
Originally posted by asrlohz

First of all "good for you that you are going into something that really interests you".

Secondly, I think you might find that the reality is different from the fantasy. Unless you are funding the entire thing yourself you might find that you can't call all the shots.

Heck, let's look at Curt Schilling. All he really wanted to do was make his "great game". But in the end, no matter the money he had, he cound't make solid business decisions and everything went bust.

It takes more than knowledge or even money to make a game. Sometimes you have to compromise.

heck, some of the plays I directed, where one would think I would have the ultimate say, ended up being lessons in compromise.

Sometimes it's like herding cats.

You might find that good intentions and a strong vision aren't enough. Then again, more power to you if you can make it happen.

Maybe this is the compromise where are trying to get them to realise? If they do acknowledge our petition it might be reason enough for them to make that modification, or atleast meet us half way?

Cheers to your thoughts though, helps to create a multi-perspective party.

 You don't seem to understand how games are made. Do you think they have some magic switch they can just turn on open world PvP and exploration with a seamless world and they are just not doing to spite people?

Originally posted by LadyEuphei
Originally posted by Rider071

You cannot regulate the internet, the moment you try, you will lose.

Same goes for the gaming community, that's the strength of it.

Trolls come in all forms, some are pure evil, others smile saying they are here to help. Regardless, you can't control either, only be entertained.

No regulation, just improving! We are healing not incriminating!

 Some times things can't be healed and just need to be put down.

Are you just talking about LoL? I don't play F2P games at all, well right now I don't play any mmo's. The last one I played was GW2 and never saw anything like what I see people writing about recently. Actually the worst game community I have seen is Darkfalls, they are full of "a-hats" ractist, homophobic and sexist players. But its a small community and has always been like that so not sure if that counts.
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Isturi

Now lets face it in my every so humble opinion. SOE I feel is not the giant it think it is in the MMO world and hey if F2P is working well for SOE then great, fantastic. Truth be told they will never keep up with the indrustry leader's that still use P2P format. I honestly do not see P2P going anywere any time soon.

 Now lets face it in my ever so humble opinion. Isturi I feel is not the informed person he thinks he is about MMOs, F2P or P2P. Truth be told, Nexon Inc is the second largest MMO maker on the planet and only one single game maker makes more in profits than they do, EA...and EA makes most of its money from its Console and single player PC sales...yet Nexon makes most of their money from F2P games.

Top population MMORPGs in history.

WoW

GW1

Lineage 2

Runes of Magic

Atlantica Online

GW2

Lineage

Vindictus

I honestly

2 subs, 2 B2Ps...the rest...F2P

I dont see how F2P doesnt continue to grow and take more and more business away from P2Ps which rarely last a long time before going F2P.

 F2P doesnt mean the game is any good, it just means its free.

 

 

To OP,...

You didnt quote him by saying that only about 10% of the 750000 actually spend money on anything in PS2, so that is alot of free loaders to carry for that 10%. And 10% isnt that much money unless they are spending whole paychecks. I doubt a AAA mmo sandbox game can survive long off of a pay scale like that.

How would boxing gloves and baseball hats fit into TES lore from the cash shop. How could the lore master add in lore about the oh so wonderful cash shop guild in the building next to the fighters guild.
Originally posted by Ambros123
Originally posted by superniceguy

Subsciption with Lifetime Subscription option.

If it offereed LT sub I would take it.

TSW LTers will vastly disagree.  LT subs are retarded as one can never know the future of a game.

 I don't think I would ever buy a LT sub, what happens if 1 year into the game they change a major core gameplay element you don't like so the game would be ruined for you? MMO's are always changing so a LT sub really doesnt make sense. 

Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by safire312
Pay as much, as u play, with cap payment method

 

Because a player who plays 400 hours a month might end up paying more than the original $15 a month and if you base pricing off of that much playtime then most players would be paying little compared to before.

I would suggest something like $0.25 an hour played per month up to say 60 hours and then it caps off at $15.


 

That model is very popular in Asia. Interesting how it can work in Asia but not other places..

 I would love that pay model.

Originally posted by Nitth

Guess i should express my thoughts to the origonal post..

I voted P2P i will always believe it will be the best option for the business provided that they have a good product to back it up.

Main Advantages for the consumer is Commitment.
In a P2P game you have to: Buy the game, Then commit to 1 month reoccurring payments. once actually in the game people are gona make a damn good go of it because they invested As opposed to a f2p or buy to play consumer that thought they would try it on a whim and quit in 3 days.

I guess you could argue that p2p customers could still unsub and end it all right? Its possible but from experience you will hear about their unpleasest experience until their sub time runs out unlike a f2p,b2p consumer who will just drop off the face of the earth.

I support B2P.
On paper it looks like the best option for the consumers, But in reality it has alot of downfalls that people don't immediately see. The main ones being that you end up spending more in the cash shop than a monthly sub. Lots of statistical studies have proven this to be true. along those lines the games are designed with cash shop incentives and finally the stuff i mentioned above about the low commitment level and they "easy way out" without saying anything to the community or guilds.

I will pay for either p2p and b2p models as long as the product is good.(which is up for speculation atm)

Not everyone is going to agree on this but its my view. I also believe its strongly tied to people perceptions nowdays about what mmorpgs are: a game or a service.

 I agree with everything you said, except I don't like cash shops. Its funny how so many people like B2P but nobody supports the game by buying anything. The game will eventually run out of money or not have enough coming in to make anything going out if nobody buys anything extra.

Originally posted by Total_Hunt
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by Nitth  

Originally posted by Istavaan The sub model is dead, this game will be B2P.
  The more you say it doesnt make it true.
You only have to look at recent and upcoming releases to know it's true.

 

You only need 1 successful P2P title to prove that false.

 There are plenty of F2P games that these free loaders can enjoy, why do they need another?

How exactly is b2p free loading?

 Why arent you playing a B2P game now. You have a few choices, are they not good enough to keep you playing?

I am playing a b2p game at the moment.

 How much have you spent in the cash shop if any at all?

I haven't spent anything in the cash shop.

 Yeah thats what everyone says here, but some how these games continue to go on with no other income than a box price.

I can assure you that most GW2 players don't lurk these forums. 

 

I haven't spent a penny either, not even on bags / bank space.

 So you support B2P but you don't buy anything to support the company for making the game B2P. This seems odd.

Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by deakon

Yes people will zerg but there will be more than one battle to zerg, and the chances of all 3 factions all zerging the exact same objective with 100% of their forces at the same time is very unlikely

 I have half a mind to try to convience my entire guild to get this game and plan out to get 300-400 of us to ALL ATTACK THE SAME PLACES to ruin as many of your experiences as possible for defending this idiotic plan of theirs with such a blind defense. The game is in BETA, NOW is the time to wake them up to this fact and get them to CHANGE it before its too late.

If an idea is bad, SAY ITS BAD, dont defend it just because you may or may not like the game as a whole. It IS OK to say you like 95% of a game and still speak out about the 5% you DONT THINK IS A GOOD IDEA and this is NOT a good idea. They are making the entire game around these central PvP zones which makes it the single most important aspect of the game...to have 2000 player cap, yet limit what can been on screem to 200 smacks of a very large WTFH kinda stupid idea is this?!?

Once very large guilds learn of this cap, they WILL EXPLOIT IT by having their people stay together and let OTHERs take the other objectives...

And once again to everyone else...this is NOT an OPEN WORLD GAME. They are calling instances CAMPAIGNS, changing the word instance to something else does not change the fact that it is INSTANCED.

 Your large guild would lose everything else in Cyrodiil if you all go to one spot, so that tactic is not really viable. So your not ruining anyones game playing like that, your actually helping the enemy by playing bad.

Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by Nitth  

Originally posted by Istavaan The sub model is dead, this game will be B2P.
  The more you say it doesnt make it true.
You only have to look at recent and upcoming releases to know it's true.

 

You only need 1 successful P2P title to prove that false.

 There are plenty of F2P games that these free loaders can enjoy, why do they need another?

How exactly is b2p free loading?

 Why arent you playing a B2P game now. You have a few choices, are they not good enough to keep you playing?

I am playing a b2p game at the moment.

 How much have you spent in the cash shop if any at all?

I haven't spent anything in the cash shop.

 Yeah thats what everyone says here, but some how these games continue to go on with no other income than a box price.

Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by Nitth  

Originally posted by Istavaan The sub model is dead, this game will be B2P.
  The more you say it doesnt make it true.
You only have to look at recent and upcoming releases to know it's true.

 

You only need 1 successful P2P title to prove that false.

 There are plenty of F2P games that these free loaders can enjoy, why do they need another?

How exactly is b2p free loading?

 Why arent you playing a B2P game now. You have a few choices, are they not good enough to keep you playing?

I am playing a b2p game at the moment.

 How much have you spent in the cash shop if any at all?

Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by Nitth  

Originally posted by Istavaan The sub model is dead, this game will be B2P.
  The more you say it doesnt make it true.
You only have to look at recent and upcoming releases to know it's true.

 

You only need 1 successful P2P title to prove that false.

 There are plenty of F2P games that these free loaders can enjoy, why do they need another?

How exactly is b2p free loading?

 Why arent you playing a B2P game now. You have a few choices, are they not good enough to keep you playing?

Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by Istavaan
Wow went 8 months without any new content updates, so 8 x 15$ = no content.

 I would rather a game rob me right up front with a sub than try to be sneaky about it with crap from a sub shop.

at least you have a choice to be robbed or not.

How so? 

If the games time requirements are increased to funnel you to the cash shop, then you've been robbed of time. 

If the games fun has been locked behind a pay wall, then you've been robbed of fun. If both are to harsh and you leave a game you would have otherwise have liked, then you've been robbed of a game. 

 

Though, cash shops like TSW, GW2, and PS2 aren't bad at all and some that I can live with. These however are not the standard when it comes to cash shops sadly. 

The same thing applies sub-locked games.  If you don't pay extra for the Rift xpac you are left behind.  They gate and lock instance rewards to require you to sub longer.  They implement artificial time sinks to ensure your recurring fee is in place.  P2P games are just as "pay to win" as most B2P or F2P games.

I voted B2P, but any sub-free option would be good.  TSW has a great hybrid model.  I also like the B2P model in GW2.  I like how STO has it's F2P set up as well.

The longer I go without sub-locked games the more convinced I am that I won't rent access to a game again.  I've spent over $300 in Rift and when my sub ends in March/April then all that will be down the drain.  I spent $60 on GW2, $30 on TSW, and $20 on Tera.  I haven't spent over $100 across all my games in the cash shop for the last year.  I get to enjoy those games and access the content I paid for (without requiring additional fees) until they close the servers.  No P2P game offers that and none of them offer me a better experience for the heavy restriction of paywall access.

 So you just want another game as a notch on your belt until the next thing comes along. Thats a valid reason. I still perfer a sub, I have the money and don't mind paying to play a game if I am having fun. If I stop having fun I stop paying the sub.

Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by Nitth  

Originally posted by Istavaan The sub model is dead, this game will be B2P.
  The more you say it doesnt make it true.
You only have to look at recent and upcoming releases to know it's true.

 

You only need 1 successful P2P title to prove that false.

 There are plenty of F2P games that these free loaders can enjoy, why do they need another?

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