All Posts by elvenangel

Originally posted by rishaki

Pointless even making this thread, noone can tell yet.

Its more pointless because its completely Subjective.   Even when the game releases it'll still be completley subjective. 

*gets out a bag of popcorn to see how many people come to kill tr289 for AoC bashing* seriously lets not bash other games here especially ones that are fundamently designed for a different game style than WAR.   Its getting old at this point.

*sits back knowing someone is bound to show up with their flaming sword of kill*

Originally posted by Consensus

 

tresting. I seen from one of videos (postcast I believe) the map of the whole game posting up on a wall (coloured and black and white depending on wether its done). tier 4 is like 6ish times larger than tier 1.

 

are you certain each tier is one instance? if so apart from instanced battlegrounds (scenarios :P) etc. there'd be 12 zones at launch (3 times 4).

tier 4 might be alrger than any wow zone, but because the tiers are so different in size tier 1 could easily be much smaller than barrens, something you have to consider.

I do understand where your concerns are coming from but at the same time you have to take into account the design of the game along with the podcasts & other information thats available.   I guess maybe for me its easier to understand the design & server needs etc since I deal with stuff like that on a daily basis. 

With today's technology there's really very few reasons to zone off / instance off areas unless your dealing with extreme amounts of data.  AoC is definitly dealing with extreme amounts of data not to mention seemingly bad server code.

WAR still has alot of data atleast from what I can gather from the design needs but its got limitations like Racial Pairings etc to limit how much it really needs to process.  Plus they are sitting ontop of a MAE which pretty much bypasses over half the travel distance of the data.

btw sunder im guessing it was a compliment? lol :) my painkillers slow me down alot totally sucks

It won't be the same...and the dev's mentioned that the areas get 'bigger' the higher the Tier.   AoC has smaller & larger zones along with Clone'd instances of each zone if they get full.   WAR is not implementing this and techincally there's far fewer 'zones' as well each Tier is essentially a single Zone that contains both Racial Pairings.  The zones are filled up with Areas and the Zones are "open world" which they've stated numerous times.

The Dev's have actually stated that the Tier's are infinately larger than any zone you'll find on WoW (the biggest being the Barrens I believe).  So that pretty much covers All the Tiers.

WAR's gameplay mechanics pretty much require the areas to be completely openw orld and not split off.  AoC's on the other hand does not.  There's no reason that the zones & areas can't be instanced in AoC nothing depends on those areas.   WAR's gameplay mechanics rely on the control over the Tier..it'd be impossible to properly calculate Tier control if the areas were all split off and cloneable. 

Its really getting silly to continue to compare AoC & WAR their core designs are fundamentally different.   It'd be like trying to compare UO to WoW or Lord of the Rings to DDO.

if im being incoherant I blame it on the pain killers for my back lol

oh yea *notices the ESRB comments*  adding smoking & drinking doesn't get you a mature rating even in the US unless its gratitious (as in happens alot and its required for certain necessary gameplay mechanics).   It does get added to the list of warnings for Teen content though.    I do think its funny when uppity parents think kids learn to smoke & drink from movies & games when they really learn it from hanging out with certain friends and being unable to think for themselves or they just don't care (rebelliousness).

Hell when I was a teenager i only smoked a few times just to piss off my parents and they honestly didnt' care if i went somewhere and Drank as long as I called them and Told them first & i promised not to drive anywhere.   It took the fun out of it ...so needless to say I never got into either activity for more than short periods lol.  My parents had the give them some space to make decisions but if you mess up you get punished lol.  

Personal hype level 10 for me..especially after finally getting my hands on it.  

Complaints about the art style & lowering the score seem ludacris if you ask me especially since changing the art style would mean its NOT Warhammer.   Though I can understand minusing a point over it not being 40k if you prefer Gun / Frag fests over fantasy games....in the end the poll is completely subjective but thats what makes it fun yes? hehe

Originally posted by AlphaCoyote

 

Originally posted by elvenangel

 

Originally posted by AlphaCoyote

Well since you generalised "America" I guess we can include Canada, Mexico and hell we might as well throw in South America too. Guess what, random killing just doesn't happen in America.

Back on topic. They will most likely have drinking in the game, not sure about smoking though.

I'm not sure what country you live in but there are plenty of random killings in America every day dude.  You must not watch the news much...but Random killings happen everywhere not just here in the US so I understand what you were thinking.

 

 

Uh, I guess you meant to quote the other guy instead of me? Because I missed the part where I said it didn't happen in the US. So uh, thanks for repeating what I said?

Grammatically you Did say that it doesnt' happen in America.  Just Doesn't Happen in America means a completely different thing than Random killings don't happen in just America.

So I was right in replying & quoting you my friend :) but since it seems to be just a grammatical typo its all good misunderstandings happen often on forums.

The zealot and the Disciple of Khaine are Healers.   If you want something close to the Warlock look at the Dark Elf Sorcerer & the Magus.  They're both into dark twisted spells.

Originally posted by AlphaCoyote

Well since you generalised "America" I guess we can include Canada, Mexico and hell we might as well throw in South America too. Guess what, random killing just doesn't happen in America.

Back on topic. They will most likely have drinking in the game, not sure about smoking though.

On topic I think it'd be great for role players but I'm gathering from what the dev's say they're not to focus'd on the role playing part...Lord of the Rings is definitly going to remain top dog in that department its awsome the RPG stuff they have in.   Hopefully if we're lucky someone can convince the WAR devs to give us more emote possiblities for RP.  I suspect though they'd have to make different emotes for every race I hardly doubt I'd see chaos doing much else other than killing and playing with dead body parts.

They do have a community leader and the Community Leader has nothing to do with what MMORPG.com has posted in its listenings.  Thats a complaint you send to the Web Mods here.   WAR Dev's almost never come here they all tend to hang out over at WarhammerAlliance.com

I totally agree Leucent lol :)

Mythic's NDA Is pretty open...you can say your in it..you can say you like / hate it...you how ever can't talka bout any details that the Dev's haven't made public.

I think its ludacris to compare a game geared towards Raiding & Hardcore Guilds against a Community / Co Op geared game like WAR.

I'll be playing WAR but the subjectiveness of which game is better I won't comment on.   I know what I like and what I'm look for and I've chosen the game thats offering the best choices for me.  Nuff Said.

Originally posted by Coldren

 

Originally posted by elvenangel

 Everquest 2 allows you to be logged out of the game and chat to logged in guild members from a web browser.   They also allow you to see your stats, etc as long as you Pay Extra.   You can't how ever interact with your character unless your in game (huge HUGE security risk to allow interactivity).    Any further access through a browser or Messanger to the game for something other than chatting is a huge Security risk.

 

 

Oh, heavens no! I wouldn't want to be able to interact with the CHARACTER... Just chat and do guild operations (Promotions, set meeetings, etc..).

Anything else, you might as well be logged in to the game. :D

ahh i see :) when you said other things i wasn't quite sure what you were getting at.  No idea what they're doing on the web front they've only hinted at lots of work with web communities ... I'm curious at what they'll do if they had a guild chat feature that'd be pretty awsome.

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Originally posted by Coldren

 

Originally posted by djaspor

Various games, including EQ2, have this.  I think from what the devs have said, this may already be something they are planning on.  They want to make sure, even when you are not in the game, you can know what is going on the game.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of them have done it in real-time before, that I'm aware of. Like you were in the game?

If so, I've never seen it done.

Everquest 2 allows you to be logged out of the game and chat to logged in guild members from a web browser.   They also allow you to see your stats, etc as long as you Pay Extra.   You can't how ever interact with your character unless your in game (huge HUGE security risk to allow interactivity).    Any further access through a browser or Messanger to the game for something other than chatting is a huge Security risk.

Thats utterly ridiculous!   Look like Dark Age of Camelot! Blasphemous and not to mention GW would of told Mythic to step the hell off.    Your out of your ever loving mind.

IF thats your only issue then your right there is nothing to counter idiocy.

You keep waving the NDA around like its some blanket to cover all your SUBJECTIVE opinions.  You may not like the art but most of us do.  You may not like that its combat system as far as how you press the buttons is standard but most of us like beign able to jump into a game and not have to spend X Days figuring out how the hell simple mechanics work.

When the NDA lifts I'll have plenty to say your not the only one who's in the Beta around here.  Your just the only one whining over stupid things like the Art Style.

Personally im tired of X billion threads on whining over the art style.  Boo frigging Hoo.   If the game is fun who the hell cares what it looks like.

but yet your enjoying AoC Cabe thats whats hilarious...

WoW - End Game Teir'd Raiding system (carrot)

AoC - End Game Teir'd Raiding System (carrot)

WoW - Seperate PvP System

AoC - Seperate PvP System

(granted they differ entirely once you get past the surface but still you can't start PvPing until a higher level and its an entirely seperate mechanic from the rest of the game)

WoW - heavy guild needs

AoC - heavy guild needs

WAR - Ingrated PvE/ PvP progression system

WAR - no Raid Progression

WAR - guild & community needs

 The only thing that Sets AoC out from the pack is its arrow combo system it took from a single player game and its Guild Player Cities & Siege Keeps and some shallow Surface things oh and Graphics can't forget that. 

The funniest thing is ...its us as players that Define what path we take to progress many get pissed at the carrot and ignore the fact they dont even have to follow the carrot.  Its the fact the carrot is there that they think they're obligated to only do what the carrot leads them too.    WAR allows us to progress in any method we want but people will always whine about the fact there are Carrot Quests for people who LIKE to adventure through quests.   If you dont want to do the things that remind you of WoW try doing something else like roaming on your own or only playing the RvR siege zones.

it'll be nice when the NDA lifts and I can fully counter you Cabe...to be honest I dont see why your whining.  The games are made for different people.  AoC has launched and its for hardcore / elites that thought WoW wasn't hard enough (it compares to wow so much more than WAR which cracks me up that you like it more than WAR).   WAR has not launched your only getting peices of the game at a time.  Your choosing which path to progress through unlike AoC where you have to PvE only to progress.   If your unhappy with the PvE progression just PvP progress for pete's frigging sake.

But to each their own Cabe.  Play AoC and enjoy the Teir'd Raiding system when its fixed and the Guild Only Sieging when its finally turned on.    I'll be enjoying the community based activites & solo activites of WAR.

yea it is pretty much ironic isn't it Mark? lol...and im not even sure who he's calling me a fanboi of..if its of AoC I think I threw up in my mouth a little.   The guy is obviously a noob.

Originally posted by Black_Elvis

 

Originally posted by elvenangel

AoC is that game..it caters to the raiders, the hard core ffa pvpers,  and those looking for more freedom. 

 

1. No end-game content for raiders.   Check.

2. GMs that discourage PVP on PVP servers. (to the point of being punished themselves).  Check.

3. Freedom to chose from a whopping 1-3 zones per level bracket.  Check.

 

Elvenangel your posts are, quite frankly, becoming rediculous.  Fanbois fool no one anymore.

Hey I never said Funcom's customer service worked and im not insulting AoC so I don't see why Your calling names here.   Infact AoC has End Game Raids even if they are broken, it has tons of FFA PvP although a few GMs went over board and they were punished according to the forums.   There is more Freedom since you get to build player cities.  

WAR does not have an End Game Tiered Raiding System it has one single raid per race thast open to everyone.    WAR does not have FFA PvP and it doesn't allow you to build your own city.  

AoC is a game that caters to the more 'elite' player and there's nothing wrong with that.  There's very FEW games that do.  Infact if Funcom can pull their crap together those people will stay with AoC and not complain about WAR's offerings when it releases. 

Personally I'm not into any of those things so I'm quite happy to eagerly await WAR. 

If saying another game is good for a particular set of players is fanboism against or for a game then you must be out of your mind.

You can Step off Black Elvis because your nucking futs.

Originally posted by Leocifer

Originally posted by Battlekruse

If you're complaining about graphics, the beta graphics are locked on low settings, and lighting/shaders aren't even finished. Even Crysis will look like shit if you set the game on it's lowest settings and remove lighting and shaders from the game.

  i beg to differ, even on the lowest setting crysis still looks good.

to bad Crysis bombed because of its fantastic graphics lol.  I felt like I was playing Far Cry with a fancier skin.