I agree... people are judged because they are said to be noobs. But honestly, there are a lot of people in their own guilds or core raiding groups that suck more than me.

I was caught in a situation where, they didn't need me but then they needed me cause the raid, people kept dropping, and I find out that the asshat, was the raid leader, and you know he told me that I was under geared, but while I was in the raid, I held solid 3rd place, in overall damage and damage-per-second.  So this stupid achievement thing means nothing to regular people like me who have lives that don't raid constantly. Sucks for them their loss.

I think alot of people moan and groan... but I personally think this game will be great. It'll be a change from all the other stuff. I myself like the graphics... Kiddy graphics like WoW, just doesn't do it for me.  If you don't like the game then don't play. If you are looking for something totally new, umm MMO's are MMO's.

But I have to agree with a lot of you about the interview, it did suck. No new information that I already knew... Atleast give us more info about the game, or something....

And to the people who plan to play this, cya in game. ;)

Originally posted by Riverstar

I am finding it isn't a bad game, but I am getting frustrated with all the killstealing going on. As a priest I surely won't get the most damage when every mage likes to kill what I am trying to get credit for. Guess I will log for the night and hope that not a lot are on when I wake up early tommorow. Even switching channels it was jam packed.

that's how all the games start... :P just gotta deal with it... or party up...

Originally posted by solareus

Fair enough, but with games like Vanguard, when you first step into the world, you have a npc waving you over, that instantly makes you feel like a part of the world.

Aion as soon as I logged in for the first time, I had nothing, and the npc was so badly marked that I didn't even notice hime until a I  grinded to level.... and even then the quest dialogue was L2-esque from the first quest I tried. Very rarely will you get a game where the actual dialogue increases and makes you more immersed in the world. I find a game that game immerse you the instant your load your first character into the world, is a game that will have a higher retention rate for subscribers.

Aions immersive quality is supposedly to come later in higher levels, for a lot of people, it is the 21st century, we have 21st centrury lives that are moving so fast we have no time to sit arounsd and wait for it through repetive grinding unlike the Koreans who main stream way of life has been unchanged, since lineage 1.

Wow... I don't think you understood anything the guy who started the post was talking about... If you don't like korean games move on... don't start talking crap about the people who made it... you know there are many things wrong with Vanguards game when you first load it... if you can load it... LMAO... but hey that didn't stop me from playing it... If you want to say a game sucks... give a good reason... cause saying a game sucks cause you didn't understand the game is lame especially if you were playing the Chinese OBT... you should be grateful you were able to get in...

If you want a game that immerses you in... with an ongoing background story play Final Fantasy 11... right off the bat you get pulled in... But hey you seem like your not the grinder so you probably won't ever get to experience an awesome story...

I think WoW is farthest from Hardcore... When I think of hardcore, I think of EQ1, thousands of people fighting 1 dragon boss.  I think of Lineage doing the same... I think of FF11 that takes you 30 hours of your life to get to lvl 18 to get you a subjob so you can start to really play...  Rewards that are worth it... WoW has no rewards, titles, that do nothing You don't feel like you have accomplished anything especially when you know you spent 7 months to get all your gear and the guy standing there just turned 80 and they outrolled you to get something better.... 

WoW was made for the softcore person, and hey they admit it... why did they turn 40 man raids into 25... cause they felt it was too hard to get 40 people? Cause 40 was too hardcore... we have to make our content easier...  blah blah blah...

Originally posted by LordRiggs

Originally posted by Rikimaru_X

Sounds like you didn't put your beta key in. Did you do that yet?

 

Yup that is how I was able to download the client.

 

 and in my account management it says:

 

Account Type: Beta
Account Status: Playable

My advice would be call someone... :D

Originally posted by Cristina1

After trying Darkfall thi sAion seems liek a kids game, PvP you say? i dont think you kno whwat really pvp is ;p

I thought I would never say this but after games like Darkfall I dont think i can come back to these autotarget=WIN button+fetch me 10 rabbit tails x1000 games..........bye bye 2002-2008, roll on the next era of MMOs which actually require a brain to play.

Well don't hate on Aion... Your just into that type of game...  Maybe you like that 3rd person or 1st person style better doesn't mean a game sucks... Just go play the game you want... no need to hate... :P

Originally posted by Ketsum

Woot! I was worried they were going to drop the job system, but he refers to exspanding on it... only downside is I'm a cronic sufferer or "ALTitis" and "grass is greener syndrom"

 

I played FFXI for quite awhile and then left cause I just didn't have the time to keep leveling with the group or die method and I even came back to the game and played again for another couple months.

i do really hope they have worked out a way to stop the in game econony from going pear-shaped like it did on some servers sometimes....

I dunno this is only speculation... but the art on the official site... shows Whitemage clothing... bard... and a few other... It also shows a Mithra... So I think those things might stay the same... else why would they use FF11 art for FF14? Just speculation tho... ;)

Originally posted by shamall

The only thing that made me stop playing ff11 was the group or die gameplay. To hear that they are also not using PlayOnline is a plus. It seems like this will be the final fantasy mmo I thought I was going to be playing when ff11 came out. About freaking time.

They didn't say they aren't using playonline...

Originally posted by malidar

Hardcore MMO's are Dead.

Why?

 

And of corse this is just theory. And I am a core player.

 

We can't blame WoW. I think WoW is a shitty MMO, but besides the point, let's face it... It did well.

WoW brought casual gamers to MMO's. Being that there are many more casual players then MMO players, WoW boomed.

 

The MMO industry is a buisness. And like any buisness, you follow the money.

That is why you no longer see Core MMOs, just, simple-hold your hand casual 'MMOs'

 

Sucess of WoW changed the genre. Like making FPS into Puzzle games.

And because there are many more Casual players, developers will cater to their needs.

 

It sucks for all the Core players, I know. Only if money didn't matter right? Then we could have both.

 

After waiting so long for the FFXIV reveal, I see SE is making things easier for casual players.

 

My Last Hope. Gone.

 

MMO = Massively Multiplayer Online

You play together, not solo.

 

So all you casual players, go back to your single player games and leave our MMOs alone. Please.

 

I dunno... I think you are giving up too easily. Asian MMO's have never been for the faint of heart. WoW just made MMO's come to the forefront. But like you said it's true, there will be dumb mmo's and complex ones.  

FFXI has always been hard, and continues to be hard. 1 slip up and everyone ends up dead.  I'm sure they will take everything they learned from FFXI and put it into FFXIV, well their press conference even says so.  Hardcore MMo's i'd say wait for Aion, and FF14, most American MMo's seemed to depart from EQ1 days... Sad cause EQ1 was a freakin hard game, if you didn't have someone to power buff u to hell... 

Sure there will be easy MMO's and there will always be overly hard MMo's just gotta pick your game... You're not gonna like everything...  It's good that people like MMo's cause hey it gives a variety in devs and that just means that one day they might make a game that knocks your socks off... so don't hate, just appreciate... LMAO... GL on your quest to find a good game...

HEY someone else in the same boat... But yea i went back to FFXI playing it on and off... at the moment off... but honestly there is nothing else like it... Even the new games don't compare... The graphics might be dated but the gameplay is legend.

If you are looking to just kill time... GO LEARN TO PLAY AN INSTRUMENT! ;) that's what I did... waiting for the next FFXI is taking a while but in this time I learned how to play electric/acoustic guitar and bass guitar... ;) so Go get healthy and mind ready for the next game. I'm sure SE won't disappoint... :D GL!

Here is what Bluehole says about the games combat system...

If you want to read more go to BlueHole site below...

http://bluehole.net/eng/index.html

Oh and that Galka looking caster dude... looks FF11... ;) I want this game....

Continent of the 9th...

I just saw this recently... what are you thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85mtY1oh2IM

Give me your thoughts.. looks sorta like that PS3 game... darn forgot the name...

Originally posted by Koen83

Trully looks awesome. Waitng for this and TCoS. We will see what kind of gameplay it has tho.

When I was watching This, I thought about TCOS, but damn... TCOS has nothing compared to this... Free/form combat... but graphics, sounds, etc... yikes... TCOS is looking dated as it is... I was gonna try TCOS but now... I don't think I will... ;)

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

This sort of combat is not what I'm looking for in an MMORPG.

LMAO, then I guess u like the old style of targeting and auto targeting... etc... boring... no skill...  Free/form action combat is the best and provides a more fluid and intuitive gameplay... UO-> WOW and even WAR all use targetting... snores....  If you like to be engaged into your games, and actually be emersed in it... action combat is the best which is what I think a lot of people like better.... 

The MMO of old is too old time to move on to something more immersive.... you can't hang on to the past ;)

Originally posted by Sarbocabras

 This looks great although I'm scarcely excited considering all asian mmorpgs haven't been what the trailers were but regardless of that I'm not sterotyping asian developers I'm just not going to dwell alot on this game but Iw ill continue tp follow it.

LOL... cool but I have yet to see anything reach Tera's quality on the internet... Only thing that comes anywhere close is Aion...   The days of target attacking are of the past and outdated... Free action play is the future of MMo's well for a while... :D Hack/slash style with RPG, intensive modifications, reminds me of the older diablos, but this looks lightsyears away from Diablo...  Meaning even diablo 3 doesn't compare to this... Hope Blizz is looking behind their backs....

so what you all think about Tera?

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/10756.html

Looks crazy, and if it's like this, it's going to be one of the best MMo's

well what server are you on? if you are on garuda and still low level, I can help you level, yea it does suck only time to lvl low lvls are when new classes are introduced... but yea it take a lot of patience or help from a friend to get past those low lvls... goodluck

Originally posted by UpskirtPower

Aion is developed by the main NCsoft Korea. Guild Wars/2 is developed by an American studio. NCsoft is both a publisher and developer.

Guild Wars and Aion is two type of mmo. Guild Wars is called a mmo just cause theres a place/town where people meet up in massive. Aion is a full-fledge mmo.

 

American MMo's have too much hype and not enough Umph!... Also they are on easymode ie:WOW... I'm glad Aion is made from the Korean team, expect it to hammer you!