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Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I personally have no investment in TESO other than to sit on the fence and wait this out. If after a few months, TESO still has the majority of it's subscribers staying on-board and are happily playing, then I'll buy the game. I've been in too many new releases where the game looks great at 1st but then at endgame, falls apart. So for me, and those like me, I want to evaluate everyone's viewpoints. I want to see what players have to say that's great about TESO and what players are saying is wrong with TESO. Ultimately, I really do want to play TESO, but not if I'm not going to be playing it long term. There are better short term games if I will only play for a month or 2. So, this thread is of interest to me.

However, what I am seeing a lot of, are people  trying to "expose" the OP as having an agenda against TESO. That is nothing more than a collective Ad-Hom here. And historically, speaking, when I see Ad-Hom against an OP, it means someone doesn't know how to deal with the OP's statements. So, the best way to "expose" the OP is to prove him wrong. Otherwise Ad-Homs actually support OP because it is like saying.

"Oh he's at it again, I can't deal with this. I wish he'd just shut up and go away."

 

Personally, I don't care what his personal view is, but if there is data that shows sales trends, that is important be it positive or negative.

Your last sentence is basically what any game comes down to for anyone. All games eventually just turn into niche fan based games no matter the sales numbers. SWTOR, GW2, FFXIV:ARR, and now ESO are all just going to be fans of those games. No matter how bad others trash games, and fans defend them, it all comes down to the individual asking themselves if they are having fun or not. 

Originally posted by Aroukos
I m not playing it but its always nice to see new games going well. GZ

I agree totally! I had fun the month or so I put into it. It's a good mmorpg, but it just didn't hold me. I may go back and play a few weeks and see if it grabs me again! 

I don't know if it is or isn't. I couldn't get past DAoCs terrible movement and control system. I did watch my son many times and it looked very fun though. Kudos for you that stuck with the system long enough to get into pvp. I'm liking the pvp in ESO, I'm just not loving the campaign balance.
Originally posted by Ticonz
Originally posted by junzo316

I really wasn't impressed with the graphics.  I found other games, as mentioned above, to have better graphics.  I loved the graphics in FF14.  Simply beautiful.  And I'm still in love with the landscape of LotRO.

 

Agreed.  FFXIV and Archeage look great... Black Desert looks even better... just my opinion.  Im glad you like TESO's graphics... I dont' think they are bad but not great either... I do enjoy the lighting!

Ya, the water looks pretty good too. 

Originally posted by Yoda_Clone

It's in MMORPG.com's advertising contract to call every game "amazing" at least once a week, I'm sure...

If I want honest opinions, I never go to this site's formal reviews and commentary.  They have no credibility anymore.

I agree. In fact, if there is a game on this site being trashed it is usually a good game and that is the one to buy.

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Amjoco
 

You only did number 1 of defense. 

5. to support (an argument, theory, etc.) in the face of criticism; prove the validity of (a dissertation, thesis, or the like) by answering arguments and questions put by a committee of specialists.

First of all its against TOS to use posting history of others as an argument.

Secondly stating facts could be called defending but you have to see it in the context it was presented.

You defend the game regardless of whether other person is presenting facts or not. You just simply do not like crticism of ESO..the guy you quoted thinks SWTOR is a horrible MMO and yet defended the fact that its not like TR in terms of end game. Now if he defends every criticsm of SWTOR valid or not then yes you got a point other wise nope.

 

I don't want to start a debate with you, but do you have the information about your first sentence? I have seen many people do this and found nothing in the Rules of Conduct. 

I'm done. 

Originally posted by Tygranir
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Tygranir
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
No, if this isn't defending your point, than it is supporting him? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1466582/page/2

I am so confused right now. I also posted this..

Originally posted by Zalmon
If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.

You are trying too hard to get back at me.

I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.

Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.

Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.

If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.

Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.

I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?

And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)

Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?

Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?

"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.

SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."

My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.

Not to agree or disagree with anything, but the yellow text is nothing but facts.

And in any court it would be defending.

de·fend

 

di?fend/
1.
resist an attack made on (someone or something); protect from harm or danger.

"we shall defend our country, whatever the cost"

 
What did he defend? All he did was state facts.

You only did number 1 of defense. 

5. to support (an argument, theory, etc.) in the face of criticism; prove the validity of (a dissertation, thesis, or the like) by answering arguments and questions put by a committee of specialists.

Originally posted by Tygranir
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
No, if this isn't defending your point, than it is supporting him? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1466582/page/2

I am so confused right now. I also posted this..

Originally posted by Zalmon
If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.

You are trying too hard to get back at me.

I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.

Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.

Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.

If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.

Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.

I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?

And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)

Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?

Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?

"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.

SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."

My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.

Not to agree or disagree with anything, but the yellow text is nothing but facts.

And in any court it would be defending.

Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
No, if this isn't defending your point, than it is supporting him? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1466582/page/2

I am so confused right now. I also posted this..

Originally posted by Zalmon
If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.

You are trying too hard to get back at me.

I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.

Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.

Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.

If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.

Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.

I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?

And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)

Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?

Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?

"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.

SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."

My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.

Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
No, if this isn't defending your point, than it is supporting him? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1466582/page/2

I am so confused right now. I also posted this..

Originally posted by Zalmon
If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.

You are trying too hard to get back at me.

I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.

Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
 

lmao, you think people don't do other things than play games and visit a game forum in life? I'm not sure where you are from, but where I live we have freedom to do as we want. No, your meaningless insult is well, meaningless. 

Next, I'm not a fanboi. I love all types of games. If I dislike a game I simply don't visit that forum. However I will defend a game that I think is good and EOS is a good game.

Good games don't need defending. Good games speak for themselves.

This whole concept of being a 'defender' is just childish.

I come to forums to listen to various opinion good or bad...your whole reason of visiting forums is to 'defend' games. Maybe thats why when people talk negative about games i like it doesn't bother me at all. Try it sometimes it is quite relaxing.

Have you looked at your history? Last week you were "defending" SWToR. Kind of hypocritical aren't you?

Last week? you mean in 2013? hahah!!

Man you had to go really far in my post history to dig something up. And that conversation was to remove some mis conceptions about F2P model since the guy based his post on outdated info.

Nice try there bud but i would hardly call that defending. And yes i stand by what i said earlier. I find it really immature when people make sole purpose of posting on forums is to 'defend games'.

Good games speak for themselves.

No, if this isn't defending your point, than it is supporting him? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1466582/page/2

edit: I find it very immature when people have almost all of their recent history trying to discredit a game that has thousands of people enjoying it. 

Because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad game to many other people. We get your point, you don't like it.

Originally posted by ArChWind

The comic is probably spot on. No I don’t play this game because I have seen the previous ES games and know without a means to modify things the game will get boring in about a month or two just like all previous ES games.

Mods have made ES games what they are not the vanilla released versions. The poor combat mechanics, bad user interface and down right dull storylines made these games last about a month before I was adding mods or making my own changes.

I played Morrowind for a month before adding mods. In Oblivion I played a total of 80 hours through the main quest line before adding mods. I changed the combat animations and added better graphical armors. After adding numerous mods (about 30) I continued my Oblivion adventure for another 1200 hours of game play. The total time spent will the developers released version was 80 hours but the continued enjoyment was over 1100 hours.

In Skyrim I finished the main quest in under 20 hours and uninstalled it because it was rather dull and boring. There was not a convenient way to mod the game at the time since creation kit was released several months later so I went off to work on my own stuff. Later I came back and made a couple changes to the interface and added 88 mods that completely changed the game play and environment. Since adding the changes I can start in different areas, make my own useable gear, work dungeons I added and continue on quests that others have made. I have over 700 hours addition game play hours because of mods and still love the lore and open world feel that is not a boxed in zone.

If the developers wanted to really make a game worth its salt then they should have made this one multiplayer with capability for others to make and maintain their own servers with their own mods. Even paying a monthly fee for netcode access would have made it worth the price just to have the freedom to choose the best suitable server for ones play style.

As it stands here this looks like a great game for a month or two so it is not worth buying or paying a sub.

Skyrim was and still is one of my favorites of all times, but did you know most of Skyrims sales were to people who couldn't even mod their own game?  I do agree it would be awesome to mod an mmorpg, but it would be almost impossible to keep the game standardized for all players.

XBox 360 59 %
Playstation 3 27 %
PC 14 %
 
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Amjoco
 

lmao, you think people don't do other things than play games and visit a game forum in life? I'm not sure where you are from, but where I live we have freedom to do as we want. No, your meaningless insult is well, meaningless. 

Next, I'm not a fanboi. I love all types of games. If I dislike a game I simply don't visit that forum. However I will defend a game that I think is good and EOS is a good game.

Good games don't need defending. Good games speak for themselves.

This whole concept of being a 'defender' is just childish.

I come to forums to listen to various opinion good or bad...your whole reason of visiting forums is to 'defend' games. Maybe thats why when people talk negative about games i like it doesn't bother me at all. Try it sometimes it is quite relaxing.

Have you looked at your history? Last week you were "defending" SWToR. Kind of hypocritical aren't you?

Originally posted by Battlerock
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by NagilumSadow
Elder scrolls online has one of the better (perhaps "the best") combat system out there; if it didn't, I would be PvPing in Cyrodiil. End of story.

Gloria Victis... and it ain't even done.

While the game looks okay, I can't help but feel it will be nothing more than what MO turned out to be. Which if that's what you're looking for that's great. I have a hard time believing we're going to see any real kind of society form in it, given the lack of restrictions. The player police concept really never works, and they've been trying it since UO. IT's a system that supports the wolves, and like any other they'll drive away those they view as their sheep.

Donno how FFA it will be... my hunch is considering the existence of empires + territory control + a unique take on a death penalty is that it may turn out to be somewhat more non-pvp orientated player friendly than EVE-Online ( plus the combat system makes anyone that's actually every fought using its combat system a threat to a PVPer so outright ganks may be more difficult to pull off and could actually backfire ).

Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by NagilumSadow
Elder scrolls online has one of the better (perhaps "the best") combat system out there; if it didn't, I would be PvPing in Cyrodiil. End of story.

Gloria Victis... and it ain't even done.

Gloria Victis looks like an awesome game, but it isn't going to make it because of it's smooth combat system. 

Yup... deeper crafting, meaningful pvp, etc,etc on top of the better combat system.

Ya, right. Coming here with no real proof is very short sighted. Perhaps when the game actually comes out we can compare the two. 

You crusade around defending this game with less proof so your point, if it even exists, is ironic.

I have a lot more proof concerning ESO than you do of a game that isn't out yet. There are also thousands of people playing this game and I'm sure none of them have Gloria Victis experience. 

Wow... so to you the MMO population is in the thousands? (otherwise your last sentence isn't even valid)

Also as to your first :) waiting for them to put in crafting, already have access and toyed around with it a bit.

Huh. You make no sense at all. 

The can't be good, the fan boi that loves it here spends more time on the forums than in game. Why is that? Well real simple, the game just isn't good.

 

lmao, you think people don't do other things than play games and visit a game forum in life? I'm not sure where you are from, but where I live we have freedom to do as we want. No, your meaningless insult is well, meaningless. 

Next, I'm not a fanboi. I love all types of games. If I dislike a game I simply don't visit that forum. However I will defend a game that I think is good and EOS is a good game.

Originally posted by Coman
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by NagilumSadow
Elder scrolls online has one of the better (perhaps "the best") combat system out there; if it didn't, I would be PvPing in Cyrodiil. End of story.

Gloria Victis... and it ain't even done.

Gloria Victis looks like an awesome game, but it isn't going to make it because of it's smooth combat system. 

Yup... deeper crafting, meaningful pvp, etc,etc on top of the better combat system.

Ya, right. Coming here with no real proof is very short sighted. Perhaps when the game actually comes out we can compare the two. 

It looks promising, but no more or less then plenty of other games that promised the same. I donated though...not sure why I keep doing that. I guess one day one of them has to do it right :P

It's one of the games I'm really looking forward to! I'm older and I like games that seem to be more about rpg than the mmo. It looks like a good mix of the two. I do hope the animations get worked on more, I'm sure they will. 

Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by NagilumSadow
Elder scrolls online has one of the better (perhaps "the best") combat system out there; if it didn't, I would be PvPing in Cyrodiil. End of story.

Gloria Victis... and it ain't even done.

While the game looks okay, I can't help but feel it will be nothing more than what MO turned out to be. Which if that's what you're looking for that's great. I have a hard time believing we're going to see any real kind of society form in it, given the lack of restrictions. The player police concept really never works, and they've been trying it since UO. IT's a system that supports the wolves, and like any other they'll drive away those they view as their sheep.

Donno how FFA it will be... my hunch is considering the existence of empires + territory control + a unique take on a death penalty is that it may turn out to be somewhat more non-pvp orientated player friendly than EVE-Online ( plus the combat system makes anyone that's actually every fought using its combat system a threat to a PVPer so outright ganks may be more difficult to pull off and could actually backfire ).

Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by NagilumSadow
Elder scrolls online has one of the better (perhaps "the best") combat system out there; if it didn't, I would be PvPing in Cyrodiil. End of story.

Gloria Victis... and it ain't even done.

Gloria Victis looks like an awesome game, but it isn't going to make it because of it's smooth combat system. 

Yup... deeper crafting, meaningful pvp, etc,etc on top of the better combat system.

Ya, right. Coming here with no real proof is very short sighted. Perhaps when the game actually comes out we can compare the two. 

You crusade around defending this game with less proof so your point, if it even exists, is ironic.

I have a lot more proof concerning ESO than you do of a game that isn't out yet. There are also thousands of people playing this game and I'm sure none of them have Gloria Victis experience. 

Wow... so to you the MMO population is in the thousands? (otherwise your last sentence isn't even valid)

Also as to your first :) waiting for them to put in crafting, already have access and toyed around with it a bit.

Huh. You make no sense at all. 

Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by NagilumSadow
Elder scrolls online has one of the better (perhaps "the best") combat system out there; if it didn't, I would be PvPing in Cyrodiil. End of story.

Gloria Victis... and it ain't even done.

While the game looks okay, I can't help but feel it will be nothing more than what MO turned out to be. Which if that's what you're looking for that's great. I have a hard time believing we're going to see any real kind of society form in it, given the lack of restrictions. The player police concept really never works, and they've been trying it since UO. IT's a system that supports the wolves, and like any other they'll drive away those they view as their sheep.

Donno how FFA it will be... my hunch is considering the existence of empires + territory control + a unique take on a death penalty is that it may turn out to be somewhat more non-pvp orientated player friendly than EVE-Online ( plus the combat system makes anyone that's actually every fought using its combat system a threat to a PVPer so outright ganks may be more difficult to pull off and could actually backfire ).

Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by NagilumSadow
Elder scrolls online has one of the better (perhaps "the best") combat system out there; if it didn't, I would be PvPing in Cyrodiil. End of story.

Gloria Victis... and it ain't even done.

Gloria Victis looks like an awesome game, but it isn't going to make it because of it's smooth combat system. 

Yup... deeper crafting, meaningful pvp, etc,etc on top of the better combat system.

Ya, right. Coming here with no real proof is very short sighted. Perhaps when the game actually comes out we can compare the two. 

You crusade around defending this game with less proof so your point, if it even exists, is ironic.

I have a lot more proof concerning ESO than you do of a game that isn't out yet. There are also thousands of people playing this game and I'm sure none of them have Gloria Victis experience. 

Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by NagilumSadow
Elder scrolls online has one of the better (perhaps "the best") combat system out there; if it didn't, I would be PvPing in Cyrodiil. End of story.

Gloria Victis... and it ain't even done.

Gloria Victis looks like an awesome game, but it isn't going to make it because of it's smooth combat system. 

Yup... deeper crafting, meaningful pvp, etc,etc on top of the better combat system.

Ya, right. Coming here with no real proof is very short sighted. Perhaps when the game actually comes out we can compare the two. 

Originally posted by keithian

A lot of folks in this thread continue to be ignorant by assuming that if the same 25 people keep posting their dislike or that they think its a mess that the view reflects the majority when it does not. Every single poll that has been released in even these forums which have a huge sandbox following has been overwhelmingly positive of ESO. If it was an actually fan site, like Reddit, than it would even be higher.

The first few reviews on Metacritic have also been overwhelmingly positive. Of course the user reviews are going to be lower because everyone who dislikes it just puts a 1 for everything and that mathematically skews everything to around the 6-7.5 range despite the majority view. Its just their way of having fun since they aren't playing anything else that is doing well and they are bitter lol. Will we see some professional negative reviews. Of course.

I LOVED Captain America but despite the overwhelmingly positive reviews there will still be some with some negative ones and thats what opinions are about.

Oh..and Escapist has a history of reviewing MMOs without understanding how to review them. 

Agree with you. I come here to see what other ESO fans are doing. ie addons, dungeons, campaigns, ect. I'm dumb enough to get caught up in reading ignorant posts and trying to defend the game. I am not sure what they get out of it by upsetting people.

Originally posted by Rusque
Why would you want to play a game that is supposedly so terrible that it could not sustain it's membership?

I don't quite get the thought process that people have in that they want a game to do poorly so that they can play it without paying. It's even more bizarre when you have people saying how they dislike so many things about a game, yet will (and want to) play it if it goes f2p. Why?

Isn't your time worth anything to you? I don't play games that I have no interest in regardless of their cost.

Do you not realize that with your statement you're simultaneously saying that the game isn't good and will "fail" (in subscription MMO terms) but that you will then play it.

 

 

For some reason people use f2p as the equivalent of failing. If the game went f2p on release they would complain it should have went subscription.

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