Originally posted by SupportPlayerMM
Defiance does have a large number of players only problem is they are split up due to 360 and PS3 communities being seperate... thanks Sony and Microsoft for being douche bags over this.

Actually, it was Microsoft that was being the douche in that respect. Sony wanted to be all on one and was willing to work with everyone, including Apple for the Mac versions. Microsoft said no, they will have their own servers. Guess the guys at Microsoft are still pissed about having to put blueray into their next machine.

I'm sorry, but IMHO there needs to be class imbalances. If everyone is the same, no one is different. Look at what WoW did. Back in vanilla, the factions were different in the fact their were class differences. Horde had shamans and Alliance had paladins as their faction specific classes and it was good time then in PvP. Then Burning Crusade hit and that was the end of that. No one had an advantage, only advantage was getting more people to one area faster than the others in all battlegrounds. The unique feel was gone as was the fun of having to face a class you could not play and get used to unless you rolled the other faction. Then the whiners really hit and the crying was unbearable to the developers and to shut them up they made everyone the same. No one could be unique in their class builds anymore cause the changed talent points and then took them away and gave you a choice of a class spell every 15 lvls. I really enjoyed WoW and played thru Mists hoping to be able to continue enjoying it, but sadly that is gone along with any uniqueness of any class or faction.

Originally posted by ciid
Do not buy this shit. It will be free to play or dead in less then 6 months. With the exception of the main story line wich is not a good story you will spend 95% of the time doing the blandest fetch/kill quests mowing down  the same 10 npcs over and over. If you are intrested in the game and must try it please try the beta first. There are way to many good games out there that deserve your time and money over this pile of poop.

  BUY TO PLAY, no sub idiot, just like Guild Wars 2. There are challenges that people try to top other with and reap rewards from no matter how many times you do them. Lots of random encounters as well. My guess is that you probably played for less than 30 min if you were in beta at all. I've seen this same kinda crap spewed about games that are 3+ years old, just because the person did'nt know how to play in the first place. It's not a typical MMO, is a persistant shooter. Think COD Black Ops 2 on an MMO scale. Only gripe I have has been the same as many, the UI.

Originally posted by Jeroam
am i missing something, or is that mostly it? i cant be bothered being interested, if theres no sandbox elements, and just boring fetch quests.  mybe the occasional pvp, but doesnt actually have any real meaninful rewards for it.

 To be quite frank, just play the beta and learn for yourself. I am having a blast (pun intended) going around and finding random quests and the Ark Fall events are bitchin. Was in one last night that had at least 75 or more in it and no hickups, no lag, no nothing, just pure run and gun. It does have a small learning curve cause it is not a typical MMO. But once your past that, it can get crazy at times.

Originally posted by drtack1

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by drtack1

Wow $60 to buy the game and then yousay the pree pass is on discount right now at $39.99? WTF is that shit? This is not the norm for shooters. 

You put out a DLC pack at regular price that cost $50? Seems a little steep for me considering the norm for map packs and what not in the shooter world is 20 bucks.

so far this is a $110 dollar game LMMFAO!

I was excited about checking this game out and seeing how it plays out...........but to be quite honest this article has turned me off.

 They said for the next 5 DLC packs. If the norm is $20 and they are offering 5 for $40 then yes, it would seem like a discount going by the norm. 

 

So far this is $110 for the game and next 5 DLCs. 

 

It may benefit you to read the whole thing because it would appear you have not. 

You obviously missed my point. $20 would be the norm for all 5 DLC combined. Not $20 each. 

 

X-Box 360 price for DLC on Black Ops 2 is 1600 microsoft points which cost $20. $20X5=$100 Season Pass For Black Ops 2 is 4000 Points which is currently $50, so yes, that is a bargain at $40 for 5 DLC packs. Season pass on Steam for Black Ops 2 is also $50. So $20 for all 5 is not the norm.

Do I believe or not if CoH was profitable. Yes, they were. Anyone who bought the game when the x-pansion Going Rogue came out would have to have been a subscriber. Why do I say this? Basically when the game went FTP, it cut off everything that was good about the x-pansion. The new contumes and powers were not available in the FTP side, only the subscription. Before people jump up and down, it was in the Faq's and basically stated that in order to access Going Rogue you had to sub, I could not access any of the powers or costumes when I decided to give it a shot. Tried to keep going back and kept checking the website for any changes and none came.

I say that if your gonna cut off a big chunk from the FTP players, don't make it the stuff they have already paid for if they were former subscribers. It has the tendancy to piss people off. Played for almost  5 years from mid 2005 to early 2010. Took a break, then came back for Going Rogue and played till May 2011.  Took another break till after FTP, went live and saw that NCSoft no longer cared about people who had bought their products, they just wanted more money. Kept trying to get back into it, but was nagged by the feeling of" We got your money, go screw yourself if you don't want to sub to keep the stuff you paid for". Finally uninstalled in Jan 2012. Used to be a good game, but I think NCSoft bigwigs just started getting more dollar signs in their eyes and it was'nt coming from CoH enough.

Just read this article and was wondering, how many people would still support Sony if it happens?

www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/03/report-new-sony-patent-blocks-second-hand-games?utm_source=Targeted%20Blasts&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking+News:+Sony+Discs+Patent_11145_587933_587940&utm_content=6232486

I for one will not as I buy a lot of my games second hand. Hopefully they won't do this as they would lose out completly to Nintendo and Microsoft. Unless Microsoft does the same, then Nintendo would be loving it.

Quite frankly I have been wondering why they released in such an unfinished state as that none of what they were claiming was in the game? They were trying to say it was a beta, but  that's what testing is for? Why release a product in beta as a finished product other than just a money grab and to hell with the buyers. I was thinking about getting the game, but not now. If they are not gonna put out a game in a finished state, then the game is not worth a second look.

People were all up in arms about ToR when it was put out and yet it could be played all the way thru with what they said was gonna be in it. A lot needed fixing because of bugs and such, but at least it was in the game.