Necro is probably the best beginning class there is. Easy to play, and can solo if need be. Everfrost use to be my server and had a good communty.

Originally posted by Laiina

Originally posted by LuckyR

 

Hate to disappoint you, but if you went to war with China you would LOSE!

 

No, the US would not lose a war with China, but it would also never win. It would be Vietnam x 100.

But it will not come to that, the US could quite easily just slap a 100% import tax on chinese made games and consoles.

My point is it would not be a war with China! It would be with China, Russia, and probably Iran. China alone can put an Army together with as many people as the USA has citizens. Damn place is like McDonalds, over a Billion served.

100% import tax would not work at all. It is American bussinesses that are buy Chinese and selling to the consumer.

You would just be putting Americans out of work not Chinese.

Originally posted by Demz2

Simple, fact is these communist monkeys have become to big for their boots,  you give them abit of  lee way, and then they bite then hands thta feed them.  Time to crush them like the west did with soviet russia.

 

They telling people they cant play online game lol, bloody communism has gone beyond a joke now. 

Hate to disappoint you, but if you went to war with China you would LOSE!

Is gold spamming bad on RP server?

Usually it is a lot less.

Originally posted by Caleveira

Originally posted by lisubab

Big talks, from so many of you who does not know what China is, how many provinces there are, how the society is and what life is over there.  Good armchair professors indeed.  How many of you have been to the villages? to the illegal cybercafes there?

Reviewing all the games, including WoW is normal.  Our own gov't random checks every restaurant, every public facilities, our office randomly checks 1% of every record before filing.  Is it bad to have checks?

Once in a while our fire prevention teams checks everything in a district, or a type of installation.  That is called annual stock taking, preventive checks whatever.  Why do you all panic and get your pants wet when some country announces their routine checks.  Do you know that every gov't monitors radio air waves, and internet constantly.  Just that they do not announce it.

We have yet to know what they are banning.  We do have games banned on our part of the country.  I have seen one of them unofficially banned from cyber cafes, a game written by Taiwan, wherein you play either the side of the police or the gangs, and have rape, robbery, murder, kidnap as "quests" and rewards handed over for maximum number of rapes achievement and so on.  Brutally dissecting a baby is a quest.  Do you want that game in a cybercafe next to your son's primary school.  We don't.  So our district police politely advise every cybercafe to block that game, or be prepared for extended multiple hours of daily inspection by the police, fire squad and social hygiene squads.

Talking about head in the sand, some of you guys are the best example.

 

I understand that coming from a more secluded and conservative society some of our opinions might bother you, but Chinas poor record in upholding human rights and civil liberties is undisputed fact. Censorship is a very offensive thing to many of us, in my country drug cartels enforce it by killing and kidnapping journalists. If something as trivial and harmless as MMOs falls prey to state control i cannot imagine what this policy will entail towards political or ideological speech.

I used the war on drugs as an example in the post that you quote. Enforcing a prohibition dictated by a foreign country (drugs are legal for us to use and carry) has resulted in the sort of violence you describe in a game becoming everyday reality to us. More people have been killed in the drug war on Mexico than in the war in Irak = Iraq I guess!, amongst them a few close friends of mine. Youre welcome to express your point of view on this forums as am i, a freedom neither of us would have in China. I speak from personal experience in expressing my distaste for the publishing of art (even videogames) being subject to anyones whim.

I cannot for the life of me understand the sort of prudish morality that would ban skeletons or demons from apearing in a videogame. As much as i may loathe WOW i could hardly think it hides any sort of corrupting influence, far from it, the fact that Horde characters are available as choices speaks of a more liberal and enlightened depiction of fantasy themes. And as for your Taiwanese game (if it exists as you describe it, as it does sound like an internet myth) i will compare it to the Americans allowing white supremacist and other hate groups to rally and comunicate their thoughts. The first amendment enshrines the ideal that freedom of speech is in itself a more precious asset than whatever hateful and ignorant message others may atempt to abuse the freedom it provides to deliver. Liberal democracy depends upon this value, free speech, and it is up to parents, not the state, to educate and protect their children.

Finally, while i acknowledge we may be skimming topics which this is not a place to discuss, the banning of videogames (specially MMOs) remains a legitimate subject of discussion and concerns us as gamers. Chinese morality may influence the content of videogames as publishers seek to make them available to a larger audience. It is us who should make the call of what we find acceptable in games, not a comunist regime.

Edit; To posters in favor of multiculturalism, human rights are still considered universal. I dont agree that different peoples merit different rights. Stoning a woman to death is as wrong in Riyadh as it is in London. Forced labor is as bad for a Chinese kid as it is for an American.

3 Factions, Qs, Freeps, and Exiles. Just having 2 factions does not work well, 3 is where it is at.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Dig yourself a hole, drop Warhammer online into it, cover with dirt.

I'm a genius.

 

Wait... he has to jump in the hole with the game.

Then he's a genius

Why WOW is hated. Hell that's easy! They took MMOs and down graded them to make it sooooo easy that my granny could be ubber. MMOs before WOW were challenging and fun to play, now you can jump into most MMOs and solo your way to max level.

WOW is resposible for this, UO, EQ, and games like that were hard to play, required you to group and DID NOT hand feed you.

Complain all you want, but if you were not around this type of game in the late 90s to early 2000 then you really do not know what an MMO should be. OH YEAH, and Blizzard advertised the hell out of WOW which is something no other MMO ever had to do.

Thanks.

Originally posted by drumchannell

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by mrmeloni

I bought 3 copies of mortal in all, one for my partner, just got the whole lot refunded by my bank because it's obvious this game is just a scam attempt to get money out of people for their failed game, who knows, maybe they even had something to do with mourning.

It wasn't even a credit card I paid with, just a bank card, and yet my bank had no problems atall in returning my money from them, which is odd, I wonder what's going on at starvault for my bank to just return my money straight away.

Can you explain how MO is scamming people?

Im kind of behind on the info did they take your pre-order and cancel the game or something?

I thought the game was in Alpha.

 

Because SV is allowing people to pre-fund the game's development. These development funds (pre-launch) should not be coming from players but from financial investors.

After checking out the beta, I can agree that this game is an absolute joke!

Hmmmm you mean to tell me that they came to your house with a gun and said "BUY MY BETA OR I AM GOING TO KILL YOU"?

Last time I checked you had to goto their web site and buy the game which allows you to beta test. You did not have to do it, it was a choice. I did it, I have been on like 3 times because of updates or server being down. I figure if it last for 4 more month then the game I bought will be paid for because I do not have to pay a $15 monthly charge that I would have had to pay other wise. For me all is good, the longer the game stays in beta the cheaper I am actually getting the game for.

WOOOOOOOT lucky me, and you {mod edit} are complaining LOL

The simple answer would e "Try it for your self" I played in beta then played at launched and I loved the game.

It was much more enjoyable than other MMOs that I have played. The only reason I am not there now is because

I play with my brother and he is not into that type of game so back to boring EQ2 for me!!

I want to pull my hair out on a good day with EQ2 and I never felt that way with DF. The world in DF is huge.

Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by templarga

Is it really free when it was part of the purchasing contract?

Let's say you buy a game in the store, and inside is a guaranteed copy of a book you have been wanting. You get home and there is no book inside. Do you say "Oh well, it was free" or do you take it back to the store and get another?

Show me where it was part of the purchasing contract, and I'll back off and forfeit my arguments with an apology.

You're using an example of something that will last me years, not two days. You're basically complaining over getting a pack of Skittles that promised 100 pieces and was missing 5 from the pack.

 

 

Just one place:

Amazon

Here is the text:

"Pre-order Aion at Amazon.com and get exclusive in-game items, as well as early access to Aion."

So going by that text, if I "pre-order", I can have "early access".

A 6+ hour queue is not early access.

But I did not Pre-Order so I can not play I can not even sit in queue so yes you have early access :)

There is no "O" in Pwns lol

Originally posted by Abloec

Originally posted by khameleon

Originally posted by Abloec

Originally posted by khameleon

Originally posted by Abloec

Ok well since people apparently don't read what they are getting when they are buying ill clear some things up,

Embossed Metal Box - This box isnt some flimsy piece of crap its an actual metal box that will last a long time and probably easily costs 10 dollars just to make it.

Free future digital updates and EXPANSIONS - Ok for anyone who is into MMO's this should ring a big whoa in your head meaning that expansions like lets say in terms of WoW, Burning Crusade and WoTLK which both when released cost what 40 bucks? meaning for just the boxed version of WoW to date cost 110 dollars compared to Mortal Onlines 75 dollars.

So I hope this little explanation of mine enlightens some people.

 

A tin can costs 10 cents to make in China for one.  They make a pair of Nike shoes for only a few cents and you think its $10 for a tin can? That is just a useless box once the game is released if it is not a success. You will most likely throw it away in a few months because you can't give away an AOC or WAR collector's edition right now.

Free expansion, you know why? They won't release any big expansion, these Devs have no money. They will probably call patches an expansion how Darkfall is using that word.

Buy what you want, but please don't try to tell people this is a good deal and cheap...

 

 

lol, Obviously you don't know the expenses of personalized items. I have looked at even custom poker chips for friends and for like 100 chips just plastic chips with a sticker on them costs close to 100 dollars,  here find me a company that will make me an embossed metal box with a customized picture I send  worth even 5 dollars and ill give you 50 dollars.

 

If you are one person trying to buy one of an item it is expensive of course.

If you are mass producing items from a Chinese factory they are probably 1 dollar per tin man....

You are only getting a box that others will be getting, it is not personalized with your own design and name.

 

Here you go though just to show you an example, the first thing I saw on google searcgh:

 

http://www.motivators.com/Promotional-SportBottles-Custom-13-344.html

 

Personalized items for 79 cents and a couple dollars... go figure huh? That is from a website selling to individuals.

 

Now imagine asking a factory in China to make you a lot of an item, just copies, it is only a couple cents each believe me.

 

 

lol, You haven't shown me anything close to the work that it takes to make an embossed metal box, and your saying they went to a china factory we don't know where they got this from an I will say this theres no way that they bought these for a couple cents per and if they did the people that made it are losing money so the chances of that happening are extremely low. Also the 79 cent bottles were plastic, the alluminum ones were 4 dollars or so and almost 10 dollars for stainless steel. We don't know what type of material the box is made of either.

Instead of arguing over what the cost of tin is, why not argue over the fact that this game is just like DFO NOT READY TO SELL!
 

If it is so secret, why are people that play WOW getting invites to test Starcraft MMO?

Originally posted by eolse

hosntly man VG & eq2 are horrible imo  Vg is a wow clone with few diffrent things ,  eq2 is turning into a wow clone (kurnark expansion) i mean clone by  you go kill 10 rats and turn in for Xp from level 1 to max level only thing diffrent is the Skin of the monster.  This game eq2 is at lest still on SoE eye meaning they still make expansions and constent new stuff  .  If i were force to pick between the 2 i would pick eq2 hands down.  This game there not so many bugs and is very player while Vg is the most buged mmo ive ever played. 

 

Not flaming you but, you had to kill 10 rats in EQ LONG b4 WOW was even thought of. Just thought I would be helpful

and let you know that small detail

I am trying all the races getting ready ready for NA server (plan to start fresh there)

Alfar is well Alfar. They have no alies and they really don't even like them selves! Even in starting areas the cry b4 death

"Help Me" is like a dinner call, before that poor player is even dead there is at least 15 players there waiting to loot his ass. If he takes to long to die someone will GANK him to speed things up. Then he will  be dinner lol.

Ork is where I started, I have a lot of my skills over 50 (not macroed) and the other Orks were better nature and easier to get along with than Alfar. Grouping as an Ork was not a problem as grouping Alfar is just waiting for the session to end and know you will be ganked by your group and lose everything.

Humans is what I am playing now, community is not terrible but have yet to group. People do like to kill humans more than other races I guess,  at least they have some easy zombies and skellies near by to get armor from.

Dwarf I played in beta, and even then it was a mostly crafting race, community was ok.

Going to start an Elf after work tonight will let you know  how that goes.

As of right now Ork is the winner for friendly community and generally getting groups and having fun.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Isturi[/i]    It seems that WoW players for the majority are in their FIFTIES. Not that I have anything against ppl who play MMO's past FIFTY. Actually I think on one hand it is a very cool thing to want to keep up with your grand kids. But I remember the days of WoW when the HARDCORE fanboy was in there TEENS. It goese to show that once you EVOLVE a MMO to its SIMPLEST form anyone can play. Dont get me wrong I plan on playing MMO's until I'm NINETY. Is that WRONG?? come to think of it I think I heard somewere there is a NINETY year old player somewhere playing WoW. If you can verify this pls do.   What are your thought or comments? I'm I the only one that SEE'S the TREND??   [/quote]   Sorry bud, but just because I am 50 does not mean I wet my pants and need a nurse. I have never played WOW nor do I intend to.  

Originally posted by Benthon

Originally posted by LuckyR

 

HAHA sorry dude or is that DUD but this game is far from fail! In a recent poll over 80% playing now plan to stay past the free month. Your TROLLING has failed

In a recent poll over 90% of those playing now plan to never play Darkfall again.
 

 

See what no proof does?

Go look at DF forms it's all there for ya to drool over. Gotta go play now, sorry don't be pissed because you still can't get in LOL

Originally posted by Die_Scream

It's AV's own fault the game failed. They should have tried to prevent everyone hacking and exploiting and macroing before the game went under.

If they didn't care enough about the game to even try to address it, they deserve to have failed.

I'm sure the devs'll have a hell of a time paying off the debts what with unemployment and all.

 

HAHA sorry dude or is that DUD but this game is far from fail! In a recent poll over 80% playing now plan to stay past the free month. Your TROLLING has failed

Originally posted by xbellx777

i imagine with the graphics being older that it should run smoother overall. i think thats better than having beautiful graphics and a lag fest

you bet, but it is a lot nicer than EQ1 that I played for years lol