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Originally posted by Herzy
Originally posted by Tyvolus4
Originally posted by Multibyte

I am really fed up with people telling others to not even try ArcheAge. This is more than some people being disappointed with some aspect of the game or anything like that. It is like a sick crusade against AA going on.


So, my suggestion to people who have not tried it is that download it and play it and make up your own mind. After all, it is free to play. So, you will not lose anything by trying. Don't let anyone tell you whether you will like this game or not. See it for yourself.

Over 1 month after release and all servers still hitting High and some even hitting Full.  That says it all IMO.


ONE month is absolutely nothing in the long haul. Get back to us in 3 or 6 months.

LOL it's been long enough for every other game since WOW was released crash and burn so any success is better than 99% of the games out there

Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by fivoroth
Originally posted by Siphaed







He hasn't played ESO since early april either... comparing ESO to AA today, in terms of bots and hacking is like comparing wildstar to ESO in terms of population. It's not even close.

I didn't know there were that many people playing Wildstar .....boy ESO sure went downhill fast

Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by fivoroth
Originally posted by Siphaed

And yet last night on Salpheria a GM logged in prime time USA and sent a mass message asking anyone that's near a bot to whisper him so that he can find said bot and eliminate them.


   Not only that, but I received multiple in-game mails from the previous day when they banned nearly 10,000 hackers/bots.  Those mails were thanks for me reporting said bots using the in-game mechanic that cost 20 labor points; not only was I refunded the 20 labor for a successful report, but they also gave me a bonus 25 labor for each as well.  




So the OP's "advice" is moot as the game is being cleared of bots, hackers, and their ilk.   It's still a very fun and enjoyable game.

Bot is different to hacks. They have been doing the report a bot for ages now. Ever since the game launched. YOu make a report, it costs 20 labour, they give yu back 25. 

Still there are tons of bots and this hasn't helped.

However, this thread is not about bots. It's about the blatant hacking which is way worse. You see bots in other games but you definitely don't see hacking in most MMOs.

I see hacking in most MMOs - specifically teleport hacks - ESO, WoW, Aion, GW2, Wildstar, FF14ARR - all of them have teleopring bots that mine nodes from under the world.

It's not really hacking - that's a misnomer - its use of 3rs party exploit tools.

Keep reporting them - all Trion can do is report it to XL and they need to keep blocking it - its a never ending cycle.

XL can only lose money here so its in their best interest to keep up the fight against exploits.

Also in the last week Trion GMs have been on an absolute warpath against bots/exploiters - go read the 3rd party exploit forums see how many got mass banned in recent days.

What's sad is - all the cheaters are going to do is ask for changebacks from their banks/credit card companies - or ask for refunds from Trion.

But they won't get any refunds from the 3rd party hack software sites, because they don't offer any.

How do you know about a game you don't play?.

I've asked you that very same question ....and I'm still waiting for the answer ?


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Originally posted by Talonsin

With the money you get from fishing, you can easily buy a house from someone in a week or two.  Also, there are still spots for the 8x8 farms.  Each account only gets one of these and they cant be traded so the bots are not able to spam them all over.  Just two days ago I created two alts, leveled up to get the small farms and was able to place both in the first safe zone I came to and it only took a few minutes of searching.  I now have a thatched farmhouse and three 8x8 plots for farming.  Once I save up enough gold, I'll buy another thatched farmhouse and then drop the 8x8's.


The thing about this game is, it is very different from other MMO's in the sense that you wont be maxing your crafting in a week like you can other games.  It also rewards group play and even dedicated solo-artists cant keep up with a group who works together.  The majority of players attempt the game solo and get disappointed when they compare their progress with others who have grouped. 


I just wish the bot/land-grab hacks would get under control.  If they did, this game would be awesome and many more people would be getting land at reasonable prices.

This can't be right .. I mean you folks can't be having fun can you? Just wait until Trion comes over and kicks your dog

Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by borghive49

Man these forums are so negative these days. Archeage has issues for sure, but I honestly think the majority of the people on these forums are just completely burnt out on MMOs. They come here day after day looking for that new mmo so they can recapture those feelings from the first time they began playing *insert whatever mmo here* only to be totally let down because it is just nostalgia.  Like I said Archeage isn't the most polished MMO but it has a lot of fun elements and yah it is a grindfest! Never understood why people complain about MMOs being grindy that is one of the main features of all MMOs. 


So you completely disregard the complaints and just file it under "burnt out".  Ok.

I'd take the complaints a lot more serious if 10 % of the complainers actually played the game ?

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by JDis25
People are really reaching to find reason to hate this game now. It is definitely not for everyone and there are aspects that could be tweaked for the western audience. But it is in no way a "broken" or bad game.

Broken- don't think so.

'Bad' - very subjective.

Perhaps a little too complicated ..for the Simon say's crowd , lots of very subject "Bad" comments are the reflections of folks frustration at not being led by the hand to the next dungeon run  

It seems to be quite the opposite actually... many of the "bad" comments are from people who were expecting a "sandbox" but are led by the hand to the next quest hub instead, including the next dungeon...

You can lead a horse to water ..but you can't make them drink . People who expected to play a sandbox are playing a sandbox , the problem is the great forum warriors just jumped on the bandwagon ...nobody is led by the hand unless they want to be and  if you want to jump from quest hub to quest hub you can .

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by JDis25
People are really reaching to find reason to hate this game now. It is definitely not for everyone and there are aspects that could be tweaked for the western audience. But it is in no way a "broken" or bad game.

Broken- don't think so.

'Bad' - very subjective.

Perhaps a little too complicated ..for the Simon say's crowd , lots of very subject "Bad" comments are the reflections of folks frustration at not being led by the hand to the next dungeon run  

Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by WillowFuxxy
Originally posted by Viper482

I leveled up tailoring past 50k so I could make the bets armor in the game. I knew it was going to be expensive and tedious just to make one piece, but little did I know how ridiculously tedious it would really be.

So I get to illustrious which takes a crapload of mats and time because you have to make every single piece tp make the next, which is just stupid in itself. Just make the next one cost more mats....stupid. Anyway, now I get to illustrious and have this mystery item to open up.....I get some lake hood. I go to craft Magnificent and low and behold......I need an OCEAN hood.

Really?! I go through all of those f'ing mats, and I need some random luck roll just to get the item to make the next item? The crap already takes a crapload of mats and money, now I need luck too?

About done with this grindfest. Once you get over the initial cool you discover this game is just one big grind, everything requires a grind.

I like games in which making the best of something literally take more than a year of real life playing.

Not doing that task during each play time of course but a game where you can literally map out where you think you will be 1 or 2 years in the future.


I think that is the difference between a hobby and idle pastime.

How many people will still be playing this game in 2 years from now?

Won't be the usual crowd ,,,that beats the game in 20 hours will it ? OP should have realized he set his goals a little too high he'll be lucky to make one piece of armor .....The crafting is game is set out so it will take several different top end crafters just to make a set of heavy armour ,,,,,then another set of different crafters to make each different weapon .

Originally posted by cnutemp
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by cnutemp

So I saw this post the AA forums,

and its really quite a letdown.  I was hoping Auroria would be something similar to eve's 0.0 but it appears that isn't the case. There are only 4 guilds can have a castle PER SERVER.  Which means the 3rd continent wont be about trying to take the whole thing over with your alliance.  It will be about trying to get a castle and holding on to it for as long as possible until another guild takes it from you.

What a letdown, I was hoping for 0.0 in a fantasy setting, but as one poster put it, turns the game into a glorified king of the hill game rather than territory control.

You're telling me its gonna be this?



you are upset because the game is like an earlier game created by this developer and not like a completely different game

How would keeping everything the same but adding 10-20 more clan controlled zones or splitting up the current zones and making them more numerous make it a completely different game?

You realize that even a 700-800 man guild is going to be hard pressed to build and hold a castle right ?

Originally posted by dreadlordnaf

Remember two things about this game:

1) The entire game was designed around the concept to monetize Korean players paying for internet per hour in an internet cafe; and 

2) They decided this business model did not need be changed even the slightest bit for a western players which is why it sucks so bad.

Think about it, if there is a limit to only 4 guilds having castles, then the only way to overcome that is to stay online all the time with your friends, racking up the per hour costs at your local internet cafe, in order to try and beat them. And the guys who have the castles then need to spend all day online trying to defend them.  Versus if they had more territory, you would be happy to claim one, play a little, and then log, which would not keep racking up the bills for metered internet access and defeat the purpose of monetizing this game in Korea. 

Along with labor points and many other ridiculous concepts, this game is the perfect example of what happens when you try to force a foreign business model onto a culture where it does not apply at all.  It's like the old story about the Chevy Nova when they tried to sell it in South America.  They didnt bother to change the name and surprise, it was complete dude.  Probably because "no va" means "no go" in Spanish.  Someone failed to even do the most basic of localization research.  Same here with XL games and trion.



What's this post have to with trying to get enough resources to build a castle ?

Originally posted by Siug
Originally posted by Kyleran
I'm sure the other crafters will bee happy to see you leave, less competition and all that.

This kind of pathetic fanboism only harms both games and communities.

yea what fun is it playing a game that you can't beat in three weeks use dancing on a mailbox unless you're nude or have the best gear in game

Bravo OP didn't even have to put bait on the hook
Originally posted by gw1228


MOST plots that are about to expire are set to expire on Oct 10, 2014  two weeks after the game launched..why??? because those players do not want to continue playing..another indicator that this game is failing....again this game does have some great gameplay but it hampered by the things I mentioned.....and sadly


I'm having a hard time finding anything valid with your arguments when the only fact you use is wrong.... not sure how OCT10,2014 is two weeks after the game launched unless perhaps you weren't playing AA ? In that case my mistake

Originally posted by gw1228

Archage.....Hack, Spam, P2WIN

First game I ever played that this happened in was DAOC ....back then though they made you buy two accounts to be competitive

Originally posted by Slampig
Originally posted by Callidor
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by gw1228
I was chatting with one player who I met yesterday (I am very new to the game) and he told me the only reason he is still paying is because he paid 150 dollars....yes 150 DOLLARS for the ARCHEUm pack and that is the only reason he said that hes still playing because he feels obligated to get his moneys worth....its the 2014 game that pulls the wool over your eyes.....I only lost 15.00 but if I lost 150.00 for this game I dont know what Ide  do ....with that money I could buy shadows of mordor, dragon age inquisition, AND  Witcher 3. .....what a rip off


Oh yeah you can download it for free and play it for free - what a rip off!!!

Also did Trion force anyone to pay $150 - .... I missed when they were going around cities with guns and robbing folks of their cash.


Caught trying to spin it again DMKano? Trion sold founders packs on the premise of exlcusivity. Not a damn person bout the founders pack for any other reason than getting in early enough to get land. Trion new ahead of time there wasnt enough to go around on the opening servers. They took advantage of people by leading to them to believe that buying the founders pack would get them land. You can literally go to their website and not one mention anywhere on the website is made of "limited land"

Im still waiting for that answer, are there more negative posts than positive posts about AA on this site? 

What spin? No one was forced to pay $150.[mod edit]

Really .....and here I thought folks were happy with playing  5 months in alpha beta ...4 days head start ...4 months of game time  ....17500 credits ......and the starter packs


oops I forgot .....being able to buy apex for in game gold means they virtually gave you a life time membership

Originally posted by fuzzylogic11
I have to agree with you on this one. The negative post argument is not a very strong one. People in general are quick to complain about something and not very quick to complement something. I know I very rarely post positive post for games. All and all it always best to form your own opinion then replying on forum posts to do it for you. Give the game a try it is free to play so no big loss if you don't like it.

I always assume the folks  I block out in general chat in a game are the same folks I block out on the forums

Originally posted by Callidor


and yet here you and Dmkano, AAs most staunch supporters, defending it on just about every negative post here. From what I can tell, sir, and I use the term loosely, there are many people waiting in queues with nothing better to do than post here.

And for your information Trion pulled BS with me. I was a customer for years, and they tried to take my money and tell me a refund was "outside the refund policy" When I told them they were going to lose a loyal customer, they said "oh well".

I had to get a chargeback on my credit card after spending more than 20 hours in queue on head start weekend. You can damn well bet I dont let any business Ive been loyal to try and take advantage of me without consequence.

You still havent answered my simple question.

See the problem is in your case I called a spade a spade have an agenda since you feel wronged (for that I'm sorry) but in some strange twist of things you feel justified in trying to ruin the gaming experience of other because of your own experience . If Trion pulled BS with you take it up with Trion opinion is no better than your opinion and that's a fact ...but when you start twisting facts to serve your self at the expense of other ....You should be called out and "that is a fact"

Originally posted by gw1228

I cancelled my sub already but I just wanted to share my first week with this game.


Goldseller spam was dealt with for a day but they are back with a vengeance.


A)Nope day 3 without any spam but trial spam .....I just shut that off


Bots running rampant constantly mining ore and farming lowbie areas day and night. 

A)I see lots of ore being farmed ......and in over three weeks I haven't seen one bot farming ore


Originally posted by Callidor
Originally posted by
Originally posted by Amjoco

Trion should have tried to wedge DMKanos name in the title somehow. ArcheDMKanoAge, or something like that. Sorry Sir, but I keep reading so many negative posts about this game, and I commend you for trying to answer peoples opinions, but I think you may be losing the battle. 

The official forums of any game somewhat reflect the State of a game. Never mind paid website reviewers critiques, I always look at what is going on in the general forums. ArcheAge general forums is full of toxic comments and the story is told there.

Funny these seem to be the same folks that wrote off GW2 ...they weren't right then and to be honest they aren't right now @ least DMKanos  appears to have an opinion through experience

ah a supporter supporting another supporter, delightful. Ill ask you the same question I asked him. Are there more negative posts than positive posts out there concerning AA? 

Pretty easy answer isn't it, those that are happy are playing away ....those that have a minor issue now and then are silent ....those that are bored and frustrated come to the forums and spew crap ,,,those that have a strange need for attention  post over and over in the forums about games they don't even play


Originally posted by Callidor
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Originally posted by gw1228



So you choose to ignore the OVERWHELMING opinion of players to nit pick with semantics? Every thing in the OPs post has been commented on over and over by many, many players. And again, this is your defense, that his calendar math is wrong?

When you can't even get the most simple fact straight ??

A debate requires rebuttal, you have decided to circumvent the hundreds of players who have said exactly what the OP has said by calling out calendar math? Thats not a rebuttal thats a cop out.

Easy to debate opinion nobody wins ...when you actually can't get a fact right there is no debate you are just wrong

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