Originally posted by Shadowguy64

Originally posted by kevjards

Having took the time to read up on this I decided to login and have a go at the game.after 5 mins I gave up and decided this fiasco has ruined it for me.decided to uninstall and that's me done..i cannot believe they are refusing to do a wipe and start again.what gets me is there will be loads of honest people feeling the same..has always the fucking low lifes ruin it for others.they are not happy getting a game for free with no sub fee they have totally destroyed the fuckin economy.

if they do a wipe I may come back but only if its a wipe.roll back is no good especially if the length of time this has being going on.

 

Interesting, since none of the exploits could possibly affect you in your first 5 minutes of gameplay. Literally ZERO effect,.

I have a lvl 40 GW..i meant that after I found out about what was going on m8 lol..the game is great..I love the combat but they have let it go to ruin..sorry I should have made my post clearer.

Having took the time to read up on this I decided to login and have a go at the game.after 5 mins I gave up and decided this fiasco has ruined it for me.decided to uninstall and that's me done..i cannot believe they are refusing to do a wipe and start again.what gets me is there will be loads of honest people feeling the same..has always the fucking low lifes ruin it for others.they are not happy getting a game for free with no sub fee they have totally destroyed the fuckin economy.

if they do a wipe I may come back but only if its a wipe.roll back is no good especially if the length of time this has being going on.

Originally posted by ragz45
Won't fix crap.  It's like giving a flu shot for an Antrax outbreak.  It will make it "appear" as though you care and are trying, when in fact won't do shit.

well at least they are doing the right thing..might piss a few peeps off.has for the exploiters..i doubt anything will happen.

We took the Neverwinter OBT down for emergency maintenance, found the bug, corrected it and tested it. In order to fix the damage this exploit caused to the in-game economy, we implemented a necessary rollback of our servers to 5:20 AM PDT the morning of May 19, 2013. This means that characters have been reverted to the state they were in at that time, pre-exploit damage. That includes items, level, experience, etc.

We know that character progress matters in Neverwinter, so as an apology for the lost time and as profound thanks for your continued support throughout this Beta, we are putting together a package of items to give everyone. We plan to distribute this towards the middle or end of this coming week, possibly on Friday 5/24.

dunno if someone has posted this.but here you go

 

Originally posted by Calerxes

With the recent layoffs over at Trion Worlds and the not so good performance of Defiance does Trion Worlds have the capacity of manpower and funds now to finish a proper translation of Archeage for the west?

 

I personally think no and another publisher will have to step up (wait thats the title DUH!). The conversion of Rift will likely get some interest from ex-players and people who haven't played before but as the game is really outdated and mediocre (personal view don't shoot me) this interest will be very short lived and the game will sink back to its present situation quite quickly.DEfiance seems to need a lot of work and is not creating any real buzz with the TV crowd.

 

As a fan of Korean and Asian MMO's I'd like to see this conversion done properly and not rushed and with the lackluster performance of Trion Worlds games Rift, Defiance and the shelved End Of Nations this might be the case to try an inject some needed cash into an ailing company. 

 

 

 

 

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your maybe reading too mch into the layoffs at trion..its inevitable that companies lay off people after release of a game..they always downsize.its too early in defiances release to come to a conclusion if its a failure or not..i suppose time will tell.

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by kevjards
anyone that is having trouble logging into game I have a work around for you..at login screen change language..let it initialise wait 15 secs then change language back to English and that should do it..worked for me and my brother..i know some peeps are still having problems but the above will work for you.

 Turbine launchers have always been total Garbage!

I could play DDO for years, then suddenly this year the launcher stopped working. Just hanging at either "Initializing" or "Waiting" . Clean reinstall didn't work either anymore.

Now I run into the same problem With LOTRO launcher.

I have no problems With all the other games I have installed and play.

I just gave up on turbine's games.... have no energy at the moment to spend hours making their stupid launcher work. Getting tired of it. Especially since reinstalling the HighRes Client litterly takes ages as well. Then not even talking about their Clients always a couple updates behind, so you spend a long time updating as well, if you can even get past the initialzing / waiting issue.

Mehh.... so many other MMO's out there (GW2, EQ2, etc) that are fun to play and just work!

 

get what your saying jero..it does piss you off a bit.

Originally posted by Ukiha

Hey guys/gals,i'll get to the point,since it's late night.

Ok, so here's my story:i'm having a BLAST playing Neverwinter with a friend of mine,beautiful atmosphere,nice graphics for an old engine,good action combat....disgusting....community?

Why disgusting? you may ask?,well here's what happened.I'm level 55 Trickster Rogue,my friend is the same level,Guardian Fighter class(yes, he does not have any problem tanking,actually he can tank perfectly in dungeons).We wanted to join a level 55 dungeon,which is the one from Underdark.

We entered,we said "Hi/Hello".Nobody said a single WORD(not the first time that happened in the game).Ok....We began working our way into the depths of Underdark,until the Control Wizard from the party charges alone to a cluster of mobs without letting the tank go first(EVERY CW with i've been with has done that),then,OBVIOUSLY he dies in a matter of seconds.Thanks to him we almost wipe.

Words of the CW:fucking idiots attack

Me:finally someone decided to talk

CW: shut the fuck up kid

Ok....i know where this is going...we continued like nothing happened there(of course no one said a word after that).We arrived at 1 of the bosses,killed him,a rare dagger (blue)level 56 dropped,but the Cleric of the group decided to press the need button.

I asked him/her why did he/she need it,the answer was: "mine lol".After that i told him/her need it more than him/her,since i have a level 46 green dagger and obviously,i'm the only rogue on the party.And yeah that's called a ninja...

The next answer was: oh the drama right? lol

Friend of mine: What the fuck are you doing? give the dagger to my friend,he needs it more than you do

Me: it's ok, this is like playing with bots lol

No response after that.Ok,i understand that he/she may be want the dagger for selling it at the AH,but where's the "kindness" in this party? i mean,i would let the rogue have the dagger if i were the Cleric.

After all that, we finally get to the last boss, we kill him,i leave the party without saying anything.Of course, they don't deserve any "goodbye" or anything like that.

I log off the game after that(2:35 a.m),when my friend tells me via Steam,that this guys started telling him this:

Player:does your gay friend wants the dagger? i can give it to him.NOT

Friend (he was still in the party): "so you got a blue dagger. please type it in your curriculum, and  tell it to your mom, so you can get a cookie"

He got insta-kicked.

So what i'm saying is this: WHAT THE F00K?. I've never seen a behavior like that...not even in GW2(and no, i don't play WoW since 2008). Is this is what i "missed"?....holy shit...

If this is what the furure holds in Neverwinter..well...time to say goodbye,if i want to play with bots, i'll play Dragon's Dogma..thank you very much.

PD:It seems i did a wall of text... oh well.. i hope you guys enjoyed.

 

tbh this is what you get when you don't have a sub based community and a f2p game that was handed to people like candy at no cost.literally anyone can d/load and play this game.chances are you got some nerdy 10 yr old lol.been in a couple of pugs in neverwinter myself but have not come across that type yet..no doubt I will.i just leave the party and look for another one.one thing  will say..don't let the twat put you off enjoying a good game.

Originally posted by Daranar

Originally posted by Gnarv
To me it is also a jewel. But alas the masses have spoken and what they wanted, and time revealed it was not VG, was Theme parks. They wanted easy, predictable, accessible, less time consuming design that in the end demands less of the gamer. The gameworlds themselves die, they loose their mystery, we know what is comming around next corner, and why should we care? Whatever we find will be something that we will be able to run over blindfolded, and if a miracle should happen and we die, then we respawn 5 yards away - and this time there is just no way you will make that huge a mistake. 

I could not disagree more.   Numbers at launch for this game were huge, because alas the masses spoke!  This is the kind of game we wanted!   All of us of swarmed Telon and were indeed met with a wonderful game,  I would argue one of the best worlds since the original Norrath, however it was so deeply masked and hidden behind spiderwebs of bugs, poor optimization, numerous crashes, and oh yeah, a barebone dev team just months after launch.   Unlike games now where people spam general chat about how terrible the game is before they rage quit, the common ringing in my ear (err chatbox) was how terrible the optimization was and the bugs, and the stabilization of the client.   The classes were the last in-depth classes we have seen in MMOs, one of the last games to feature over 10 uniquely different classes at launch (not SWTOR's 4 cloned classes to call it 8).   It had everything we always are whining and begging for on these forums....except for a half stable launch.

If this game proves anything, its not that we want theme parks like WoW, it is that a botched launch and poor optimization can utterly ruin a game right out of the gates.

I agree..on launch there were about 500,000 people bought this game and it had tons of servers..only problem was the game was broken..most of the stuff didn't work..saying that though..the world was beautiful and huge.its an explorers paradise.the crafting was amazing and still is..the character models were bad but you could tolerate that because of what the game was.i would dearly love for someone to make a game like this again with so much depth..and completely open world.

Originally posted by koboldfodder

Vanguard was doomed from the start.  There were some serious problems going on behind the scenes.  What was miraculous was that they actually got SOE to outright buy Vanguard.  SOE already had one flop-fest on their hands with SWG and it looked like the just bought another one.  That, and the fact EQ2 was barely saved, really made SOE look bad.

 

They actually turned Vanguard into a solid game.  Obviously that never translated into any tangible sales.  This is the game people point to where you can say "you give a MMO a month or two and once people leave they do not come back".  People usually came back to SWG because it was Star Wars.  No one came back to Vanguard.  It's dead Jim.

 

Vanguard was more similar to original EQ than any other MMO at that point.  That was the whole point of the game, to go back to what original EQ did so well.  Depending on groups.  You could solo some (now you can solo up to the highest level) but back in the day you really had to group or it was slim pickens.

 

Vanguard had severe technical problems that rivaled SWG.  Actually, those problems outdid SWGs problems because they actually fixed that game.  They never really fixed Vanguard.  They had to re-do some of the graphical meshes because they really messed up performance.  The races sort of changed, it was not as customizable as it was on release. 

But there were two problems that game had and still has today.  The chunking problem (when you loaded different areas) was an eyesore as well as the object loadings in view.  It was very small and things would just pop into view right in front of your eyes.  The game does not hold up well today, unlike other MMOs of that era.

 

But if you could get past the technical glitches, you had an excellent game at its core.  Three ways to level.  Adventure, Craft or the totally unique (and awesome) Diplomacy.  Sure, the crafting and diplomacy were not finished until much later but it was a lot of fun to be just a crafter or diplomat.  Vanguard crafting is still one of the great crafting systems in any MMO.  It is not on the level of SWG or EVE or Horizons, but its only one step lower.

 

But the true greatness of Vanguard was the class system.  It had, and still has, some of the best classes and class mechanics of any MMO.

 

And the best was the healers.  Up to that point, playing a healer was awful.  Vanguard made healers fun.  The Blood Mage was a squishy, cloth wearer who had unique heal/buff transfers.  The Shaman was a wonderful class, alot like WOW's Druid/Shaman classes.  The Cleric was the standard heavy armor wearing cleric but could actually tank a bit.  And one of the great MMO classes of all time was the Disciple, a monk/healer hybrid.

 

No game since has had as good healer classes as Vanguard, not even close.  The other classes were very well done, but the Healer classes were s stroke of genius.

 

Boats, three big continents, open world housing also were there but other games had those.  You played Vanguard because you wanted to be challenged like you were in EQ.

 

 

totally agree..I would love to see this game made again .same areas ,same classes,same races,same starting areas.but it will never happen..had the best 2 yrs of my gaming life playing this game..which for me was a miracle considering I wanted to play this after getting sick of WOW.

I was kind of hoping eqnext would be like this..well it might be in difficulty but that will be the only thing that's the same.

Originally posted by dasX82
This game has a severe balance issue, healer that get insane aggro, guardian that are not able to manage aggro or even do DPS. The game is fun so far, but i leave it for now till they address those issues.

yeah agreed..i have a guardian fighter and healer companion..i can mark a mob and keep the agro on that one..then taunt the others but within 2 secs i've lost the agro again..it seems to be enough atm..but i,m dreading getting to 40+..especially if i cant lvl my companion any further than 15 atm..he will get buttfucked in 2 hits later on.