Steam says Pre-purchase, not pre-order.

There is stat progression. It starts at level 1 and ends at level 80. After that there isn't any.

Originally posted by fivoroth

I really hope much more effort went into the game than this trailer. This thing is horrible. Aren't trailers supposed to get you all excited about a game? This trailer fails miserably and it has the opposite effect.

Its not a trailer, its the opening cinematic to the game.

It means I won't have to stop doing what I want to do because I outleveled it and all that is left are dailies and raids.

Originally posted by Stimos8

Yeah understandable but heres the thing, you would be surprised how many people see it the way i do, the majority of Mmo players, just saying that in a few months i dont think there will be many people playing it. And yes there are other games that do this, unfortunately i would hardly call wow one of them... giving out gear and not obtaining it to do the next raid etc... is worse then no gear at all. Because it removes previous raids and contents from being needed/ done. Even if Gw2 is a Pvp based game, it would still get boring to do the same thing over and over hitting the same every time, not balancing out stats etc...

As I said earlier, if you want a gear grind then go play something else. Guild Wars 2 isn't about gear grind and the people who want to play it are the people who DON'T want a gear grind. Stop asking for it, threads like these only devolve into flamewars.

Originally posted by Stimos8

Alright, well as the title sais and whats already known is that everyone will have virtually the same gear at endgame, however they will be able to change the appearance etc...

 

Well heres the problem, alot of people, like myself love the gear grinds at endgame, infact thats what i mainly play MMORPG's for, definitely not for the leveling... So what will endgame be like? how will you get rewarded, competition for the most gold or? what singles out each player, i mean its a "semi-action" based combat game, so its not going to be solely based on skill, like Tera. Personally because of this fact and a few others i will most likely not bother playing this game, and move onto a more interesting game such as Tera.

 

So heres the thing, will we just level up and be bored? what happens at endgame? i can only see the same gear slightly benefitting pvp, but having absolutely no advance on Pve, i mean whats the point if you dont get rewarded? every player being similar makes no sence, people play Mmorpg's because of that main difference you can gain against other players, because of how it feels to win that awesome weapon etc....

 

Open to views here, if anyone has an other opinion, feel free to say, attempt to convince. Because, at the way the game is looking now, its going to need to be one hell of an arguement.

If you want a gear grind then this isn't the game for you. The easiest thing right now is to admit that and go look for another game that does have it. May I suggest WoW?

It was already posted here a while ago.

And its "biscuit" not "bisquit". Don't know why people make that mistake but its rather annoying.

Fun, friends, new content and any old content you haven't seen yet.

I agree that doing the same stuff over and over is boring, but you're probably going to end up doing that more often in a game built with the idea of progressive raids and PvP that are based around getting better gear.

A new build creator has been added.

There used to be but that was taken out recently.

WvWvW has it though, you get a statistical boost to level 80.

Structured PvP also has a similar system although it isn't just a stat boost as you get access to all traits and skills.

Wow. There's some nice pieces in there that I haven't seen anywhere else.

I'd have to say this one

http://kekai-k.tumblr.com/post/20939006262

is my favorite considering it's the finished version of a piece that I like on his website.

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Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by wrightstuf I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Hate to break it to you but you can't beta without pre PURCHASE = no cancel of purchase because its not a pre order and if you pre order you don't get into beta.

 

and yes there is a difference between pre purchase and pre order.

Actually you can. Pre-purchasing only guarantees you access to the public beta events. You can still gain access to the beta events even without pre-purchasing, it just isn't guaranteed.

Are you trying to tell me that pre order gives you access to beta?  from my understanding the only way you gain beta access with any type of game purchase, pre order or pre purchase, is from pre purchase.   I've read in many different places that you do not gain anything concerning the beta from pre order.  

 

Pre purchase = guaranteed access to beta

Pre order = nothing concerning beta??

There is no pre-order.

Pre-purchase guarantees access to all public beta events.

Not pre-purchasing means you have to get a beta key in another way. Most likely in a give-away or if ArenaNet sends it to you personally.

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by wrightstuf I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Hate to break it to you but you can't beta without pre PURCHASE = no cancel of purchase because its not a pre order and if you pre order you don't get into beta.

 

and yes there is a difference between pre purchase and pre order.

Actually you can. Pre-purchasing only guarantees you access to the public beta events. You can still gain access to the beta events even without pre-purchasing, it just isn't guaranteed.

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