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This is sad news indeed, WoD was the game that could have shown them to not be a one trick pony show. Dust was a stupid idea and they were told so...it's sad they are canning WoD because dust flopped.

Pretty sure when eve goes CCP is done with as they are showing they can't do anything else but eve.

Goes like this,

water cooled change water now n then to keep it effective and not gross looking, keep eyes open for leaks and clean fans (dust)

air cooled clean out dust on both heat sinks and fans and filters if you have some.

Personally even with a mildly high OC you don't need water cooling unless you want it for the "cool glowy factor" and even then in hi OC builds you can get really good high end air coolers cheaply.

 

 

Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Asm0deus

You guys do realize it says CHARACTERS and not account right?     ...lol

 

Originally posted by Skuall

2,270,527 created

135,263 alts

2,000,000 no longer playing the game

lol

Fixed it for you!

 

Damn! That's a lot of alts... How do you multibox that many characters?! You must use http://www.olcf.ornl.gov/titan/ to play your games~

Haha!

You guys do realize it says CHARACTERS and not account right?     ...lol

 

Originally posted by Skuall

2,270,527 created

135,263 alts

2,000,000 no longer playing the game

lol

Fixed it for you!

 

I has  a sad :(

 

While this may be good for VR in general I can't help but feel it's bad for gaming and what the Oculus might have done for it.

 

Hope I am wrong.....

Facebook to buy Oculus Rift for 2bil$

http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2014/03/25/facebook-buys-oculus-virtual-reality-gaming-startup-for-2-billion/


In a Tuesday afternoon shocker, Facebook announced it is buying hot virtual reality gaming company Oculus VR for $2 billion. That includes $400 million in cash and 23.1 million shares of Facebook stock. There’s also an additional $300 million potential earn-out in cash and stock based on “the achievement of certain milestones.”

 

 

 

Originally posted by filmoret
snip.......... Just an example you turn the head to see what's behind you and turn right on the keyboard to level it out.  Now your real head is facing backwards and your character is stuck in that position.  To correct your head you look back forward and now your character is walkng backwards.

Hmm I don't think it will work like that, granted I haven't tried one but I think if  you turn your head so you see left it will only control the camera view, If you keep looking left and turn left with kb your char will turn left but your view will turn left too. that way when  you (physically look forward again) in game your view will align itself correctly with the character.

Eh PWE... enough said :/

Another article with some specs.

 

 

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Asm0deus
 

I do not care how you play your game if you enjoy to play that way it is your prerogative, it doesn't affect me. What does affect me is when you go on a crusade to try encourage and the loss of elements a genre is known for that I think is fun and essential.

Again I do not see why you would even want to play mmorpgs if you want to play solo and avoid others as you seem to be claiming.

And you have no way of stopping others to state their preference, even if you don't like it. Are you going to try to shut up people who like to talk about other aspects of games you may not like whether that is DP, instance, pvp or what-not?

Elements you think are essential are not for me, and i don't see why your opinion is more valid. I will state my opinion. You can state yours. The market will decide.

Why would i want to play MMORPGs? I am glad you ask. Here is the answer.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5903519/thread/393247#5903519

And you have no way of stopping others to state their preference, even if you don't like it. Are you going to try to shut up people who like to talk about other aspects of games you may not like whether seamless persistent worlds, group oriented content or what-not?

Elements you think are not essential are for me, and I don't see why your opinion is more valid. I will state my opinion. You can state yours. The market will not give a pile of manure what either one of us thinks.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5903519/thread/393247#5903519  

If you read your own thread there's quite a few people telling you how it is.

Originally posted by Lyrian

I haven't seen a naming policy in any MMO I've played in.

That being said I'm looking forward saving Tug McGroin,  Hugh Janus, and Max Power.

Actually most mmo do have a policy on this which is usually found in the TOS or the eula, now how strictly they enforce these policies on the other hand is quite hands in the air really.

 

 

I say play both.  Seamless persistent universes...awesome...

 

....Add in oculus rift and hotas...

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Asm0deus

I will go a step further even I do not mind if some people join a mmorpg and then play it like a single player game and I don't even mind if devs add this elemtn to make more cash what I do mind is when foolish people then claim they should take the mmorpg elements out like persistent worlds  and make them lobby based instead.


1. Mmorpgs have one thing in common, they are meant to be played with others period, if you think other wise your sadly deluded, having some solo content doesn't mean  you never play with others.

Joining a mmorpg then playing solo defeats the point of it, doesn't matter if it can be done or not or if the company makes money off of you.

well, i am playing MMOs like SP games, so i guess you won't mind. And how many i deluding myself. I log into STO, i go into an instance ... and play solo-ly. If you have to insist the 10 second before i go into the instance when i see some other people around ... well .. if that is "playing with others", seeing the chat box before going into a D3 game is "playing with someone".

I don't see a different at all. For all intent and purpose, other people do not exist when i play mmo like a SP game.

And again, what you think about whether there is a point affect no one else but yourself.

The point (to me) of a game is to have fun, and i do when i play solo/sp in some MMOs. And i continue to do so. And many MMOs allow me to do so. So i don't see you have a point .. except that you are mad someone else is enjoying MMOs in ways that you do not like.

 

I do not care how you play your game if you enjoy to play that way it is your prerogative, it doesn't affect me. What does affect me is when you go on a crusade to try encourage and the loss of elements a genre is known for that I think is fun and essential.

Again I do not see why you would even want to play mmorpgs if you want to play solo and avoid others as you seem to be claiming.

Ah if the point affects no one but myself why does it seem to affect you so much that some people enjoy persistent worlds over instances and why does it seem to affect you that some people think mmorpgs should be group games, in fact it affects you so much  you even made this thread?

The point (to me) of a game is to have fun, and I do so when I play with others in mmorpgs.  And I continue to do so. And many mmorpgs allow me to do so. So I don't see you have a point..except that you are mad someone else is enjoying mmorpgs they way they feel they should be played which is in a way you do not like.

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Asm0deus
 

The above in red shows you do not know what a real mmorpg is. What you describe as your perfect mmorpg is actually a lobby game. Pretty simple and you can't argue this as that is the basis of a lobby game.

 

as if there is such thing as a "real" mmorpg .. and you have the authority to define it.

I hate to burst your bubble .. it is just a convenient label of a bunch of games. Many would consider GW1, DDO, and marvel heroes as MMORPGs, which do not even have a persistent world.

Sure, you are unhappy about that .. but the world of MMORPG does not revolve around you.

I say D3 is close enough for me, and it is.

 

Sure there is if you feel that you can define what a mmorpg is I should be able to as well ya!

 

Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by Asm0deus
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by DEAD.line
 

The reason i made those comparasions was because those SPs are closer to mmorpgs than games like Diablo 3, and definitely COD. 

Simply put, players do seem to want big, explorable, open worlds for their RPGs instead of just linear, boxed in experiences, otherwise it wouldn't sell. And yes, both of them can great and turn a profit. What i'm trying to tell is that while you see it as just pointless walking, many, if not most, see as amazing exploration and a feeling of freedom, and could lend itself to being more advantageous to developers.

I would say D3 is closer to MMORPGs. You wait in a lobby for your 5-man (well 4-man in D3 case) dungeon group ... that is exaclty how I, and many i know, play MMORPGs. And i would dispute that a SP game, with NO MP .. is closer to a MMORPG than an online MP game with dungeons group just like instance dungeons in MMOs.

Oh, i am sure there are those who like to walk ... but remember this .. even SKYRIM has fast travel. Even then, it is too much walking to me, and i much prefer games like Witcher 2, or Dishonored .. where you jump into the meaty part of the locale.

 

The above in red shows you do not know what a real mmorpg is. What you describe as your perfect mmorpg is actually a lobby game. Pretty simple and you can't argue this as that is the basis of a lobby game.

 

You can dispute and disagree all you want but it still doesn't change the fact that you are full of baloney.

Other than being able to point to lots of mmos that work this way as their end game content...yeah he's full of baloney...

Yeah he is, just because some games add online functions and slap the mmorpg label on them doesn't necessarily make them so, it is often a marketing trick to draw in the gullible.

D3 is not a mmorpg I dont care how close to it you think you are.

I will even use some nariusseldon logic, it is not a mmorpg because it is not close enough for me! Same for DDO.

 

As for facts you make them up as you go and then claim but but it sells or look at the market or marketing for the game says so. We all know marketing never lies!

Originally posted by daltanious
Oh, it does not matter at all if I like any game or not, you, other, any1 .... EVERY company want to make money, so usually they will simply adapt to PLAYERS. So there is REASON if MMO's become more and more single player friendly. Simple as that.

Sure devs want to make money and it sure is true they have conned some people into believing they are playing "mmorp" when they are not.

I will go a step further even I do not mind if some people join a mmorpg and then play it like a single player game and I don't even mind if devs add this elemtn to make more cash what I do mind is when foolish people then claim they should take the mmorpg elements out like persistent worlds  and make them lobby based instead.

 

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Asm0deus
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Creslin321
 

You know, I think that, for the most part, it's the other way around.  I think that some devs try to make single player games into MMORPGs, as opposed to putting SP experiences into their MMORPG.

Great .. then we have more reasons to discuss SP experiences in MMORPGs .. since most of those conversion will retain some SP elements. TOR, marvel heroes ... are all good examples.

I hope you are not seriously trying to tell me that MMORPGs are no longer solo-able.

So now if a SP is making into a MMORPGs with all the MMO features .... how best to highlight its original SP features? What MMORPG features are "good" for SP games? Blizz tried the AH, and it did not work out so well. May be making a 3D lobby and call it a city .. since so many MMORPGs are already doing that. What do you think?

Whats is there to discuss? SP gaming in a mmorpg defeats the purpose of playing a mmorpg in the first place. That's not saying there can't be some things you can do solo only that you play mmorpg to play with other live people. As for lobbies and the like they are for MOBAs really.

Defeat YOUR purpose of playing a MMORPG. It does not defeat my purpose, or many who just play solo.

And it certainly does not defeat the purpose of the devs who want to do so (presumably to cater to a larger audience).

What is there to discuss? Much ....

For example, it is interesting to see if more scripting can be done in instances, so MMO can tell better stories. Don't you think TOR is not doing as good a job as Bioshock, or Dishonor and there is room for improvement?

Don't you think MMO instances has a lack of physical effects based combat mechanics like fun skill like slow-time in D3, or pulling someone out a window in Splinter Cell? Wouldn't it be nice if that can be done in a MMO?

And don't tell me you disagree that i can play MANY mmos as lobby games. I did that with WoW, Marvel Heroes, STO, NWO, DDO .. and a bunch of others ...

1. Mmorpgs have one thing in common, they are meant to be played with others period, if you think other wise your sadly deluded, having some solo content doesn't mean  you never play with others.

Joining a mmorpg then playing solo defeats the point of it, doesn't matter if it can be done or not or if the company makes money off of you.

I do not want to discuss scripting in instances, I am simply saying mmorpg should concentrate on group content and real mmorpg features rather than on single player game features. If I want those single player features I will play a single player game,it is quite simple to grasp.  You do not need to agree and I am sure there are many that agree with me.

2. Many things that can be done in single player games just cannot be done in mmorpgs for technical reasons but I am sure when it does become viable some of those features will find there way in a variety of online genres. Again I dont see the point in talking about it.

3. A lobby game being called a mmorpg is a funny oxymoron but I am sure some people will swallow hook line and sinker! Please do not confuse a lobby game with a mmorpg that has a group finder for the anti social!

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Asm0deus
 

Heh you must really have fit when watching tv shows  and a commercial comes on!  Sometimes i am short on time and will play some POE but that doesn't mean I have throw patience out the window. It is a virtue you know and very very useful in life unless you want to have a heart attack early on.

 

That is why i generally try to catch tv shows without commercial (like netflix). Obviously i have to endure it if i cannot.

Patience may be a virtue in life, but in playing video games? Playing video game itself is not a virtue from the start .... and i also don't confuse video games with real life.

(For example, i don't social in games .. you don't think i don't social in real life, do you?)

 

I think you miss the point again there's a term in french, les enfants roi and I think it explains much on some of the new attitudes we see in many gamers.

As for patience it's like many other virtues it needs to be practiced and nurtured all the time.  

I think if your impatient or a jerk in a mmorpg there's a good chance you are one in real life.  Like it or not mmorpgs have a social element to them and how we are in them represents who we are at least to those you interact with in them.

From this post of yours I gather you don't socialize in your mmorpg so what is the point of playing one, you could be playing games better suited to you.   I mean why play with others, go in a group finder system if you do not want to "interact/socialize and only intend to use other players as glorified npc's?

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Flyte27

 

It's not bad design to me.  What I was suggesting is go do something else in the game.  Either way the way you make it sound is like you have something so important you can't wait for a bit for an NPC to arrive.  Is that bad game design or is it that you have ADD or something of that nature that is preventing you from being able to have the patience to wait for something?  It's not like you have to wait all day for it to turn night.  Probably 15 minutes to a half hour.  You could go grind some more mobs and get some more loot since you seem to like doing that in Diablo 3.

well .. i don't see a reason to have patience when i use entertainment products. I don't take 15 minutes intermission (unless i need a drink or bathroom) when i watch a tv show, and i don't want a 15 min intermission in games.

Now when i play games, i am not waiting for 15 min, or even 5 min. I suppose i have to wait for the game to load, but that i have no choice.

If it is not a true "wait", that there is something interesting to do, (as part of the story, you are waiting and then something fun happen), then it is ok. But from the SKYRIM model, there is really nothing happening in the middle of the night in the street in front of the vendor. Even that game has a fast-forward button. It would be horrible in a MMO without  a fast forward button ... for me, of course.

 

Heh you must really have fit when watching tv shows  and a commercial comes on!  Sometimes i am short on time and will play some POE but that doesn't mean I have throw patience out the window. It is a virtue you know and very very useful in life unless you want to have a heart attack early on.

 

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Creslin321
 

You know, I think that, for the most part, it's the other way around.  I think that some devs try to make single player games into MMORPGs, as opposed to putting SP experiences into their MMORPG.

Great .. then we have more reasons to discuss SP experiences in MMORPGs .. since most of those conversion will retain some SP elements. TOR, marvel heroes ... are all good examples.

I hope you are not seriously trying to tell me that MMORPGs are no longer solo-able.

So now if a SP is making into a MMORPGs with all the MMO features .... how best to highlight its original SP features? What MMORPG features are "good" for SP games? Blizz tried the AH, and it did not work out so well. May be making a 3D lobby and call it a city .. since so many MMORPGs are already doing that. What do you think?

Whats is there to discuss? SP gaming in a mmorpg defeats the purpose of playing a mmorpg in the first place. That's not saying there can't be some things you can do solo only that you play mmorpg to play with other live people. As for lobbies and the like they are for MOBAs really.

Really group finders were added for the anti social that don't join guilds yet want to experience group content like raids and the like and has turned into a tool for lazy people and has IMO been nothing but bad for the mmorpg genre.

It has warped what mmorpgs are to younger impressionable people to the point that they no longer have a clue what a mmorpg is and think they should work like console games with multiplayer function via lobbies and such.

It is pretty sad to see people sheepishly fall for wacky marketing tricks, lazy shortcuts and the like. 

Originally posted by Tbau

World does not equal quality gameplay.

You can have a large detailed world and the worst gameplay making the game worthless.

And SWG proved that you can have horrible worlds that were created with a random generator and end up with a great game anway, just with gameplay.

So, no. The world is not the most important thing, but it doesn't hurt to have one that is well designed.

No one is saying are gameplay is not important. A good mmorpg should have quality gameplay AND a quality world.  The problem we have here is that some people think moba, and other such games like D3 are mmorpgs. They are not.

No one saying world are important for every genres but like wise claiming worlds are NOT important in any genres MMORPG in particular is asinine. That doesn't mean game play isn't important to these games.

 

I wish some people would stop bringing MOBA's and D3 into this as they are not mmorpgs.

Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Asm0deus

 


I have an idea why not make mmorpg's single player games outright with some multiplayer functionality that you can control. You could play with others or not as it pleases you. It would garner support (cash) from single player game people.

On the other hand moba's and dungeon crawls like diablo are just missing out as they don't really appeal to the persistent seamless world  mmo gamers so we could change that and make sure the have persistent worlds which would garner the support of these type of gamers!

Awesome isn't, if it works one way it should, work the other way too, the best of both world ya!

Oh ... i have no problem if devs make SP games outright. In fact, i play more SP games than MMOs. But you miss the point. Many MMO devs seem to want to put SP experiences into MMOs ... to get more audience, i suppose. If so, there is no reason we cannot talk about HOW they should do it.

Oh, i am all for genre bending. Didn't D3 put in a AH (a MMO feature), and PoE and Marvel Heroes both have "public zones"? I always say ... ARPGs are close enough to MMOs .. (or vice versa) particularly when one genre is putting features of another.

Of course, if a game require a player to walk miles in a persistent world, i would not be playing that game. But so far, devs seem to like to cater to me, and make persistent world less of an incovenience ... so it is all good.

Awesome ... as you say!

You know, I think that, for the most part, it's the other way around.  I think that some devs try to make single player games into MMORPGs, as opposed to putting SP experiences into their MMORPG.

There are games that are "built" to be MMORPGs like UO, EQ, even GW2.  If you try to remove the persistent shared world from any of these games, the games would basically not work at all.

But then there are games that seem to have been built to be primarily SP experiences like SWTOR, TSW (from what I've heard) etc.  If you remove the persistent world from these games...not much really changes.

So my feeling is...if you are building a primarily SP experience...don't bother trying to make it into an MMORPG ;).

Bingo, Creslin321 gets it!

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