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Originally posted by akiira69
I stated this on the subject of Reddit and Ill reiterate it here for the OP. Unless you privately own the Message Board you do not have Freedom of Speech or Freedom of Press. Every time you sign up to post on a Message Board you agree to the Terms of Use and Code of Conduct that is set by the Message Board Admins. They(the message board admins and forum moderators) can interpret these rules as they see fit, and ban people as they see fit. If you dont like this fact then dont register for public forums. It is just that simple.

Don't quote the law and look at whats right and wrong morally, because stoning someone to death in the middle east is legal,  doesn't make it right and will never make it right to me.

I get there are rules, but who goes to such lengths to enforce a rule most others don't simply because you're jelous and scared of what someone said.

I just find is pathetic quite simply put, and they MAY have had the right to do what they did but the fact THEY DID shows what kind of people they are.

Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Chattaway
 

and is opposed to wrongful bans on forums that state no such rules against it? 

um, Chattaway, did you actually read their guidelines? 

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

General Rules

Do not do any of the following:

  • Derail a thread's topic

Off-Limit Topics/Replies

Do not post any topics/replies containing the following:

  • Soliciting, begging, auctioning, raffling, selling, advertising, referrals
 
 
And you would have to tell us if this was applicable. I'm going to assume no "just because":
 

Repeated Offenders

Repeated offenders of the above rules and guidelines will be banned from the Steam Community. Any moderator has the ability to ban a user for violating the rules at their discretion.

 

Well they did not state referrals was the reason for being banned, and if simply linking what i did counted as that they interesting how i never been banned before this for the same thing, so the devs are just paranoid, controlling and insecure then.

Originally posted by LacedOpium

 

What is it about this forum that people feel the need to come here and bitch about how they were treated in other forums.  WE don't know you.  We weren't there so therefore we do not know any prior warnings, foul behavior, or questionable history that might have contributed to this ultimate ban.  A forum poster's history does matter.  And we do not have the benefit, or the need to know, to be able to comment accordingly.  Its a bit presumptuous of you to think that anyone is going to boycott this forum and/or product simply because YOU want justice.  Your problem dude.  Deal with it and move on.   

Bit of an untish thing to say... and i can assure you i did not do anything before this post to contribute, but im guessing your a LIF fan so lets leave it there.

But if people don't speak out against this crap they nothing will be done, just like with day 1 dlc, steam mods for sale etc, big youtubers speak out about this because its WRONG and if we are all complacent with crap then your like one of those human beings who says screw the starving poor person, i'm rich and full.

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by YashaX
Originally posted by DMKano

OP - steam is a storefront - advertising other products will result in bans.

it's like standing inside of a clothing store cusomer service area and telling people with questions to go to the other competing store - you are gonna get thrown out.

 

If MMORPG.COM had direct sales for MMOs like steam, advertising competition could result in loss of revenue hence it would be bannable.

 

If the OP had been spamming that in various threads I could understand a warning and then a ban if he continued on like that. However, based on what I see here, it is despicable moderation. I have read the steam forums quite a bit- they are not stopfronts they are "community hubs" - separate to the store page.

I have seen people mention other games/software in the forums for other products on steam, but the mods are fairly congenial about it, usually they just ask the poster to not talk about other games/products if they have a problem with it.

I think it is really important for us as consumers to keep forums as open as possible and to hold moderators accountable for their actions. In this case it seems pretty black and white that the devs or whoever is moderating that forum is far too sensitive and we should have no issue with condemning them for that- it should reflect, and in this case tarnish, their image. (And it has for me, I won't play the game if I confirm they have that kind of attitude).

 

 

Oh steam forums are directly tied to the storefront - heck you can see buy now button right above the comments.

If this was some random forum that had no links to direct sale - nobody would care.

Potential buyers read steam forums and often make purchase decision on what they read.

 

I agree with you that it was "over the top" ban - the vast majority of companies wouldn't ban over this - BUT some do, and it's clear why. IMO this is not ban worthy at all.

So we're really discussing here internal company policy that we have zero control over - as we're not mods nor devs.

In the end each dev studio can ban as they please for whatever they please, but even in unjust bans one always must consider their own part in it.

And that's something OP is not willing to look at yet - his own actions despite how unjust the outcome might be.

 

 

 

I come from england and freedom of speech is allowed, i i go and stand in a shop tomorrow and say you can buy this game cheaper at that shop i doubt anyone would kick me out.

Originally posted by Scorchien
Originally posted by Chattaway
Originally posted by Drakaden
Originally posted by Chattaway
Originally posted by Drakaden
Originally posted by Chattaway
The STEAM forums don't have no such rules from what i can see, they are on the steam forums not their own forums, i said my post on the steam LIF forums not the LIF.COM forums. they don't get their own special rules for their steam forum.

I once got temporarily banned by reporting bugs on steam forum for a game named Dex because i was saying spoilers without hiding them, from what i gather the game companies can apply their own rules on their steam forums.

No i'm pretty sure that's across every steam forum, you're not allowed to spoil any game without saying so...

"Look what i found"

MAIN CHAR DIES LOLOL

Well i didn't read the steam policies so you might be right, in any cases i'm not sure you'll get much sympathy from anyone for trying to lure away people from a game in their own domain, and most certainly nobody will be able to do something about your ban, and this will certainly not prevent people from buying the game.

Hopefully people with standards and the right morals will see what they did as shamefull and wrong and will not buy their game, even if 1 person only see's their ways and refuses to buy their game then that's one soul saved, It's not sympathy i'm after it's Justice.

FFS , get over yourself .. Shameful , wrong ... morals .. wtf they banned you advertising another game in there forums .. nothing wrong with that ... Dam dude grow a pair and move on .. only shame i see here is you crying over a friggin game forum .. lmfao ...

But you're crying over my post about crying?

Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Kyleran

Look carefully at what you did.  A person wrote a post asking 3 questions, you didn't attempt to answer any of them, you simply posted a link to another competing game, of course they banned you.

Perhaps with a well thought out reply the person might have bought the game, but the world will never know.

Yeah, I think this is the "right" of it.

@op: you aren't really looking at what you did and you keep repeating "I talked about games on other forums ..." so stop that. Great that you could do that but forum rules are different from one forum to another.

 

First off, I don't think you should have been banned. Not even a temp ban. A simple reminder (couch it in the language of "warning" if you want) is all that was needed.

Essentially someone in a "store" had questions and you didn't answer the questions you just referred them to another game. Those "forums" are more than just "forums", they are places where they are trying to sell their product.

Now, I have to repeat "again" that I don't think any ban was needed just a "hey man, just a reminder that these devs are trying to sell their game and it's always hard for indy devs so please don't suggest competitors in these forums" would have sufficed.

But, as Kyleran very wisely pointed out they banned you for a very specific reason that definitely has its own logic.

Then why was no reason stated? they banned without reason, which means they msut be in the wrong because no forum should ban a person for talking about another game, people talk about other games in forums all the time, go look at the world of warcraft forums, peopel talk about a million different mmos there all day and never get banned. like the other guy said, freedom of speech is pretty much dead when it comes to indie devs.

And as for the russian thing, yes it seems to be the russian devs who do these silly bans, i've never had this from any other place, i mean hell everyone and his grandma slagged mortal online off for another game on their forums at somepoint lol and never got a ban. But swedes are cooler i guess :)

Originally posted by Drakaden
Originally posted by Chattaway
Originally posted by Drakaden
Originally posted by Chattaway
The STEAM forums don't have no such rules from what i can see, they are on the steam forums not their own forums, i said my post on the steam LIF forums not the LIF.COM forums. they don't get their own special rules for their steam forum.

I once got temporarily banned by reporting bugs on steam forum for a game named Dex because i was saying spoilers without hiding them, from what i gather the game companies can apply their own rules on their steam forums.

No i'm pretty sure that's across every steam forum, you're not allowed to spoil any game without saying so...

"Look what i found"

MAIN CHAR DIES LOLOL

Well i didn't read the steam policies so you might be right, in any cases i'm not sure you'll get much sympathy from anyone for trying to lure away people from a game in their own domain, and most certainly nobody will be able to do something about your ban, and this will certainly not prevent people from buying the game.

Hopefully people with standards and the right morals will see what they did as shamefull and wrong and will not buy their game, even if 1 person only see's their ways and refuses to buy their game then that's one soul saved, It's not sympathy i'm after it's Justice.

Originally posted by Drakaden
Originally posted by Chattaway
The STEAM forums don't have no such rules from what i can see, they are on the steam forums not their own forums, i said my post on the steam LIF forums not the LIF.COM forums. they don't get their own special rules for their steam forum.

I once got temporarily banned by reporting bugs on steam forum for a game named Dex because i was saying spoilers without hiding them, from what i gather the game companies can apply their own rules on their steam forums.

No i'm pretty sure that's across every steam forum, you're not allowed to spoil any game without saying so...

"Look what i found"

MAIN CHAR DIES LOLOL

Originally posted by LordZeik
Just because you've gotten away with doing something in other places doesn't mean it is right. It's hard enough for some companies to make money as is in this industry. They don't need your help turning customers away or giving them alternatives.

DID YOU LOOK at my screenshot? and what the guy posted? he clearly was not interested in the game so i gave him an alternative, don't give me the it's hard enough crap, the biggest way to drive your customers away is to treat them like crap.

And now this is why steam has suddenly just decided to give people 14 days to get refunds for game purchases if they simply don't like the game, because they treat people like crap and GOG.COM and EA Origin even gave people refunds if they did not like or couldn't get a game to work, not only did steam break European LAW but they gave no care for their customers.

If by me simply stating there is another game is enough to dive the masses from LIF to Gloria Victus then i must have more power than i though, maybe i'm a Jedi or a Sith and can Internet Mind Control people?

 

The STEAM forums don't have no such rules from what i can see, they are on the steam forums not their own forums, i said my post on the steam LIF forums not the LIF.COM forums. they don't get their own special rules for their steam forum.
Originally posted by DMKano

OP - steam is a storefront - advertising other products will result in bans.

it's like standing inside of a clothing store cusomer service area and telling people with questions to go to the other competing store - you are gonna get thrown out.

 

If MMORPG.COM had direct sales for MMOs like steam, advertising competition could result in loss of revenue hence it would be bannable.

 

I've talked about other games on dozens of forums in the past and no one ever warned let alone ban me? but when it comes to a Russian indie dev they do? anyone getting WarZ flashbacks here? they also banned people for talking about other games, the only two i've ever seen and they were both Russian indie devs it seems.

I suppose dictatorship is still going strong in the motherland.

P.S. If i don't reply to this forum post after tonight, then i'm prob long gone in the night with a sack over my head being transported to the middle of a forest somewhere.

The only argument people give for them is i shouldn't have being talking about another game in their domain? i did not know this was illegal so to speak on a games forums? the amount of times me and many other people talk about other games on a games forums and never get banned, i used to talk about H1Z1 on DayZ forums, their devs never banned me, I talked about ESO on the LOTRO forums and never got banned, the only forums that seem to ban you for this are INDIE game forums but why? are they that scared that by me giving another guy an alternative their game sucks and everyone will not play it? nope but banning people in a Phill Fish attitude will.

So i wanted to buy this game, then some guy on the forum said this... and i simply replied with well if you pretty much don't like this game then try this one instead and then BAM Perma banned, i know indie games can have corrupt devs but seriously banning someone for something as little as saying the name of another game on the forum? really?

http://i.cubeupload.com/BnkSGs.png

Here is a shot, as you can see reason for ban? nope it's blank... so they don't even have a reason to give me for the perma ban, now i'm going to stay away from this game like the plague after this and you guys should do the same, thinking they can get away with this is disgusting, to think i was going to buy the game that day to with a friend, regardless to say we BOTH did NOT buy the game.

Now they got away with banning me on the steam forums because they had all the mod power there to abuse like they did, lets see if it happens on MMORPG.com also or if this will be allowed to stay to show people what kind of devs they are.

wtf again no keys left wtf? i check the email what 30 min if that after the email and they're all gone again ffs.
If they going to toy with us like this they can shuv their beta up their arse.
 
 
erm? "untill someone did it in 25 hours" well wasn't this their own testers who did this in 25 hours? trying to make out like they lied or were beaten or something when it was themselves who did it in 25 hours...
Originally posted by Rock_Mu
Originally posted by Chattaway

Eat bloodborne microsoft/bioware, wtf is the point of early dlc on pc and xbox one? what am i going to go and buy an xbox one or the game on my pc so i can play 30 days early? ******* joke this is, it serves to purpose other than to p people off.

Oh and i like how they say, other platforms to follow... yea OTHER OTHER platFORM to follow.

I'm sure people who were/are into Destiny are saying the same thing to Activision. It's not in any way, shape or form Bioware's fault. EA owns Bioware, EA made a deal with MS for overall exclusivity for DLC on most f their titles this gen, it is what it is. Instead of complaining about this one specific instance that you don't like, you should be mad at this "paid exclusivity" garbage in general.

 

I have destiny on PS4 and can say the exclusive strikes are utterly crap and boring and short, and the Exclusive weapons, i've never seen drop or had one.

An expansion for DAI is a much bigger deal and should never have happened in a RPG from bioware. But the whole lies about tomb raider exclusive to XB1 only crap they came out with just showed me how pathetic microsoft are, they know their new console is a weak joke and they're grabbing what they can before they go down this gen.

I mean the GPU in the XB1... shameful to say the least with all the xbox fanboys shouting, BUT BUT BUT DX 12 DX 12 DX 12 THE CLOUD OMG ESRAM"

Eat bloodborne microsoft/bioware, wtf is the point of early dlc on pc and xbox one? what am i going to go and buy an xbox one or the game on my pc so i can play 30 days early? ******* joke this is, it serves to purpose other than to p people off.

Oh and i like how they say, other platforms to follow... yea OTHER OTHER platFORM to follow.

Well after buying DAYZ a month ago after waiting over a year, and it still runs unplayable on my gtx 970 and 3570k @ 4.4 ghz, anything is going to be better that LagZ, at least we know this engine will run smooth even if on medium gfx, dayz i made every possible ini file min and still 15 fps in a town, just sigh....
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times... well i bought collectors edition...
So this is not like the PS3/Vita version and include FFX-2 also?
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