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Originally posted by booniedog96

So like, isn't the CryEngine built with an emphasis on FPS?  You're saying that in the span of 2 1/2 - 3 years they couldn't get an FPS module working?  Not only do they not have any type of working FPS module but one that has been delayed indefinitely. 

 

Promises made can carry weight, but there has to be a point where we have to say, "OK breh, I'd you to refrain from blowing smoke up our ass and SHOW ME".  For many people, that SHOW ME point is over due.  If you take DSmart out of the picture, lets say the drama with DSmart never happened.  You'll still have a good number of backers that are uncertain about the ability of CIG/ Chris Roberts to deliver.  All they want is closure.

 

Some of these backers are old enough to have witnessed the Enron scandal, and it would help if they got some justification.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2013/05/14/enron-ethics-and-todays-corporate-values/

 

Here's a little snippet from the article:

"The company’s failure in 2001 represents the biggest business bankruptcy ever while also spotlighting corporate America’s moral failings. It’s a stark reminder of the implications of being seduced by charismatic leaders, or more specifically, those who sought excess at the expense of their communities and their employees. In the end, those misplaced morals killed the company while it injured all of those who had gone along for the ride."

So the current modus operandi is guilty until proven otherwise, eh america ?

 

Your forefathers would be ashamed of you.

They're not paid enough ? :P

 

either that or they are more civilized and productive/working members of society without time to waste on ego-stroking and trolling :)

 

It's a tough choice to decide between these 2 xD

I love the complex system (path of exile/final fantasy style) atlas is awesome, and character design is also great, and you can play as tryndamere essentially xD
Dual cores are useless now, by september 2016 they're gonna be extinct.

All the 3rd worst salvage parts are being made into Fury Nano, so going by this, there should be more Fury nano available for sale then there was fury x and fury pro now.

 

It's gonna be hard to tell when nano launches, if it's readily available and not out of stock because there's a lot of salvage chips or because not enough people bought them right away, but we'll still have a glimpse of the yields when nano comes out

with a 8300 you can delegate 4 of the cores to the streaming program, and 4 to the game, so you will have a much easier time streaming at higher quality, that's the only upside to taking the 8300 vs 6300.

 

Also don't listen to Gdemami, any i3 processor is a horrible choice.

Originally posted by Hrimnir

I understand that, but that module doesn't cost $100.  Nvidia is charging that much for the module, but it probably costs them less than $10 to produce.  Ridelynn made a great post.  The point i was trying to make is that the $150 price premium is only plausible right now because there is no market competition.  Once adaptive sync monitors start coming out, Nvidia will be forced to shit or get off the pot.  Like Ride said, they might be able to get away with a 20 or 40 dollar price premium, but certainly not 150.  My big concern because companies do this kind of crap in the enthusiast market all the time, is that rather than try to undercut nvidia, they will just sell their products at the same or similar price point to gsync so they can reap bigger profits.  The market has already proven that people will pay that kind of money for those monitors (look at me).  So why sell something for less than you could?

I don't know where you've looked at, but adaptive sync are already for a while, there's 2(+1 asus ips one not showing up for some reason) available on newegg atm, with additional six incoming soon.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007617%20600559798

 

and compare their prices to their gsync counterparts, the most expensive acer one doesn't count cause it's IPS, and all others are TN panel.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007617%20600559797%20600012694

 

that's $630 - $470 price difference for cheapest monitors coming to $160 difference which is a lot.

 

and the ips comparison is $600 for the one Quizzical linked in first post compared to $800 for gsync, which is $200 difference even more.

 

the only ips gsync on newegg : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009742

There's at least 10 or so cards with 3x8 pin i can think of atm.

And lets not forget 295x2 is known to use upwards to 600w when overclocked and in furmark and it does it with only 2x8 pin.

 

Heck i think there was 1 card that had 3x8 and 1x6 or 4x8 pin power delivery :)

 

And if u feel like no company would risk any of this on a reference card, don't forget, amd is on a roll of world firsts on a reference card a few years in a row now.

Funcom mmos are the best.
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Quizzical
How about if you read your own links before you post?  You just linked to a Fury X beating a GTX 980 Ti outright at 4K, but losing by more than 10% at 1080p.  Meanwhile, it beats the 290X by about 50% at 4K and 30% at 1080p.  That's exactly what I'm talking about:  the Fury X fares better compared to other cards at higher resolutions than lower.

 

...aaand we are back to making up stuff. Nice one.

I like how u use multiple logical fallacies and political grade misdirection :

So is guru3d at fault, i can continue providing you proof 15x times over, there's atleast 15 websites that did testing, and not to mention that even the links  you provided prove the same thing, only that their pictures are so hard to read, you would need to cut and resize, pull out the numbers and calculate % to show it.

And i applaud you for wasting your time to find the 3 websites on the complete opposite side of the spectrum to prove your false point, not like there's a huge driver and testing settings discrepancy between the results(that provides a small % wise fps difference) which you use to reinforce a logical fallacy.

Originally posted by JohnP0100
I guess even the diehard AMD supporters are resigned to the fact AMD is going to be bad for the next 12+ months.

Is that why every single AMD Fury card is sold out on the planet ?

It seems that i could be possible that none of the reviews on any review site before a few hours ago were done on the june20th 15.15 drivers.

Possible because maybe amd didn't release the driver anywhere nor to anyone before a few hours ago today.

 

Driver fun :)

Fury X tested with wrong drivers : http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/hardware-clinic-2/%5Bgpu-review%5D-sapphire-amd-r9-fury-x-rise-5087633-41.html

 

Graphs start at post 612, there's a 2 digit difference in the full name of the 15.5 drivers between these and drivers used by every other tester.

 

Oh and the card is out of stock everywhere it completely sold out in the whole world in 24 hours

Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hrimnir
I really love this post.  It highlights a lot of the "overview" stuff of graphics you've seen in the last few years.

 

I always use to explain to people that AMD tended to focus on the "brute force" hardware method of gaining results.  Whereas nvidia tended to use a little more elegant solutions but not have quite as much "brute force".  This has panned out exactly as you stated and has now become an issue of parallelization (sp?).  Regardless you pretty much said everything i would have said on the topic, just wanted to say i completely agree with it.


 

The problem is, there is no evidence for this part:

 


Originally posted by Quizzical

What makes me wonder about this is that the Radeon R9 Fury X performs about as well as AMD promised at 4K. But it performs much worse relative to other hardware than it does at 4K. It's not just relative to Nvidia; the same is true if you compare it to other GCN cards of the same architecture.


 

thus making this funny wall of text moot since it is based on made up stuff. Typical...

Fury X loss of performance with reduction of the resolution is based on empirical evidence, the only thing lacking empirical evidence is your assumption that the evidence is lacking.

Originally posted by MrSnuffles

 

AMD has made a crucial mistake and this is an amateur mistake which immediately disqualifies them for me.

They make a great card with high bandwidth memory which is exceptional for high resolutions especially 4K but these muppets include only 4GB of it. You can't run full steam when you do not have enough coal.

When you run games like Witcher 3 in 4K and see how the AMD FX drops to 4FPS because it runs out of memory while the NVIDIA 6GB cards chugg along nicely you can't but wonder what they where thinking at AMD when they designed this card. If you turn down some memory intensive options the FX is on par if not better than NVIDIA.

It's sad because they could have single-handedly taken the 4K market like a storm but they stumble on a rookie mistake.

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Maybe next time AMD...maybe.

Stop trolling max settings 4k witcher 3 doesnt go over 2.1GB vram, and amd fx is not a graphic card, admins pls remove comment, it's blatant trolling and baiting.

The pump noise is probably due to the pump not being set up properly rpm to temperature wise, it should not be present on retail cards, these are preview samples.

4GB is def not a problem, as the card shines best in 4k, it uses a lot less vram in 4k then any other card probably thx to some awesome driver optimization utilizing the huge bandwidth advantage.

I hope the horrible 1080p and bad 1440p are a product of this 4k optimization and will be fixed in next driver. For instance it gets about 0.75 less fps than a 980 Ti while using 3.9GB of vram compared to 980 Ti using 5.5-5.9 GB of vram.

However on another website in supposedly the same test it gets 20% less fps, and i think that's cause they cranked up AA on 4k which is pointless and just clogged the card. (+they used 14.12 and 15.2 amd drivers instead of 15.5 which were released specifically for fury, talk about intentional crippling)

Without AA and high anisotropic Fury X doesn't stop when it hits 4GB vram, unlike 970 :)

techpowerup sums it up the best: 

The good 

~ Great performance at 4K
~ Low gaming noise
~ Compact form factor
~ Low temperatures
~ Power efficient gaming
~ HBM memory, tons of bandwidth
~ Multi-monitor power consumption greatly improved
~ Backplate included
~ ZeroCore power
~ Dual-BIOS
~ Support for AMD FreeSync
~ Supports AMD Virtual Super Resolution and Framerate Target Control

The bad

~ Slower than expected in sub-4K resolutions
~ Pump emits permanent high-pitched whine
~ Some coil noise
~ Could be much quieter in idle
~ 4 GB of VRAM
~ Lack of HDMI 2.0
~ No memory overclocking
~ Radiator takes up extra space
~ No DVI / analog VGA outputs

 

The card performs way better at 4k than at 1440p or 1080p, lol, it's the anti-aliasing which is killing it, and half the benchmarking websites used 14.2/15.4 drivers. Still focusing on driver tweaking for 4k performance is not a productive thing.

Fury X average performance compared 980 Ti is exactly the same @4k and then it just drops at 1440p to about 6% and then an abysmal 14% difference @1080p, ...

Originally posted by laserit

Should be lots of info coming tomorrow as the press embargo lifts on the 24th

 

Healthy competition helps us all.

check out the other amd dirt 12k post i posted all the info and some test results there

Previous post was too long lol, system load with 4770k stock is 367w with 100 mhz overclock, which means it stayed on 275w with the overclock the whole time :)

 

I can just imagine how much headroom u have from 60c to ~85c, im hoping atleast another 150-200Mhz.

Originally posted by Classicstar

Wonder if Fury X beats my score at Unigine heaven DX 11 (probably fury x better with DX12)benchmark(no OC) 1755 points at 2560x1440p extreme ultra settings 8x AA fullscreen? CF 2X 290x?

Unigine Haven 4 score at all maxed is 1104 @1440p and a 100Mhz overclock ups the score to 1159

 

Score seems pretty small cpu was 4770k, but as i wrote in other thread it has exactly the same fps as stock 980 Ti  in shadow of mordor 4k for instance.

 

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