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Originally posted by Rhoklaw
My philosophy is this. If a game offers everything I could want but the community is horrible, guess what, I don't play the game. I will play a mediocre game with an awesome community before I'll play the perfect game with a community full of ass hats.

But you invested $500 into the repopulation.  Do you really think the community is going to be any better just because each faction has a 3rd of the map as a protected area?  

Why do you think the repopulation won't suffer the same kind of community pitfalls that every other sandbox MMO with a large emphasis on PvP has, what you so eloquently described as "ass hats"?  

To be honest I think it's more a case of pick and choose.  You'll tolerate it in a game that you like, or at least have invested a substantial amount of money into, as opposed to one you don't like.  

I really do believe that the problem isn't the community for most people like the OP, but the game itself; the community is just a convenient excuse because few people are willing to admit its them.  As in, the game isn't for them, and instead of accepting that they blame the community.  

When you get right down to it the OP is really just saying that other people had an impact in a game that thrives on players being able to have an impact on other player, and he didn't like it.  

No one ever says, I played EVE and another player had an impact on me and I didn't like it.  It's always, the community sucks so I'm not going to play and neither should you.  

Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD

When it comes to 'will VR be a hit' its really anyone guess. I am only suggesting my prediction on the matter.

Back in the 90s when I saw 3rd person view being used in action games I thought that was the stupist thing I had ever seen and to this day I am still perplexed as to why its so popular. So its completely possible the VR could tank.

But the reasons you give I have to address.

 

And I've giving you reasons why I think it won't be something that changed our lives.  I think it will be a very successful niche product like the 3dtv. 

 

Look ok at the Nintendo wii everyone wanted one it was the new way to play video games...a few years later Nintendo u not such a hit anymore.

 

kinect from xbox again a new interesting way to play video games and control your home entertainment.  I personally think my brothers xb1 kinect is a pretty cool feature but I understand not everyone does and it probably won't advance much.  

 

All these examples I have given you are examples of ways to enhance your viewing or gaming experience just like the Rift, I can't help that you want to plug your ears and scream so you don't have to hear that.  Based on these past products that's why I feel that VR won't be a mainstream success anytime soon.  

ok I think you and I are done. 

I have already explain in detail and just about 30 mins ago how 3dtv is not like VR. You might as well be comparing VR to beenie babies.

what I wish you could understand is how 3dtv is different from VR but I dont think I can explain it

 

Oh I understand their differences the difference between us is I also understand the similarity something you clearly are too hard headed to accept.  They both again get ready for this...hold on...you ready...here it is...they both were invented/created ok here it comes it's going to be a shocker....to ENHANCE ONES VIEWING EXPERIENCE!!!!  No matter how many times you try to dodge that main FACT IT WONT CHANGE THAT FACT!!

then why not compare VR to a video card?

Doesnt a video card 'enhance viewing experience'?

dont you find it at all interesting how this VR van boy was NEVER  INTERESTED IN 3D

this is why I am not convinced that you do understand what VR is.

 

Oh I understand what 3DTV is.

i understand what VR is.

i understand what you are.  

Oh I didn't like 3dtv but I'm obsessed with VR that means they are not the same at all.

Oh my opinions are facts and you are wrong.

Dont ask me for links I dont remember where I got or heard the information I'm passing off as facts.

I don't think you will ever understand this very large world we live in does not and will never revolve around your interests.  Sorry to break that to you bud.  I would post some things you were interested in and predicted that didn't turn out but you will just get all embarrassed for being called out again and hit the report button in an effort to hide the fact the world doesn't revolve around you.  

But you're just doing the exact same thing he is.  

If "nobody" cared about VR, Facebook wouldn't be trying to dump 2 billion into it, zenimax wouldn't be trying to get ahold of it, Sony wouldn't be making it, and google wouldn't have people working on a sdk kit for their android OS.  

I think some people are downplaying and other overplaying.  

Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
If something loud went off in fanfest the world would only grin.

Did you seriously just say that no one would care if someone set a bomb off at fanfest?  

Thats what that sounds like, so I would really like to know wtf is wrong with you?  

And you think you're better than the people playing EvE?  Wtf.  

Loud, as in outcry/noise. But feel free to draw your own conclusion... ;)

Edit:  I'm just going to do the right thing.  

 

Originally posted by Foomerang

Combat would be really fun if they halved the gcd and cast times.

The GCD was my only problem with combat.  My summoner had a lot of instants and the GCD felt like it messed up the rhythm of my rotation.  

 

Originally posted by mayito7777
Eve Online the best social experiment that proves how low humans can descend.

So you're saying that the OP's experience, and the EVE community is worse than, say, real world genocide?  

Are you saying EVE descends lower than that? 

Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki

There are tons more theme-park MMOs out there than games like EvE. Find one and give EvE a pass if the play style does not suit you. But to come on a forum to cry about it and rag on a great game that many players like... well, says more about you and your character than it does about the EvE player base...

 

There is no crying in EvE. 

 

 

Calling some a crybaby because they are shedding light upon an evil social aspect of a community is a low blow. Refute his argument with evidence no calling him/her names.

Its a game. Going on crusades over things that happen in a game is silly. Condemning an entire gamer and player base over the actions of a few is childish. But I would expect nothing else from most of the MMORPG.com crows. I swear this site is the home of some of the whiniest malcontents this side of the net.

The adult thing to do if you don't like a game is to not play and move on. But oh no, why do that when one can engage in a quixotic crusade... 

Because that is the reason since the birth of human race that have cause many men and women to fight for freedom, against injustice and is the main reason why you today are not a slave but a free man, because many people before you fought against why they considered to be unjust, evil and inmoral. 

It's a game that allows player to fill the roll of a pirate or "the bad guy".   Not real life.  

At some point we should all be able to separate what is real and what is not, so as to not confuse real unjust, evil, and immoral actions from people just playing a game as it's intended to be played.  

I feel that it's far more concerning that some people don't appear capable of making the distinction between the two, and are comfortable equating mining bumping to real world actions that are unjust, evil, and immoral. 

It's a game, not real life; you shouldn't be investing that much emotion into it.  

[mod edit]

My god.  

Is it irony that many of the people that condemn the game have a habit of demonstrating a far worse attitude than the people they condemn the game over?  

If you're going to blast people for their attitude in a game, wouldn't it at least be prudent for you to demonstrate a better attitude yourself?  Or am I just not able to grasp the validity in, essentially, calling a community of people douches, while being a douche yourself.  

I really don't get it.  

Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
If something loud went off in fanfest the world would only grin.

Edit: responding was the correct way to deal with such a comment.  

Originally posted by rodingo
Originally posted by Uhwop

Privately owned doesn't mean what people think it means.  If by private you mean that there's a board of directors who control shares of the company though privately traded stock but aren't listed as a publicly traded company, that still requires capital investment, then sure zenimax is a "privately owned company".  

However, people keep using that to say that they aren't required to repay development costs, and are able to just pull 200+ million out of a personal bank account to make a niche game that doesn't meet expectations to such an extent that they need to delay the console release of that game.  Or that the board of directors is happy to make a game that doesn't appeal the majority of the fans of the single player series who they hoped it would appeal to, or even MMO gamers for that matter.  

Both EA and zenimax media have a board of directors that have financial goals that their respective studios are obligated to meet.

The only difference between the two companies is that EA sells its stock publicly and zenimax sells its stock privately.  Just because its privately traded doesn't mean that the stock doesn't suffer from poor performance, or that the stock holders will cut some slack.  

Who do you think is going to be more forgiving?  Some dude that buys a few thousand worth of EA stock, or the limited number of guys who invested millions each into zenimax stock?  

Zenimax does indeed have quarterly investor calls, it's all done privately though.  

This is key right here.  Rather people realize it or not, Zenimax indeed has people who are financially invested into the company and would most likely want a return in their investment.  If it means changing the sub model and their market research shows it will draw more money by doing so, well then guess what is going to happen...

So again, what can ZOS do to prevent this?  Some will say just stay the course as the way things are now.  If they don't change their sub model is it because of arrogance or do the devs know something about the MMO market that the rest of us players don't?

They're dedicated to the sub model, but it would be foolish to think they don't have a minimum number of subs that they require to either keep the game running or from converting to a different monetization method.  

That minimum sub number will also have a timeframe attached to it that they would expect to achieve that number of subs within that amount of time.  

The game cost to much to make, and zenimax is very large company (they put in the second highest bid, something like 26 million, to acquire THQ the other day.  On top of buying out id software and all of its IP's).  They aren't doing anything based on feeling or principles, they do things based in revenue and operating costs.  

Firor doesn't get the final say on how the game is monetized, and just because he says the game won't go free to play it really means nothing.  He's not in charge, the guys who sit on the board at zenimax media are the ones who call the shot, it's their money and stock at stake, not Firors.  In fact, I bet you the first change that gets made, prior to the game going buy/ free to play, will be Firor and Sage exiting ESO; spun as a mutual decision because god forbid anyone in their position ever admit they were fired.  

SE has really stepped up and done a hell of a job with this game.  One of the best PVE themeparks available, it's nice to see a column dedicated to it.  
Originally posted by pad07

i have been playing online games since the mid 90's and i have never been hacked either. it's a matter of common sense. some people lack some of it and some are just plain too naive.

 

wow it's surprising to me that hey have more than 16k alpha testers. that's nice! looking foward for a chance to get in or beta. wich i  can afford to buy to get in. :P

 

Yes, it was a lack of common sense and being naive that lead to WoW accounts getting hacked after visiting a popular WoW related website, which prompted blizzard to start offering authentications to help protect people.  

Your statement is very naive and lacks common sense because it assumes that every compromised account is the fault of the account holder, when many times it is not.  It would be like me assuming you never made it past elementary school because you didn't use a single capital letter in your post; that wouldn't be fair, now would it? 

You're also assuming that these are hacked accounts, even though I've not seen people complaining about their account being banned for nothing.  Because they obviously can't be legitimate accounts that were actually cheating.

Originally posted by kb4blu

I think EVE is an example of players running a game.  However this is not a good thing.  

There is an alliance in EVE that seems to get their way.  Anyone who plays EVE knows who I am talking abput.

 

You mean there's an alliance in EVE that works together to do exactly what the game expects players to do? 

The GSF never "got its way" for any other reason than we worked to achieve goals using the same tools available to every other corporation in EVE.  We never had a dev in or corp giving us BP's to provide an advantage.  We did, however, play an instrumental role in taking down an alliance that did have a dev helping them.  

 

OP may want to check out Face of Mankind.  It's entirely player driven, and I believe it still requires the players to create quests.   Saga of Ryzom may be another one to check out, but it's not quite as player driven as something like EVE or FoM.  

It's not a ban.  It's NCsoft policy to lock an account when the login shows a different IP address from the original.  I've had this happen to me a few times after moving from one place to another.  It can be annoying but it's better than having them do nothing and the account actually be compromised and an innocent person get banned; something I've had happen twice in the past with WoW because blizzard didn't lock my account after it was logged into from an IP address that wasn't associated with my account.  

It's the equivilent of a credit card company putting a freeze on a card that gets used in a state or country that its never been used in before.  Something else I've had happen after my card registered a charge from California five minutes after I used it in Delaware.  

Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by Dilweed
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by Dilweed
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by Dilweed
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by sludgebeard

I keep seeing people saying EA.

 

What MMO's has EA themselves ever created? 

 

It has nothing to do with actual legit reasons,  it's all about the "cool thing to do" right now is hate on the big bad evil companies...well EA is one of those companies according to them so the sheep follow the other sheep cause it's "cool".

 

Bullfrog, Westwood, Origin, Maxis, Bioware, DICE, all gone, I'm probably forgetting a few.... Calling everyone sheep makes you what? cool?

Hmm Dice still involved with BF4 so not gone..getting info from a sheep are you?

Bioware still involved with ME, DA, Swtoe so not gone...getting your info from a sheep are you?

So lying on a post makes you what?  Cool?

 

 

 

Lol, I knew you were gonna say that, whatever dude, like DICE and Bioware are doing great, BF4 is one big bug fest and when was the last time Bioware made a good game like they used too? It is hard to destroy a studio in a few months, give it 2 more years. Anyway, ignorance is bliss, keep blissing, more power to you :)

 

/edit

Ow, you also missed one, Maxis is still around, remember simcity online? LOL

I hope you don't miss the sarcasm this time like you missed the irony last time

/edit2

I forgot the most important part, I'm already cool, no need to lie :D

 

Ignorant is bliss? A few months? No need to lie? Well this is the second lie I caught you in so stay cool I guess.

 

A few months?  They acquired Dice in 2006!!  They acquired BW in 2007!!  A few months hmm.  

So who is being ignorant and lying here??  Sure isn't me.  

Yep, just keep ignoring the other studio's that are also gone....

Has the quality of games from Dice and BW gone up or gone down since they are acquired?

thought so.

Keeping a brand name, doesn't mean the studio is still there, ow btw Mythic anyone?

Keep nitpicking my post and ignore my main point, that is how you do it.

He seems to think that because he sees dice and bioware that it means that the same company that made the games prior to EA are the same ones who made them after.  

Wonder why all the guys that created bioware left soon after EA acquired them.  

BF after EA has been horrible, how is it that the games get worse instead of better after EA gets the studio?  

Or maybe this guy didn't hear about the EA exec that pitched the idea of selling ammo in BF?   Not even as a what if, but a serious belief that that was the future of monetizing games.  

Yah, not liking EA is just about being cool and has nothing to do with them being a genuinely shitty company.  

 

BTW, my simcity game still doesn't frigging work properly, let alone do what it was advertised to when I purchased it, what, nearly 2 years ago?  

 

Geez I wish I was part of a genuine shitty company that pulled in over $1 Billion in revenue last year...that's billion with a B! A few here are a little butthurt towards EA but it's obvious a lot still like and play their games.  

Coke makes billions, doesn't mean they haven't literally taken all of the clean drinking water in several towns in Africa, used it all to make coke products and leaving none for the people to drink, and then shut down the factory that was the only source of income for most of those people, who now have to buy coke products as its the only thing that's safe to drink.  

 

Or maybe the billion dollar water companies that go into South American countries, buy all the water rights, and then prevent people from drinking that water unless they pay for it, been though they can't afford it.  Or maybe the water company that was responsible for a revolt in one country after they paid the government to outlaw the collection of rain water.  

Oh, did you know those same companies are doing that very same thing here in the US?  Indeed, they recently passed a law that makes it illegal to collect rain water in some parts of MD.  

Or how about Pepsi who wanted to buy the rights to the water in one of the Great Lakes, that was already publicly owned, so they could use it to make Pepsi products.  So much so that they started stealing the water and the community in the area had to go through a legal battle to get Pepsi out of the area.  Pepsi is another company that will use all the water in an area to the point that they are willing to drain entire lakes.  

Wtf does being a shitty company have to do with profits?  Generally speaking the shittiest companies in the world are the most profitable.  They get that way by being shitty companies, run by shitty people, who don't give a shit about the people they sell their products to.  

 

But hey, coke makes a lot of profit so who cares that they supported paramilitaries in foreign countries because they killed union officials, which helped to keep cokes operating costs down.  You don't have to believe me, the court records are public.  

Most people live in a bubble where they don't care what a company does as long as its not negatively impacting them.  Eventually your bubble will run out of air.  

 

PS I could also tell you about G. W. Bush exempting natural gas drilling from the EPA clean water act because Halliburton was the only company that produced all the stuff needed for fracking, the same stuff that caused the drinking water in many areas to become toxic after it was contaminated with chemicals and methane.  I guess I shouldn't care they're about to do the same shit to my water because they're billion dollar companies, one of which my former Vice President used to be the CEO of.  

Originally posted by SpottyGekko
Originally posted by rodingo
Originally posted by Loke666

If a game tanks because it can't keep players interested or isn't fun enough making it F2P is just putting a band-aid on the problem. Most of us have limited time and while we might try out a F2P game it still needs to be fun to keep us interested.

As I see it, ESO have serious issues it needs to fix. Making the game F2P could give the devs a second chance but they still need to fix those issues. Phasing, bots and really lame dungeons is a disaster no matter what payment model you use.

If I were Zenimax I would worry about getting the game better, once that is done you can talk about if changing payment model is a good idea or not.

That's the thing though.  Obviously there are people who the feel the game is fine and just want bug fixes.  Those are the people who are most likely still subbed.  However, obviously there are people who think the game still needs a lot of work to be worth the box price + subscription.  Some of those are still subbed but probably most who feel that way are not.  So the question is, which group of people is larger?  The current paying customers or their previous customers who canceled their sub, and would it be economically feasible to favor one group over another?   It seems like their are obvious warnings signs that ZOS refuses to see.

MMO's, rather being sub based or f2p, need players to make money obviously.  So I wonder (not the same as wishing or hoping) if a payment model change would bring more players in and give them more potential income quicker to work with to add those systems that they talk about such as their justice system, dark brotherhood, thieves guild and housing much sooner.

Zenimax is not EA. Zeni are privately owned, so they are not compelled to wash their dirty laundry in public (no quarterly investor calls).

 

We have no idea what exactly their expectations are for ESO. We don't know if they need a quick return on the investment or whether they are taking a long view on the franchise.

 

Nobody knows how the game will be received in the console market.

 

And don't forget that there will be future single-player ES games. Each time one of those releases, it gives ESO a potential player boost. It also opens new opportunities for cross-marketing (free ESO goodies as a bonus if you pre-order the next ES SPG, etc.).

Privately owned doesn't mean what people think it means.  If by private you mean that there's a board of directors who control shares of the company though privately traded stock but aren't listed as a publicly traded company, that still requires capital investment, then sure zenimax is a "privately owned company".  

However, people keep using that to say that they aren't required to repay development costs, and are able to just pull 200+ million out of a personal bank account to make a niche game that doesn't meet expectations to such an extent that they need to delay the console release of that game.  Or that the board of directors is happy to make a game that doesn't appeal the majority of the fans of the single player series who they hoped it would appeal to, or even MMO gamers for that matter.  

Both EA and zenimax media have a board of directors that have financial goals that their respective studios are obligated to meet.

The only difference between the two companies is that EA sells its stock publicly and zenimax sells its stock privately.  Just because its privately traded doesn't mean that the stock doesn't suffer from poor performance, or that the stock holders will cut some slack.  

Who do you think is going to be more forgiving?  Some dude that buys a few thousand worth of EA stock, or the limited number of guys who invested millions each into zenimax stock?  

Zenimax does indeed have quarterly investor calls, it's all done privately though.  

Originally posted by Dilweed
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by Dilweed
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by Dilweed
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by sludgebeard

I keep seeing people saying EA.

 

What MMO's has EA themselves ever created? 

 

It has nothing to do with actual legit reasons,  it's all about the "cool thing to do" right now is hate on the big bad evil companies...well EA is one of those companies according to them so the sheep follow the other sheep cause it's "cool".

 

Bullfrog, Westwood, Origin, Maxis, Bioware, DICE, all gone, I'm probably forgetting a few.... Calling everyone sheep makes you what? cool?

Hmm Dice still involved with BF4 so not gone..getting info from a sheep are you?

Bioware still involved with ME, DA, Swtoe so not gone...getting your info from a sheep are you?

So lying on a post makes you what?  Cool?

 

 

 

Lol, I knew you were gonna say that, whatever dude, like DICE and Bioware are doing great, BF4 is one big bug fest and when was the last time Bioware made a good game like they used too? It is hard to destroy a studio in a few months, give it 2 more years. Anyway, ignorance is bliss, keep blissing, more power to you :)

 

/edit

Ow, you also missed one, Maxis is still around, remember simcity online? LOL

I hope you don't miss the sarcasm this time like you missed the irony last time

/edit2

I forgot the most important part, I'm already cool, no need to lie :D

 

Ignorant is bliss? A few months? No need to lie? Well this is the second lie I caught you in so stay cool I guess.

 

A few months?  They acquired Dice in 2006!!  They acquired BW in 2007!!  A few months hmm.  

So who is being ignorant and lying here??  Sure isn't me.  

Yep, just keep ignoring the other studio's that are also gone....

Has the quality of games from Dice and BW gone up or gone down since they are acquired?

thought so.

Keeping a brand name, doesn't mean the studio is still there, ow btw Mythic anyone?

Keep nitpicking my post and ignore my main point, that is how you do it.

He seems to think that because he sees dice and bioware that it means that the same company that made the games prior to EA are the same ones who made them after.  

Wonder why all the guys that created bioware left soon after EA acquired them.  

BF after EA has been horrible, how is it that the games get worse instead of better after EA gets the studio?  

Or maybe this guy didn't hear about the EA exec that pitched the idea of selling ammo in BF?   Not even as a what if, but a serious belief that that was the future of monetizing games.  

Yah, not liking EA is just about being cool and has nothing to do with them being a genuinely shitty company.  

 

BTW, my simcity game still doesn't frigging work properly, let alone do what it was advertised to when I purchased it, what, nearly 2 years ago?  

What a jaded list.  

Cryptic was working with EA to make a real marvel mmo, EA screwed them over and they tried to make something of the work they they'd already done and made CO.  

NCsoft is the only other company to ever achieve the near level of success that blizzard has, and the only one to ever take a chance doing something other than WoW styled mmo's.  tabula rasa and AA were failing right out the gate, and you ignore what actually happened with those games in favor of a revised version of history.  

Its time to get over SWG, seriously, it's beyond pathetic at this point.  

 

You didn't even put EA in the you list, which really just boiled down to regurgitating the same tired tripe people have been spewing for years now.  

Fire firor and the the other guy, hire a new person who understands why people love the single player ES games and isn't hamstringed by an inability to be creative, and then do what Square Enix did for FF14:ARR.  

something tells me there problem is shifting from retaining player to getting new players into the game.  These changes aren't going to do that.  

Originally posted by CowboyHat
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by CowboyHat
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by Jacxolope
Originally posted by cheyane
You are quoting american law in China some women sold her boyfriend's sword ,virtual property. She had to pay for stealing it.

Sure- What China and Japan do is their right and their business.

I am more coming at this from an angle regarding the US because this is where I live and its my tax money being squandered (if they ever adopt this here) so a private corporation can save more money by passing their costs onto us.

I am in total agreement that Japan can do as it pleases and honestly I know very little about their law- They can provide capital punishments for wearing a red T-Shirt and it wont bother me...So long as this applies ONLY to their citizens .

Lol, tell everyone how a civil suit "squanders tax money". 

Especially when each party has to pay their own lawyer and the loser general pays ALL THE COURT FEES.  

Judges are getting paid whether they're presiding over a case or not.  Your money would be squandered if they weren't frigging working.  

 

I think I would rather have that judge preside over something important. Not waste time with this stupid case.

So this suit would be squandering the judge's time and therefore money. Right?

In 2009 there were 1.2 million civil cases filed in only the state of California.

A judge that presides over civil court cases is doing so because that is what they're paid for. 

A civil court judge is elected to preside over civil court cases.  

A civil court doesn't get to decide on a case by case basis what is "stupid" or not to determine its viability in court.  

A civil court judge is one because they chose to be.  It's a job they choose to do and then get elected to do.  

The only person whose time gets wasted are the ones waiting to have their case heard, that judge is there getting paid regardless of the number of cases there may be.  

 

Piling on cases like this will take up their time. I never said they get to pick and choose what cases they hear. The point is we don't need even more stupid lawsuits wasting time.

It's about money well spent, rather than wasted.

You don't seem to get this.   

There "time" isn't being taken up by more cases.  They're doing that 9-5 regardless of the number of cases.  

It is irrelevant in civil court how many cases are filed and of what nature.  They get paid regardless.  It's IMPOSSIBLE to squander tax money on a judge regardless of the number or quality of case they oversee.  

Every state has a set number of elected civil judges that is not determined by the number of cases filed in that states civil court.  They are not hired, they're ELECTED to the job, and are paid regardless.  

They could cut the number of cases in CA by 75% and it will not change the amount of money that is paid to them.  

 

 

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