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Originally posted by BeansnBread

The thing that I find silly about these bug threads is that there seems to be 2 kinds of posts. There is a very small minority of posts that express they've run into like 3 bugs in their entire play experience all the way up to VR5 or whatever and then there are the rest of the posts.


But then... Zenimax posts patch notes that shows they are trying to fix upwards of 20 bajillion bugs. These "personal experience" posts about nigh 0 bugs just don't sit right.

Let's just say that folks that don't have serious bugs are more likely to be the silent majority ....and if you don't have any personal experience in game it doesn't really sit right to pass opinion off as knowledge.

It appears bugged quests are a little more difficult to fix than just fixing  something that's broken ....having said that I'm sure if you're the 1 out of 50 that has a bug the experience isn't pleasant .

I personally have been able to do every quest 100% completion so far  ,no performance issues , no bank issues ,no payment or credit card issue and myself or anyone else I know nobody has been banned for being a bot or falling through the earth .


Originally posted by Joejc7135
I tried grouping in ESO but I spent more time fighting to get in the same phase as my group then actually doing content.

That's not something I'd brag about it takes about 10 seconds to get everyone into the same phase

Originally posted by Zeblade
Originally posted by flizzer
This seems to be a love or hate game, not much room in the middle.  I'm not sure if that is good or bad going forward. 

Forgive me but why must people do this? I have never seen one person one post about ESO and talking hate. People not liking the game yes. Speak truth no lies. No one hates it.

Great game YES! As of right now though there are tons of gold sellers tons of bots in game. You can not do any public dungeons without bots in them. There is always 5 or more on the NPC that gives achievements. They are out side now botting NPCs. They are now doing the bosses and so on.

Please. Dont leave this stuff out. If you buy the game KNOW there are bots and allot. There is NO ONE no gm nothing you can ever talk to. You report or bug and it takes about one day. They do ban but as of know the bots ALL come back the next day.

It will hinder your questing. Search..even read ESO forums and look up word BOT. Dont believe me. Search yourself.

When they get this fixed and they will (gonna take along time) it will be a awesome game.


You would think more folks would spend the time and effort to complain about bots themselves then the games they were in ....haven't played a game since 2004 that bots and gold sellers weren't an issue ,,,WOW had the issue for the 4+ years I played ....Gw2 fought a loosing battle for 3 or 4 months maybe longer ,,,,ESO has showed some improvement but I'm sure as long as there a benefit and a demand for gold and bots it will be an issue

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

I am glad some are easy to please, and in a way thats more of a blessing than a curse. For others, its not so easy.



Folks get your opinion it's just boring after a 100 times ....without actually pointing out games with better features you just seem butt hurt !! I like to think most games I have played were rather good DAOC WOW LOTRO GW2 and ESO just seem to be better than the average games . But even games that weren't just a 100% where worth spending some time at indeed ,life is too short for me to dwell in the negative , I move on hoping for bigger and better things not hanging on like a dog with an old bone .

Originally posted by Channce

I actually didn't like Skyrim, its still on my computer and I might give a go now, but I remember feeling so lonely playing it, I got to lvl 14 I think and quit.

However, I am enjoying ESO and plan on continuing.  I have met a bunch of nice people (it took some time to find a group of people who could finish a sentence without saying F%^&, but I did it)

+1 to this ....I really disliked Skyrim and found solo play sucked ...ESO is 10X the value Skyrim was to me 

Originally posted by Myria
Originally posted by bcbully

no, "I beat the game" or  "I got hacked" threads?

Ummm... There's literally no endgame. Other than getting to level cap -- something that happened before the game even officially launched -- there's nothing to beat and no possible in-game accomplishment worthy of mention.


Not having anything worth beating isn't exactly what I'd call a feature, but, hey, to each their own.


As for getting hacked... Given disappearing bank slots and items, how would you even tell?

It's difficult to sound informed when you don't play the game ....

Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by
Originally posted by Rawasa
Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Well, congrats on abusing refunds and making it more difficult for everyone that has a real issue with a product.

'Not being able to progress' is different from 'not being able to progress as fast as I want'. The game does have bugs, as with any launch, but if you expect perfection, online gaming is not for you.

Finally, getting a refund is not an arcane secret used as an artifact against the evil corporations. It is a pedestrian consumer measure, and you have lots of ways of doing it. But it is a right, and as such, it must be used responsibly. Playing non-stop for 3 weeks, at least in my book, qualifies as enjoying and using a product.


I read the part where he got to L5 in 40 hours didn't you ? when you bullshit about one fact you actually bullshit about everything ,,,I'm sure the op doesn't play anymore just the real reason seems to be in a fog


You very blatantly dismissed every reason the OP gave that didn't line up with your assumption, citing some other reason like being able to dismiss any "facts" based on any one other fact you decide is "Bull Shit". Facts don't work that way. You don't get to dismiss any facts, even if they sit next to something that isn't. It was your final sentence in your post that is really telling. "I'm sure the OP doesn't play anymore"  That statement is the crux of your entire argument and you made that up. All the other "facts" you looked at only mean to support that assumption. The OP gave his reasons for not playing and you decided to superimpose your own reasons why the OP "probably" stopped playing so you could condemn him. If OP's lying you have to catch him in one. Otherwise, you got nothing.

Read the post above ....Looks like he's caught  red handed ,,,,the fact someone likes loves hates or leaves a game is irrelevant , that's any one's  right and no issue with me . Trying to scam folks and having like minded individual fall in like puppet's brings  the term scumbag to my mind ,but I guess facts don't work that way with you ? Looks like I had something

Originally posted by Malabooga
Originally posted by reeereee

Where did Zenimax even come up with this idea? 


Gate character progression behind hundreds of hours of solo content?  Really?


I guess they were just that desperate to slow people down.

What else is there to do once you reach 50?

So they added 10 "hell levels". How it will turn out well see, but personally im not very optimistic about that tactic, especailly when they are using content form other alliances AND making those levels pretty much non optional.

It would probably  be better to have a game that started you at level 50 ...let you stand around in gold gear , and you could just tell everyone in chat " How good you are " It appears that  dressing up like you're playing with Barbie and dancing on a mailbox is about as difficult as a new mmo should get .

Originally posted by Rawasa
Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Well, congrats on abusing refunds and making it more difficult for everyone that has a real issue with a product.

'Not being able to progress' is different from 'not being able to progress as fast as I want'. The game does have bugs, as with any launch, but if you expect perfection, online gaming is not for you.

Finally, getting a refund is not an arcane secret used as an artifact against the evil corporations. It is a pedestrian consumer measure, and you have lots of ways of doing it. But it is a right, and as such, it must be used responsibly. Playing non-stop for 3 weeks, at least in my book, qualifies as enjoying and using a product.

Before commenting on the matter please atleast read what the OP stated, he said he played for a week and encountered the bug that is stopping him from progressing which he sought to wait for 2 weeks to see if zenimax would fix. They didnt. Therefore even after sending in support tickets and getting no help, he refunded. He was enjoying the product and using it but if you don't do that then how would you know there is a problem with it? if you don't use and enjoy your PS3/PS4 and any other product then you would never know if it has a fault.

I read the part where he got to L5 in 40 hours didn't you ? when you bullshit about one fact you actually bullshit about everything ,,,I'm sure the op doesn't play anymore just the real reason seems to be in a fog


Originally posted by Rawasa

So the OP is being flamed for using his law given rights? MMOs are meant to be played for months even years therefore getting a refund after 3 weeks is not bad.

Paid for a product, played it,couldn't progress any further in said product, gets a refund.

The account gets closed (not deleted)

and can only be reopened with a re-purchase

OP has no access to the account.

Any problems? no. did he do anything wrong? no.

If the problem gets fixed will he re-purchase the game? his choice.


Did he say get a refund and never buy this game? nope. is he waiting for them to fix the game then spend HIS money on it? up to him. POWER TO THE CONSUMER!

People don't really believe this SHIT do they ? I mean if you just tell ten little lies does the first one actually come true?

Originally posted by Zegaloth
Originally posted by PAL-18

Your reward is a less toxic, and friendly community.

 I am glad they tie the forums and game bans/ suspensions together. Why would anyone want someone who can't even post on the forums in a constructive manner into the game? I certainly don't.

 Good one Zenimax for taking a firm stance against toxic players, and bullies.

Good show indeed ..should have always been that way in every game out there

Originally posted by Kaneth
Originally posted by dbgager
Yea ..I am kind of like you. I play for a few hours. enjoy myself for the most part and then I have to quit for awhile. Must be MMO burnout setting in. 

Either burnout or the game only holds a mild interest, and doesn't generate the "need" to play. The mmos you sort of like, I find, are the most frustrating. You like it enough to keep playing, but not enough to really get your money's worth out of it. 

Or you just realize there is no real reason to rush to end game ...after hitting end game in about 15 different mmo's you realize chasing the carrot is fun waiting for the carrot to move sucks

No spam emails for gold selling sites in 4 days? .....No invites to gold selling guilds ?......No gold selling in chat ? What happened ?
Missed the boat on this one OP .....but you are a blast from the past
Originally posted by greatskys
Originally posted by Thomas2006

They really should spawn in a new instance it around 5-10 people. That would keep some challange to them but also keep the public feel somewhat to them.

The biggest issue is the boss camping. They have already hit the loot side of it. They just need to make it so that once you have killed the boss in a public dungeon it no longer gives loot or xp. That would clean up the issue, or just take it a step down the road and make it so that it doesnt give any loot or xp after you have completed it (killed the boss compeltes a public dungeon for you)

I agree they do need to be limited to a small number of people in the way you suggest . 

One and out solves the problem ...give great loot the first time through nothing after

Originally posted by BeansnBread
Meh, I feel kind of bad – for the guy. He sounds – overworked and almost – desperate. The really tough part – is next. People are going to hit 50 en masse – as this month winds down – and anyone that prefers PvE will expect some PvE content. Craglorn will be nice for some – but will it be enough to keep people interested?

More max level content then was offered in Daoc, WOW,AOC, Warhammer, Rift, Aion , GW2, Swtor,COH,Shadowbane and Lotro ...but not sure what you think is enough to keep people happy but it's enough in my mind to start

Originally posted by Siug
Logging in yesterday after being away for 3 days it was the first time when there wasn't a single mail from gold spammers in my mailbox. Been reporting those cunts for weeks and seeing progress now. Also, all my inventory and bank slots were still there. Give them a week or two more and most of the bugs are gone too. I'm sure of that.

I hear you on the mail ....funny though nobody else seemed to notice this +1

Originally posted by dbgager
What??? Only 5 buttons on the ability bar. Don't understand why they implemented this.

I see your point ...most people only use three skills and depend on auto-attack to do most damage , ESO makes you use 12 skills and no auto attack so it's quite a bit more complex then most post 2004 games . After about 30 hours of game play you'll start to master the skills required to play a game using 12 unique  abilities and then the sky is the limit in your development.

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by BurntCabbage

i agree they need to do something and get off their asses..its a good game i enjoy it..but i know iv reported the same bot like 5 times thats botting in a dungeon with 10 others n even took screen shots and still no action has been taken..but as some of my guildies and friends were saying we all think it will slow down a whole lot when all the WoW fan boiez leave  that just joined to try it out after the free trial is over or maybe after a 1 month sub fee

in not blameing or pokeing fun at them but if alot of people were talking about taking a break from wow **biggest mmorpg out there that sells gold / char / items** to try ESO **new hot mmorpg** it just spreads from word to mouth and the gold farmers see  this as a window to get more from the cash cow wow people that dont care to drop  a CC for stuff from them

Lets add another blame to the already long list of WOW.

WOW players are the reason why ESO has gold sellers. 


No wow players are the ones that have supported gold farmers and power levelers for 10 years ...not the reason why Eso has gold sellers

Originally posted by lifeordinary
Originally posted by sludgebeard
Originally posted by Vallador
Read about the duplication exploits plaguing TESO and consider if you can be the force to be reckoned with when the other guys run in duped legendary gear.

....ignore this post because obviously this guy has no idea what the duping bug does or the fact that they banned the hell out of anyone who used it. 

2 people in my guild who were involved in duping are back again after temporary bans. They still have their gold scattered on several alts and they love bragging about it. So i would say it is pretty profitable to dupe in ESO.

Pretty tough to stop duplication exploits when folks on these very forums condone it in their guilds

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