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Originally posted by Hellidol
Originally posted by UnleadedRev

EVE Online is like 25 year old Scotch....you either love it or hate it.

But....even those who hate it more than love it, like myself have to admit...that EVE Online is first class all the way. 

Its player base is HUGE, LOYAL, and its community and once a year FANFEST a Juggernaut.

Even its official magazine EON was probably the best looking awesome magazine in the history of print publications, as was its ISK guides paper or pdf and its map packs (print or pdf).

And the graphics....WOW...not content to be lazy, EVEs devs keep progressing the graphics and animations, just to name a few. Its a massive and overwhelming game in some cases, and people will shell out $15 a month to play it. The good outweighs the bad by a landslide.

Unfortunately, the few bad things about this game are the very things which are also considered good and what retains the games playerbase...that being...its OVERWHELMING.

My god....the amount of skills and ship upgrades and parts is mind blowing, also...it takes TIME...alot of TIME to accomplish things. You have to be a very patient and detail oriented person to enjoy this game, neither of which I am...but I do admit, I come back to it for about a month once or twice a year. in fact, so much work is being done on this game to make it more user freindly and fun, it will be hard for me to ignore it and not sub.

If you like Sci-Fi and space genres, this is the game for you...if you like to REALLY and I mean REALLY get wrapped up in an MMO, down to the intimate details, this game is for you. But, if you are impatient or lazy...forget it. Your success is equal to the work you put into it.

I know some people will disagree with me, but for anyone interested in the sci-fi space genre of MMOs, it would be well worth to at least TRY the game. Dont expect a WoW type or Secret World storyline though, its all about trade, commerce, and space combat, and your ship(s) are your characters, except when you get out at a space station and walk around your private quarters.

I dont know what else to say except that, I always felt EVE was one expansion away at some point to blowing the MMO industry thru the roof. All they need, is the ability for all players to see each other and be able to congregate outside their ships and maybe cut down the learning success curve a bit to the point of not upsetting existing players, and turn up the storyline to more exciting proportions and then they will have a atomic bomb of a game to devour all others.

Of course EVEs DUST 514 is the most ingenius feature to ever come about in an MMO, i.e. the co-existance of console and PC gamers, with PC gamers fighting it out in space and console gamers fighting it out on the ground and the contracts made between PC gamers and the console gamer to have the console gamers protect the pcgamers planetary assets on teh ground is breathtaking...and even the ability of a pcgamer ship to orbital bombard the console players on the planet is EPIC.

We will see what happens.....

I agree with alot of what you said, EVE is still doing very very good, people rate success with MMOS on the number of subscribers but that is a bad way to look at it. EVE has been around longer then wow and continues to grab more and more people, it only has around 500k to 600k subs but that is plenty and more importantly it isnt going in the wrong direction. What I am surprised  about is they havent explored with different genera of mmos. I believe as long as they keep their underlining principles they will be successful with any mmo they release.

I think the makers of EVE are also the Devs for "World of Darkness" the Vampire MMO?

EVE Online is like 25 year old Scotch....you either love it or hate it.

But....even those who hate it more than love it, like myself have to admit...that EVE Online is first class all the way. 

Its player base is HUGE, LOYAL, and its community and once a year FANFEST a Juggernaut.

Even its official magazine EON was probably the best looking awesome magazine in the history of print publications, as was its ISK guides paper or pdf and its map packs (print or pdf).

And the graphics....WOW...not content to be lazy, EVEs devs keep progressing the graphics and animations, just to name a few. Its a massive and overwhelming game in some cases, and people will shell out $15 a month to play it. The good outweighs the bad by a landslide.

Unfortunately, the few bad things about this game are the very things which are also considered good and what retains the games playerbase...that being...its OVERWHELMING.

My god....the amount of skills and ship upgrades and parts is mind blowing, also...it takes TIME...alot of TIME to accomplish things. You have to be a very patient and detail oriented person to enjoy this game, neither of which I am...but I do admit, I come back to it for about a month once or twice a year. in fact, so much work is being done on this game to make it more user freindly and fun, it will be hard for me to ignore it and not sub.

If you like Sci-Fi and space genres, this is the game for you...if you like to REALLY and I mean REALLY get wrapped up in an MMO, down to the intimate details, this game is for you. But, if you are impatient or lazy...forget it. Your success is equal to the work you put into it.

I know some people will disagree with me, but for anyone interested in the sci-fi space genre of MMOs, it would be well worth to at least TRY the game. Dont expect a WoW type or Secret World storyline though, its all about trade, commerce, and space combat, and your ship(s) are your characters, except when you get out at a space station and walk around your private quarters.

I dont know what else to say except that, I always felt EVE was one expansion away at some point to blowing the MMO industry thru the roof. All they need, is the ability for all players to see each other and be able to congregate outside their ships and maybe cut down the learning success curve a bit to the point of not upsetting existing players, and turn up the storyline to more exciting proportions and then they will have a atomic bomb of a game to devour all others.

Of course EVEs DUST 514 is the most ingenius feature to ever come about in an MMO, i.e. the co-existance of console and PC gamers, with PC gamers fighting it out in space and console gamers fighting it out on the ground and the contracts made between PC gamers and the console gamer to have the console gamers protect the pcgamers planetary assets on teh ground is breathtaking...and even the ability of a pcgamer ship to orbital bombard the console players on the planet is EPIC.

We will see what happens.....

I don't know what their intent was Mtibbs....but, you are right...they killed this game. It would have been better for both Warhammer Online and Wrath of Hero's to have its code released to people who care and not damn EA.

And what was the deal with Wrath of Heroes? To take resources away from Warhammer Online? I recall Wrath of Hero's claiming "its Warhammer Online without all the BORING STUFF"! And that was an official message...talk about shooting Warhammer Online in the foot. Then, only to shut down Wrath of Heros unexpectidly?

EA must be run by a bunch of mutants...thats the only conclusion I can come to.

As you know, I am a big Warhammer and Warhammer 40K fan.

 

I first played Warhammer Online in 2009, and since then, sometimes subscribe for 1 month or 3 months at a time about once or twice a year since then. I have a ton of characters, most of which are Rank 30-40, including two 40's.

This game even now, still has one of the most mature, helpful, and friendly game communities EVER, both in and out of the game. Griefers are very very rare, and even the opposing team does not taunt or insult..they are grateful just to have players to fight.

I just resubbed for 1 month about 2 weeks ago, and what remained of the game shocked me both in its official website and in the game proper. First off, for those who don't know Electronic Arts the usurper of this game from Mythic, had massive layoffs for all its games. The effect on Warhammer Online was first that whatever LITTLE communication we had received from the Devs of this game over the years has now ground to a halt. NOTHING...It would not surprise me if there is only one person who watches the servers for this game and does occassional maintenance. Other than that there is a strong armed community manager who will flame and delete anyone and anything said in a negative context...thus, those are probably the only two people who work for this game.

 

There is some good news...the PvP is still the BEST in the MMO world, BUT....from the start this game was designed to be 100% dependant on player population. Thus, if player population drops, down goes the game, because the PvE aspect of this game albiet with unique at the time "Public Quests" and "Scenario Challenges"  is still extremely WEAK...always has and still is.

 

So that leaves player dependent PvP....when there are players it is fun, but when there are not enough players its bad.

 

EVEN WORSE, not all the issues are due to player population, but the players themselves! It was noted about 2 years ago maybe 3, that for some odd reason Destro always outnumbered order...but even worse, for some odd reason Order players never ever seemed organized like the Destro players. For example, you could always count on Destro player formed Warbands...but more often than not Order players did not form warbands...and even when they did form one, the strategy was to just stand there and fight with limited thought given to taking Objectives. Thus, Destro would just grab objectives and flip the zone and milking precious Renown points over and over and over.

 

I guess, very conservative players were drawn to Order with no thought to strategy..unlike Destro.

 

However, if that was bad in the past its even worse now...using T1 and T4 as examples...in T1 Order for the most part just stands on the slope to their warcamp, and is content to allow Destro to take the Docks and harvest Shrine. Sometimes, Order will take Fetz...but...not often and when they do they are in a very bad pattern of advance, take, then retreat for no apparent reason. In T4 its even WORSE!

 

For example, in Praag...Order is content to take Martyrs Square and chase Destro almost to their Warcamp...but then stops and retreats....huh? Why not make a stand and hole them up in their warcamp the same way Destro does to Order?

 

NOPE...Order takes the square, advances, stops, and then RUNS away as the Destro players look on dumbfounded, but yet having other Destro players take Objectives while Order just takes and then runs away from Martyrs Square. It makes no sense.

 

The Chaos Wastes are even worse! Order just stand outside their Warcamp with half fighting and the other half standing on the ridge doing nothing...meanwhile Destro takes all the Objectives and the Renown Rank farming and disparity continues.

 

Now for the WORST part...Population is soooo LOW...you might find one Warband....usually Destro will form a nice fat Warband, but Order even with enough players seems to have a bunch of players who dont join Warbands. This makes healing and coordination harder...no wonder Order does not take objectives...BUT it gets worse.....

On average in T1, I see only 5 players on average in an Order Warband and maybe....maybe another 5 order players not in any Warband...Destro usually has on average 10-12 players.

 

So yes...with such low population and EA just being lazy for years with this game, and now with EA layoffs, it makes you wonder  how long this game will exist with just a niche playerbase of hardcore Warhammer fans ($15 a month) and a bunch of trial membership players (free).

Free to Play would have helped this game and even made money for expansions and fixes...but no EA seems to have this game on auto pilot...just treading water until they kill it.

Sad....very very sad....

Excellent Article and I agree 100%.

Unfortunately, the game is even worse than the issues you list.

For example, when you work hard to get to level 60 with enough glory to buy a set of full PvP armor, you will soon learn that the most important slot on the armor, i.e. the purple "armor enhancement slot" will cost you a TON to utilize. Not only do the 4 "enhancements" (not enchantments) have a 1% success rate to fuse into a purple, but the cost of a purple is hundreds of thousands of AD. And so is the cost to fuse it.

This game game was NOT designed to make money from the use of AD and Zen...NO...the game was designed first and formost to SUCK you DRY.

I am done with it, and by the way...PvP is horrid...despite being very good at PvP in this game, most matches have so many AFKrs, that there is hardly ever a balanced match.

Sometimes an entire team is AFK at the spawn site with hot keys automatically set to make them jump and not be disconected.

 

You were banned because you bought or sold AH items for a negative price and made AD from it.

That is an exploit and they are banning anyone who bought or sold items for a negative amount.

So stop acting all innocent.

 

If you alt-tab or minimize while in que (5000 average) it will reset you to 50000+!!!!!!

I AGREE WITH FALLENLORD.

Here is why...the days of 1999-2003 in EQ are over, where Massive Multiplayer was so new we were excited to SEE other players and interact with them in so many ways.

THEN....the a$$hats began to grow....it took so much time to weed out the a$$hats from the noobs and the good players, that we soon learned its better to JUST play with friends, our guild, or ourselves.

Other players became an annoyance as opposed to fun. The pollution of chat by children who use it to say everything they always wanted without their parents spanking them became romper room.

Frankly, no intelligent and mature player wants to see or read anything from other players as a result or even worse play with them.

This is why so many MMOs adopted instances....griefers, kill stealers and other jerks ruined everyones dungeons experience. Thus, instances insured the a$$hats would stew in their own pots.

So there you have it, the jerks, exploiters, griefers, kill stealers, a$$hats are what caused MMOs to become instanced games and most players shunning others except for close friends and guild mates.

My advice to you Wololo is to DEAL WITH IT and stop whining.

Mark Jacobs...the guy who created DAOC and Warhammer Online; and of which both games STILL require a subscription of $15 each month, both games have not experienced a graphics update, you do not read anything in the news about both games because frankly nothing has been done to either of them for a LONG time.

DAOC fared better than Warhammer Online, much better...but with Warhammer Online being his most recent project in his resume, and how he bailed after he hosed it and remains hosed till this day...

I do not get excite about anything he says, because....3 years from now we will hear the same old excuses he gives for Warhammer Online.

SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA

Blah blah blah, all we need to know is whats being done about saving the game, making it better and F2P?

Sounds like NOTHING

Based on his responses EA will be voted the worst company next year too.

I agree with the OP 100%.

Its amazing how much we did back in 1999 with a sub par game by todays standards like EQ.

Yet, each new MMO is now worse than the one before it.

Monthly subscription..NO WAY

Because Mark Jacobs has a fail track record?

1) DAOC - Great game...but when was the last time its been updated? Does anyone still play it? its never in the news?

2) WAR - FAIL

What else has this guy done? NOTHING! And I am supposed to be excited about CU?

BAH!

They should just re-design the whole game, because right now its FAIL.

The worsrt AAA MMO to be released ever. Its a shallow game, with a nightmarish UI, broken features, missign features, broken weapon mechanics, non existant social features, it would be a better single player game than an MMO.

Loot sucks, quests are hosed, contracts are hosed, the list goes on and on and on.

Save your money until a year goes by and the game is either re-designed, shut down, or by a miracle is fixed.

Oh BTW, the game is a POOR reflection of the TV series.

I hate the game now...here is why:

1) Object re-use:

Nothing says lazy devs, boring content, and zzzz when you keep re-using objects and regardless of whether its landscapes, interiors or exteriors, right now its to the point of ruining the games immersion and is cheesy cheap. For example, Arkfalls are a HUGE part of this game....yet, the Ark falls do not look like the cool space debris consisting of parts of Spaceship Ark interiors like you see in the first 15 minutes of the Episode 1 video. NOPE...they are genric blobs of leftover RIFT crap. They look like crap, the loot is crap, its exactly like dynamic spawns in RIFT where you have a circle of stupid stuff surrounding something. Frankly, the RIFT dynamic events are better than the ones in Defiance by a MILE.

You will soon get tired of all the landscapes, buildings and interiors to teh point of total boredom. I understand it gets better, but heck....why must every MMO force us to fight the same type of minions for hours on end - Rats = Hell Bugs. Freaking tired of stupid looking boring Hellbugs!

Give us something else!

 

2) Horrible Game Design:

The Weapon MOD interface is the worst in eh game industry and it doesnt even work properly IF and WHEN you figure out how it works.

3) Social and Chat is FAIL:

No one uses chat because you have to press Enter to use it and that keeps you from doing anything else. The game might as well me a PS3 console port in Single Player.

4) Loot Stinks:

The first several times you waste 30 minutes at an Arkfall with other players and get nothing other than junk loot, you stop bothering with them.

5) Quests are buggy and subject to server time outs:

So far there have been 2 quests that took hours to complete because they would time out do to server issues and you would not know it until the NPC you are escorting is unresponsive. You have to log out and log back in to fix , which forces you to start over.

6) Time trial quests give nothing:

If you dont place in top 3, you get NOTHING...not even XP.

7) Should be F2P with microtranactions:

Instead you buy the game for $59 and also have microtransactions, thats double dipping all for a sub par game.

8) Quest line comes and goes:

Sometimes the main quest line disappears and you get a message saying to use your map to do other quests. For the past 4 hours there has been NOTHING except the main quest which i cannot complete without a group. No Ark falls except for 1 or 2 small ones on the far side of the map, which when I get there will be over. No side quests for the past 4 hours either...BORING

9) Weapon stats are hosed:

Weapons with great stats stink and weapons with poor stats are good...you do not know what to buy, loot, or sell or keep or discard. Most green weapons are better than blue. You have no clue what you are using.

 

CONCLUSION:

Save your money until they fix the game, re-design it, or something better comes out.

Other than hunting for the Options Menu and how to exit the game:

Little wheel on bottom left....

I have been enjoying the game for the past few hours, and this from a guy who doesnt like shooter type games, and especiially MMOs. But, Defiance is different than most shooters and MMOs. There is a good storyline, quests, side quests, and dynamic quests. There are no stupid static mobs standing around to be hunted, like many MMOs. Instead, you are immediately thrust into a exciting storyline with nice cinematics, and lots of immersion. The graphics are great, and not sure what people were complaining about, to me it looks great. Combat doesnt require the reflexes of a mongoose, nor does driving a vehicle, but yet its not boring or slow like many MMOs. Its in the middle ground on both. 

Loot is amble, quests are challanging, driving is a blast and you get achievements for your exciting driving stunts and stuff. 

The only negatives are like I said, parts of the UI, which you will eventually figure out, its not that bad. Community is good, but chat is flat....I do not think anyone really knows how to use it. Not that I care..I hate chat, and by default its hidden unless you press enter which is fine by me.

So in a nutshell, I am enjoying this game alot so far adn if you have $60 burning a hole in your pocket then go for it.

WoW's graphics will still be outdated and its art style will still resemble a "Babys Game".

OMG...what were they thinking?

RUN LIKE HELL AWAY FROM THIS AND DO NOT ASK WHY!

They shut down Wrath of Heroes (Warhammer) end of March.

I hate them

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