seriously? if its Lion's Arch you shoul dbe there by lvl 15 (if not before!!!)

be patient, learn the game dont rush things.

gimme gimme wont get you far...

then again this new gen of MMOS are that way anyway...

carry on...

GAMES SUCK. YOU'RE JUST TO YOUNG TO KNOW BETTER

there fixed it

Originally posted by tank017

I bought a costume from the online store and I noticed that the 'costume maker' merchants are in areas that Ive never been to yet(im playing a level 7 char)..

 

is there a way to travel to these places now to get my costume? or do I have to wait till i open these places up?

 

Ive tried going to the battle Isles to get to the costume maker at the Great Temple of Blathazar,but I cant seem to get much farther than that merchant/quest giving area.

dude you will get to lvl 20 in no time and getting to those places will be a piece of cake

im serious, within a week you will be maxed out.

edit i havent played in a while but im not sure if in the PVP zones you get some costume guys there

just make a pvp toon and you will automatically get lvl 20 go to the pvp zone (restricted to those zones though)

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

The fun part is when you sit on their toons face and say "Haha, I pwned joo noob!" and then they say "(**&&%^ you, you ()&)&)&&&^%^ f^&&07!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate you, you ^%$## anbd you can go (@#$%^ your *@$%^&!!!!!!!

 

 

instead of i hate you or $%^#%^ your@#$% etc, when a high level toon/ship kills me i simply dont say a word, and if they start trash talking, "ohh i pwned you, IN YOUR FACE!" i simply reply, "yes, yes you did, not impressed though, you are 46 levels ahead of me, nothing i could have done, shit happens...oh well..."

at that point i would so like to have a webcam so i can see their dissapointed or confused look in their face

i agree and i want nothing more with cash shops

but alas, people are stupid enough to pay for game , pay for sub AND pay for items

hell and i though that rock origami that sold for 12 $ on ebay was stupid... (it was a crumpled up piece of lined paper)

so as long as there are people willing to pay for that (which there is one born every minute) its here to stay

P.S. leave my Collector's Edition alone, in fact for 120$ give me a poster and the sound track CD (and possibly a figurine)

what do you get these days for a CE? just stupid in game stuff that you cant use till lvl 6 and become obsolete at lvl 7?

P.P.S free download and no sub, i think should have a cash shop. except for rental items, thats even more stupid... pay 2,50 for a ring that gives you 10% (insert stat) but you only keep it for 7 days weather you play or not.

i challenge any company to make a game with the same features (pre CU)

i would assume it would have to stay sci-fi due to JTL but the main features i would love to see

skill system would be IDENTICAL (minus name changes) but have 4 branches + novice/Master with hybrids and elite professions. (and there needs to be more than 30

professions that are a must keep: doctor, CH, ... now that i think of it... ALL OF THEM!! just change the name to fit the universe you create. 

the TEF system (with 2-3 factions) name them however you want. green v yellow v black (green lantern reference :) ) this is the perfect ballance for those who want to pvp and those who dont and allowing them to live together.

Planetary travel 

space and ships pewpew (and all sort of ships from personal to multi passenger to guild habitat)

make it an original universe, like project entropia, with weird ass creatures with hair on their eyeballs

Originally posted by Lynxeyed

as a weekend warrior I find that completely acceptable. Sorry I dont have the time my 13 year old son does to grind for 70 hours a week but I got the wallet to keep up with him.

well the reason why companies are doing that is to cater to weekend warriors like yourself... so more people can play and consequently give more money. so of course blizzard is going to prefer your wallet to the wallet of your 13 year old who can probably just buy the box, specially since you will probably end up funding a few things here and there for him as well...xmas, birthday etc....

its a brilliant concept economically. 

on the other hand maybe weekend warriors should find games that fit best their shedule?. there is no such class in a game like diablo. 

it is really sad that gaming has come to this where the way games are made has CHANGED and CATERED for people who have no business in games... 

worst part is that we, the true gamers are a dying breed and this cash thing is an abomination and an insult to our community

im sure if i make a game, sell the box 50$, then put a 9.99 subscription, and a special cash shop where anything in the game can be bought, that includes levels, spells armor weapons accessories and looks. so for 250$ you can have a max lvl character pimped out with all skills and build. you can also buy as many character slots as you want. for 5$/slot im sure you weekend warriors would not hesitate a second to take out your credit cards and get 4 maxed out characters... that you play on weekends... 

Originally posted by travdoty

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Loktofeit

It all depends on the game mechanics. In the PVP games that I've played - UO, SB, PotBS, EVE, Puzzle Pirates - a new player has just as much chance to affect the battle as a veteran player. Add to that, if you take the policy of not attacking the enemy's low level players, you've just given them free pass to safely transport their goods through your territory.

Wait wait, new players in EvE have "just as much of a chance to affect the battle as the veteran player" ???? I'd really like to see that one explained because I call bullshit.

 

Good that we actually agree on something lol. I'm calling official bullshit on that one as well. 

read 3-4 posts above by me  (and the one over yours)

affect the battle does not mean obsolete victory. it means new players can shift the tide of war quite easely

they can shift how an encounter small gang to medium gang will go. 

i always bring one or 2 rookies on the field with me, and most of they time they survive. on top of getting their share of the fat loot

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by bunnyhopper

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Loktofeit

It all depends on the game mechanics. In the PVP games that I've played - UO, SB, PotBS, EVE, Puzzle Pirates - a new player has just as much chance to affect the battle as a veteran player. Add to that, if you take the policy of not attacking the enemy's low level players, you've just given them free pass to safely transport their goods through your territory.

Wait wait, new players in EvE have "just as much of a chance to affect the battle as the veteran player" ???? I'd really like to see that one explained because I call bullshit.

You can be viable for pvp in one form or another and able to 'compete' in a relatively short space of time yes. I guess it depends what you mean by 'new players'.

"Viable" sounds really great...., Spock is right and you know it.

by affect the battle, he doesnt mean kill everyone and everything on day one. 

he means that a new players can make the difference between a win or a loss (or a win or a "damn he got away")

put a new 3 day old player in a frigate with some webs afterburners and scramblers and you have yourself a mean little bugger. i would hate to have one of those flying around my battleship. 

let me put it this way, that new player will be able to make a battleship simply float unable to do anything, not even run away. while you simply shoot it until it dies. 

never go into pvp battle without a noob by your side :)

Originally posted by Doozerglue

I was a sub only kind of guy until recently.  I thought there's no way I'd ever have fun with a F2P game because the games were low budget.  I was wrong. I'm having so much fun playing LoL and you don't need to pay to play.  I ended up buying some characters, only because I wanted to play mages, but I really didn't have to.  I looked at it this way - I paid for software for other games; I paid sub fees; why not contribute to the upkeep of servers and developement of the game?

Trust me, I hated the idea of play F2P games... now, not so much. 

finally someone with some common sense!

if the game is well done and balanced (even if you buy to win items in the shop) a FTP game can be as good and cheaper than a P2P game. 

alas there are so few that i can't really name a good one off the top of my head... but i know for a fact that there are...

for those getting ganked here is a tip that makes it ohhh so funny (on the ganked side)

nowadays there really isnt much penalty for dying, even in a FFA Full loot (SPECIALLY at lvl 1)

so what you do is when you find a ganker that kills you simply go back and punch him 

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

ganker strikes you for 50 damage you die

rince repeat without saying a word until he gets fed up of you just showing up in front of him to get killed

when he leaves to go gank other people

start sending him PMs 

/tell ganker: hey wanna be my friend

/tell ganker: i dont speak english

/tell ganker: give me gold plz

/tell ganker: potions? you got armors you give to me?

/tell ganker: i got facebook i am from small village in affrica, i have internet in local school

/tell ganker: i need friend you be friend

and let your imagination roll

if he blocks you remember his name and just remake a toon and keep talking to him

/tell ganker: you blocked my other character so i made this one so we can speak,

/tell ganker: so when we go hunt? i want kill stuff and be cool like you

and if its a free to play game simply  keep wanting to give him your ultimate love in private PMs and public posts on how he is so cool

i did that once, oh how sweet his anoyed tears are

ganker whispers: dude im not your friend STOP SENDING ME TELLS, ILL REPORT YOU!

/tell ganker report for what i just want to be your friend, will you be my friend?

ganker whispers: STOP IT DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO?

and at this point is where he tastes a bit of his own medicine

Originally posted by therain93

Yes.  Snag the battlechest.  Necromancer corpse-explosion in the bug lair is well worth the money.

remember the time where you could have 30+2 minions out at once? people hated me i caused so much lag and chaos. they they limited it to 9 :(

i will dissagree with most posters higher

i would even recomend to get the combo pack at wal-mart or something for 9,99 and play them in order from begining to end.

diablo 1

graphics outdated of course but gameplay still amazing lore is deep and you actually go down to the depths of hell to fight diablo himself. (dont worry i wont give spoilers)

diablo 2

you keep following your hero from diablo 1 from another person's point of view and again (of course) you  go down to the depths of hell and fight diablo...

yes diablo 1 and 2 have very outdated graphics... but the gameplay, story, quests and lore are incredible... i still play diablo 2 and after some point i forget the shitty graphics. hell even diablo 1 is still good

then again i come from a generation of gamers that prefer a good gameplay with bad graphics than a bad gameplay with good graphics. my computer can run the cry2 engine without a hickup on max and i still think diablo 1 and 2 are great games to play nowadays. (less D1 than D2)

recomendations for D1 (warrior class)

Recommendations for D2 (Druid (expansion) or amazon regular, easy mode with the barbarian))

i am a huge fan of open world pvp. but i also have some sense of honor, even in games.

if i am going to kill you, you will be facing me and armed

translated to MMO talk, if i am going to kill you, you can be sure that you will have the chance of killing me.

if you are defenseless i will on the other hand help you or ignore you

(unless you attack me first, in which case ill kill you and just to humiliate you even more, i wont even loot you. just to say you suck so much that taking your stuff isnt worth my time sometimes ill drop 1 unit of currency like giving 1 cent as tip to a waitress)

other than that my fun in pvp is to actually participate in large warfare, guild wars/ alliance wars, territory control with as many players as possible. (not battlegrounds or reserved pvp zones, it needs to be able to happen whenever, whereever)

and also to go gank those bullies killing newbies... their tears are oh so sweater :)

Originally posted by stamps79

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

my game list

released games

-none

Unreleased games (1 being the one i want most and so on)

1. Biochock Infinite (Shooter fix, and great story and lore. honestly i think its the best storyline and endings i have played in a SP)

2. Guild Wars 2 (MMO fix, i played GW1 from before release, then played throughout its life time. i just can't simply not get it... oh and there is no monthly fee and im poor right now beign student and all)

3. Path of Exile (closed beta, and it makes diablo universe and lore sound like raibow fairy land with happy white ponies and pink unicorns) and the skill system.... GEEZUS!! here have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVKiLhDiZKM

4. Diablo 3 (even if they added that cash shop thing (wich suck monkey balls) i will still be getting it just because its diablo and i am a huge fan)

5-6-7 Skyrim, Arkham City and Dead Island (i really want to play them but i can wait till it's in the discount bin for 9.99$ with a 25% discount on boxing at Wal-Mart)

I actually forgot about Path of Exile, it does use a lot of things Diablo, but I'm still very much excited about the game and hopefully F2P doesn't mean I need to spend huge chunks of money to actually enjoy the game. =)  

i would be willing to dish out 10$/month on that game... if that is not enough to stay competitive on the hard core realm  then i guess i will have to pass on it.

(hard core real is semi-permadeath, when you die that character gets moved to the default (main) realm. so everyone in that  hardcore realm you know they have not died yet.)

i have never been a fan of motion gaming. when i play video games i NEED to feel getting fat...

when i game i am on a couch or a very lazy arm chair (if i could afford it i would get the one that massages you and has heat pads)

the most ill do is point a gun to the screen (duck hunt anyone? :P)

disclaimer: i am a coach/personnal trainer for a living and probably in better shape than most of you (no offence intended)

Originally posted by Jenuviel

1. Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

2. *Elder Scrolls: Skyrim (The only one from your list)

3. Guild Wars 2

4. Star Wars: The Old Republic (maybe 6 months after launch)

 

I pretty much only play RPGs and MMORPGs, and I tend to be very picky even within those genres. On the plus side, I save a lot of money, since not much is marketed to my interests.

heh i have been puting aside 15$/month (+ 50$ every 4) if i am not playing an MMO, or i didnt buy a game during those 4 months. (on top of my regular savings)

saved close to 300$ since november 2010 when i quit eve online. 

since those 300$ are reserved for entertainment purposes... i dont know what to spend it on.!

my game list

released games

-none

Unreleased games (1 being the one i want most and so on)

1. Biochock Infinite (Shooter fix, and great story and lore. honestly i think its the best storyline and endings i have played in a SP)

2. Guild Wars 2 (MMO fix, i played GW1 from before release, then played throughout its life time. i just can't simply not get it... oh and there is no monthly fee and im poor right now beign student and all)

3. Path of Exile (closed beta, and it makes diablo universe and lore sound like raibow fairy land with happy white ponies and pink unicorns) and the skill system.... GEEZUS!! here have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVKiLhDiZKM

4. Diablo 3 (even if they added that cash shop thing (wich suck monkey balls) i will still be getting it just because its diablo and i am a huge fan)

5-6-7 Skyrim, Arkham City and Dead Island (i really want to play them but i can wait till it's in the discount bin for 9.99$ with a 25% discount on boxing at Wal-Mart)

Originally posted by kiltak

I lean more towards Free to play with micro. Now let me please explain why. Now the monthly fee exist for two purpose the first of which is to continue to pay for maintain servers. The second reason is to bring new content to the game. Now back in day we would see new content on a montly bases. However now days most games only see three maybe four big content updates a year. The rest of the time it's just fixes and tweaks to the game.

Now the problem I have with monthly fee is that I am paying $15 dollars a month just so the company can fix things in game. Now my belief is that players shouldn't have to pay money every month so developers can just offer fixes and tweaks to the game that we should be getting for free. I would much rather pay a fee three or four times a month for major updates then to pay $15 dollars to get something I should be getting for free.

I think between major updates, bounce items and other usefull things they could make more then enough money to keep a game going. In fact lots of games have done this and have survived quite nicely doing so. However I except that will probably never happen across the board and will pay the $15 dollars a month.

the thing is that you ALREADY pay for Major updates in the form of expansions so in 1 year you pay 120$ for your major updates. ADD to that 15$/month so they can fix your bugs (that should have been dealt in the closed/open beta or game testers session) and ADD to that say something reasonable 10-20$/month on vanity or that rainbow pissing unicorn with wings... 

so a free game with no sub SHOULD (and has to) have cash shop... things in there should be convenience

one thing that bewilders me, i saw this in ragnarok online, 

http://www.playragnarok.com/kafrashop/detail.aspx?i=97&p=1&c=5

note its a rental item... so you pay and you dont have it anymore after 7 days... now thats just low... and its about 2,50$ aprox

oh yes it buffs up your character... 10% extra critical hits... 

then you have the hats that are for keeps that range from 2-10$

http://www.playragnarok.com/kafrashop/list.aspx?c=2&page=3

yes that also buff up your stats... 

basically... pay to be stronger... (and for some items keep paying on a regular base)

this is just one game, i heard that allods is worse? don t know if they changed the pricing or not.

hey man, i also wanted to make a game, and still am, but more as a hobby than anything else... and while doing research i found myself stuck with some barriers (most of them moneyz)

LICENCING

the open source programs you are using, make sure you read carefully what part of it is open and what part requires extra licensing. "blender" is tricky that way for example some things are open some things are not. 

COPYRIGHT MATERIAL

music/soundFX, you need to have the rights...you can "hire" a composer but i can assure you it wont be free. the only free music you will get is something composed by yourself. (i studdied in music so that was not much a problem for myself)

textures deviant-art might be a good place to start, if you already found people interested in working on the project for free, good! if not again the only free artistic design portion will be things you draw yourself (i have huge problems here since a kindergarten kid can draw a better stickman than me)

3D models (or sprites in your case since its 2D). are not free either... those are not as easy to make as you think...(then again i cant even draw a stickman)

as from your post you seem to know about programming and networks so thats fine there, though i dont think your server will be available for ever, usually people finish school and leave...maybe in university you could keep some alumni rights to use their facilities... but highschool as soon as you graduate you no longer have rights to step in it without permission. 

MY SUGGESTIONS

go for the 3D instead of the 2D, simple doesnt mean 2D, look at minecraft, avatars are made with 13 square prims (blocks if you will) and everything else are giant textured blocks. 

find a team, each person with its own speciality (10 people should be enough to start a small project... dont forget marketing, accounting, webmaster and managing positions) making a game (specially an MMO) is not a 1 man job, trust me. 

dont make it free with donations only. "when your good at doing something, never do it for free" - Joker (Batman: The Dark Night) people, (reffering to artists mostly) are 80% of the time starving if they do nothing else. maybe during development, you can have it as donations only, but when it releases make them buy it. 

to get donations, you need to advertise it on a website (and not some geocities free hosting shit filled with porn adds) needs to be a legitimate site. www.(insertgamename).net/org/com etc... with a forum with discussion centers and news section and REGULAR development blogs, to show that you are doing progress... if i go on the site and see that your last post was april 2009, to hell im gonna give you a penny for that... then again if i see a progression post every week (be simply i colored the grass green this week)i might be more inclined to donate. 

i wont lie, its alot of work! and once you have it up and running you need to keep it maintained. 

else you will end up with a game where you and your best friend log in to play... (and he is alt tabbed most of the time playing rift or LOTRO or whatever the new flavor of the month is)

what i am currently doing with my game while i get time and money for it, i am building the concept without leaving anything out. from the skill/combat/crafting system to what color eyes i will be allowing for character creation.

i am also learning 3D modeling and how to use/run/compile game engines and simply scripting/programing

i am not touching anything network related since i have no clue what so ever about it

i am also readin everything about the LEGALITY of what i am using and how i will be using. can i use this texture i made with MS Paint? or will i have to pay microsoft some sort of royalties... that kind of stuff. 

is everything you are using legal for example. who owns the color red? how about blue? (thats something you should be asking yourself)

hope this helps a bit...

if you have any questions you can PM me here, i have done some research on it and maybe it can benefit you/help you in one way or another.