I don't often agree with mind trigger, but it is true theres some not right about a lama with clover growing out of its brains.

Also with Scarlet blade at least the females are pictured as adults, the scantily clad little girlie in eden eternal looks pedo bait.

Originally posted by simplius

Originally posted by CrazKanuk

Originally posted by simplius

and it doesnt help them , that STO have actually delivered on some of their promises

their expansion is quite enjoyable,,and really FREE

 

 

Ummmmmm, no you didn't! Did you really just say SWTOR == STO? Like SW Fans == ST Fans? Wow! I don't know if there are two separate yet equally hateful groups of fans of one another. I'm in such disbelief that I don't even know if that last sentence made any sense. You may as well have said, "It's ok if Religion A doesn't have a church in your area, just go to Religion B's church, they're all the same." 

 

Just sayin.....

 

this is about games,,not religion, but i know its hard for some people to spot the difference

i like both IPs, , if you dont, then nobody is forcing you to

and just for the record: you dont need ANY churches, or whatever, to practice a religion

all you need is yourself, and some time to spend on it

  Well said!

Originally posted by sexypanda198
Time for disney to make star wars galaxies 2. Pre-cu sandbox like mmo with modern graphics that don't look like cartoon/cell shade. more like guild wars or something.

  i doubt that will happen.

 While many people have great memories of SWG pre-NGE the truth is the game was bleeding subs ner the end there.

 Not to defend SW:Tor or Bioware/EA as i have to admit their F2P model is not what it could/should bebut  the truth is NOTHING is really free. The money to make, and maintain the game has to come from somewhere.

Originally posted by expresso
So much QQ - By any and all accounts D3 was and still is a massive success suck it up and move on ppl.

  This^^

 but you know how the vocal minority has to have something to hate, and QQ about

Originally posted by Incomparable

Originally posted by BillMurphy

Originally posted by Talmien

I'm not sure why the article talks about paths and their ability to fight... paths don't have anything to do with combat, thats what your class is for. At least according to the dev speak video just released.

 

So it seems silly to say that a scientist has long range attacks with low damage... that would be the class determining that.

That was a mistake on Blake's part.  Edited text should now be live.  He's less familiar with the game that we are (but lives in SF and was able to attend for us), and wasn't in the know about how Paths are unique from Classes.

is he getting paid to go? If so, then he should prep more. its a job, nonetheless. And these mistakes can happen but when he does not even know about classes vs paths, it makes the article seem less credible if its from a perception that is not well tuned for analysis. that also means he did not read up on the game, or followed it at all.

thnx for the update, but the internet is about user created content that is abundant and free, and offering content that is wrong as free vs content on other sites that is correct as free and in abundance, is not good for traffic and therefore not good for business.

 Now, now if he actually knew something about what he was reporting on it would ruin his chances of ever becoming a Fox news reporter. Wouldn't want that now would we? ;)

Originally posted by ShakyMo
I hate wow

Will wildstar appeal to me?

 Doubtful since its made by some of the same people that made wow, has wow style graphics and is directly going for the WoW player base, still its not released and what we know is far from complete so its possible you might love it

Originally posted by Fendel84M

It just has a sense of humor, like WoW funny enough. I think they are just trying to appeal to a diverse group of players. Someone might be interested in doing the settler type stuff rather than just doing a straight up combat role. But they have all that hardcore combat stuff too. In fact it looks like they are appealing to the hardcore raiding crowd more than any MMO since Vanilla WoW.

I applaud them for adding diverse gameplay elements. Not all that stuff is just for kids. A lot of people think any type of video game is kids stuff. I know my parents generation would have never thought of playing video games for hours a day as an adult. When you became an adult you put away your toys. And in essence video games are toys.

 Its not really all the diverse if its all aimed at raiding and getting people to raid. This to me is its major flaw. I didn't particularly enjoy the 40 man raids in WoW that took forever to form so 10 players could role for one loot drop for their class (More if there were ninja looters on board) if they were lucky, rinse repeat.

Originally posted by nightmaarez

does WildStar seem a little goofy/kid-ish? The graphics are fine, but it just seems like they have a non-serious approach on how an MMO should be. I just saw what the Settler class is like, and it sounds weird for an MMO. Putting down blocks to protect your friends, building villages, putting down merchants? It sounds like something from Club Penguin. In my opinion, it just seems like Carbine Studios is not being as serious as they should be. Now I have barely done any research, but from what I have seen so far it looks like a game that a 10 year old would play on the Wii U. Carbine also hasn't shown us much gameplay, so we can't really see if WildStar is kid-ish, or an "adult/mature" MMO like WoW or Rift. 

 

Just my two cents

 Let me answer your question right now Wildstar is not Adult/mature, at least no more so then WoW which is the demographic they are going for. This does not mean it won't be good, but there will be alot of goofy silliness, and eventually in a expansion or two if they do well enough there will be pandas! ;)

Originally posted by jesteralways

these f2p publishers have shit load of "defenders", they slave themselves in f2p games and when someone says something bad about their favorite f2p game they start  their "holy defense". you can't really get a proper argument from slaves, years of slavery has completely wiped their brain of intelligence, all they can say is "this game is f2p, you don't need to spend a dime to play". on the other hand  there are people spending money in game because that game is based on a famous IP, these people don't research about game publisher or the developer. after spending money they go into the piss poor game and start crying "god damn this publisher is worst in the world, i want refund". i don't know which one of these 2 type of people is the worst.

many of us said it when this game was in beta "stay away from PWE games, they are the worst f2p publisher",  but did you people listen? you went ahead  and bought "founder packs", then kept defending the high price in cash shop and finally when they screw you over you start crying. serves you people right. next time do some research before spending money in f2p game. 

 So everyone with a opinion that differs from your is a brainwashed slave, right well hard to argue with that logic....

  Heres a news flash for you, some of us did know what we spent our money on and did know there would be lock boxes but that the game itself doesn't require you to spend one thin dime to play to the end and have fun. 

Originally posted by Grailer

Originally posted by KhinRunite
Lol, more like 70% of the 10%

 

You don't know how statistics works do you ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_of_error

 When the poll is a unoffical one that allows anyone that wants to to make multiple accounts and vote multiple times  the margin of error is high. Nothing kept 10% of a minority from each making a 100 accounts and voting so as to a get a distorted 70% vote.

  Can I prove this no. can you prove it didn't happen? Are the servers still seemingly full of players playing? Yes.

In the end its a F2P game which probably 90% or more of the players play without spending a dime. Most players that play even those that do spend money do not play it to work the market like the OP and a few vocal minority. has the game become less fun to play because some Asshats found and exploited a bug and got banned, not as far as i can see.

Originally posted by Grailer

Almost 70%+ want server wipe and all they did was ban a few people for 72 hours . The economy is still destroyed .

 

I can't see how I can play in a game where I know some players have a huge unfair advantage over others because the AH is really the main end game and will take months to recover .

 

So I quit .

 

 

 Bubye!

   Anyone thats logged in this week can see the economy is fine,(or at least about the same as it was at game start)  and if you were playing to play the AH theres better games for you out there so have fun with whichever AH market game you decide to stick with.

Op you should actually try and get out of the tutorial area to judge it. As others have said you do get exp from killing mobs and you do get most of your gear from drops. I'm guessing you haven't even gotten to blacklake yet. Basically consider the first 10 lvls the newbie or tutorial one can get to lvl 10 in about a hour.

    Neverwinter does have its problems but lack of exp or loot drops is not one of them. Personally I find the level too fast and most of the loot just clutters my bags till i can sell it. If a do juast the dailies at lvl 38 I level (ie 1-2 pvp matchs, a daily dungeon and a foundry or skirmish) Its reeally hard not to out level content in from my experience. Fortunately the foundry quests scale to ones level.

Originally posted by JRRNeiklot
That's a list of pretty horrible games I wouldn't want on my resume.

 

  Agreed, but then everyone has different tastes and opinions.

 Obsidian has a tendency to kill off most of what they touch. Take Neverwinter 2, or Kotor 2.

Both had strong storys and intersting NPC's as Suzie noted in her article however as the game progress the story gets weaker till in the ends Obsidian buries the the player under a ton of rocks never to be seen again or exiles them off into the center of the universe alone and friendless for no reason then they couldn't think of a decent ending. Genrally to add insult to injury Obsidian also ends the story with a poorly done sketch ending with monotone voice acting.

  There are no Neverwinter 3's or Kotor 3"s planned simply because Obsidian bungled Kotor II and Neverwinter II so badly. (Rushed out with tons of bugs and poor editing where content just hits a wall because it was edited.) Seriouly I'm not sure I remember when last time Obsidian was able to make a game that was good all the way through

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

Originally posted by krage

 

Personally I want the game to thrive just so other developers realize foundry and user generated content is the way to go.

Plus I don't understand why people are so butthurt about others exploiting, it will be fixed or lessened and it has no real bearing on your gameplay or free fun.

Oh?

 

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05/08/neverwinter-counters-foundry-exploit-by-nerfing-xp-rate/

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05/20/neverwinter-returns-with-seven-hour-rollback-after-exploit/

 

Billions in possible revenue (see gold farmers) and XP exploits are not big possible "gamebreaking" items?

 

Brilliant !!!

  You really need to actually try the game rather then post outdate and incorrect info. There was a exploit where players were playing a foundry quest and gettting 2 lvls in 15 mins this has been long fixed. players get exp and loot from foundry quests just not 2 lvl s in 15 mins which made several exploiters upset, and caused some others who have little to no exp with the game to go with a knee jerk reaction that foundry quest no longer gave any or very little loot exp (anyone who actually has played a foundry quest recently knows this is incorrect)

   Yes there was a 7 hour roll back from a exploit. the exploiters have been banned, Cryptic is further checking into the exploiters activity to make sure things are fixed. The economy today is no worse then it was at game release and in All Cryptic did well in punishing the exploiters rather then the entire player base. Games like WoW and EQ have had bigger exploits with much larger roll backs, they went on to do fine and we don't see you rally against them.

Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

As a MMO, it was a cash grab, plain and simple, everyone (Even those who hold stoutly to the idea that it is the next best thing and never to be beat) knows this.

 

As a GAME, its pretty good. I just think PWE ruined it. with thier horrible greed. :P

 Things in the cash shop are I guess in some area more expensive then things in the caash shops of B2P and subscription based games (GW2, WoW) but in those games you already have paid $60 or more just to try it. Sure that $25 mount in WoW looks cheap compared to Neverwinters $40 one but in the end you'll pay over $100 to play and use that mount for only 6 months more if you play longer. (game cost, and subscription cost, and mount cost compared to free download and play with cash shop mount cost)

  In the end theres nothing in the cash shop needed to play the game to the very end and have fun. Games are not made for free, game designers, and developers, graphic artist etc don't work for free. So Bills do need to be paid I expect your terming it greed is more due to your lack of understanding such things.

 By direct cost comparison games like WoW and GW2 are much greedier, as playing and buying a epic mount will cost you much more in them when you figure in total costs.

Originally posted by KingofHartz
I am happy because everytime this happens, more people are educated about cash shops and the destruction f2p causes, thus creating even more f2p haters. Play the game if you will, but don't spend one penny. As consumers it's our duty to keep them honest.

 Well at least your honest and upfront about your hate.

However your information maybe off a bit as Neverwinter is not a trainwreck. At least not anymore then any subscription or B2P game thats ever been released, as none have been perfect and bug free at launch. Its servers were just as full today as they were a week ago. The Economy at least currently isn't any worse then it was several weeks ago, and dispite what many haters still claim one does get loot and exp drops in foundry quests of fairly equal nature or more if you figure in AD rewards to other content.

  In the end Neverwinter is truely F2P as you can read any any number of articles on it. If one can't resist gambling on lockboxes thats not to the game forcing you to have them to get around in a decent manner or to open up quest areas or to equip items, or buy a UI (unlike many of the subscription F2P models ie SW:TOR, and EQ2) The cash shop really contains nothing that is needed to have fun and experience the entire game, thus your warning and hate seems more based off of the opinions of one that has never actually played the game. Neverwinter isn't for everyone that is true, no game is, but in this day where most subscription games that seem to just take ones money and give nothing in return (SW:TOR's first year was a good example of this IMO) Hating because ai game is F2P seems short sighted.

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by allendale5

"We’re also overwhelmed by your positive support and patience during the downtime"

 

looks like those everything-is-peachy and positive-spin-on-everything press release writers never get a break.  I'm pretty sure that they were inundated with positive feedback and player love during this crisis.  

What would you have rather they said? You are a bunch of tossers and most of you exploited this crap, but here have this free item pack to shut you up? No company is going to say that. Just like Starbucks will apologise for the quality of your coffee if you complain and thank you for your feedback, even though its clear that you are just a twat.

  Hehe, so true.

 If players haven't bought the game yet I don't see a price change of $10 being a major deciding factor, but who knows..

Originally posted by SupportPlayerMM

Originally posted by Dkompoze

I went legit to 60- no exploits or anything and im just now starting to get in some nice purple gear. I would be pissed if they did a wipe. I would not want to lose everything and have to start over, it would probably be the nail in the coffin for me if they did a wipe. They can ban on an individual basis, it may take a while but it could be done ,so us legit players dont have to suffer.

The 71% are idiots.

 

A wipe supports the products long term goal... Your refusal to wipe supports your short term goal and a very selfish stance acknowledging all the information is available to see how broken the economy is. Now I doubt you plan on playing for years until you feel the need to falsify reality to sound right in this thread because if you did plan on playing for the "LONG TERM" you'd know you would reroll a new toon anyways so the idea wouldn't be so hard to deal with.

  Odd the economy wasn't broken 4 days ago why would we need to roll back the server 3 weeks? Really unless you can somehow prove the economy was broken and the majority knew it and hated it then your arguement has no logical basis.

  What I find odd is you have posted in other threads you know this exploit was being used  3 weeks ago yet evidently never tried to help the long term health of the game by reporting it weither to Cryptic, or MMORPG.COM or whatever gaming newsource then which would have forced a fix in a more timely manner.