Originally posted by fierce750
Ryan Leaf

That's a good one.

I was thinking Bill Roper.

Originally posted by Souldrainer

 

 

On more serious note, what is the competition, exactly?

^This.

Originally posted by MMOExposed
What the bleep? What's the point of this if they have a tcg?

I play the TCG and, from what I've seen so far, this is nothing like the current TCG.

And the TCG is a licensed product, formerly to Upper Deck, currently to Cryptozoic. This is an in-house project.

Originally posted by jfoytek

Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Originally posted by Dihoru

Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Originally posted by SysFail

Originally posted by Doogiehowser

You are right OP considering that how successful sandbox MMOS are and how much money studios make from sandbox titles. Investors are foolish to put their money into ESO project which is clearly a themepark MMO. I mean who would want to dump their hard earned money just like that?

Fools i say.

Yup, EA got is spot on with the star wars IP and other companies are leaping to repeat the same model with well known IP's.

What is hilarious is that EA probably makes more money with a  failed  themepark MMO like SWTOR in comparison to all sandbox MMOS of which there is only one successfukl title EVE ONLINE and which is not even a fantasy / high fantasy title. lolz!!

o.O have you been smoking some strong shit while I haven't been looking again? Check your facts or better yet state your sources please.

I need to state facts now to show that themepark MMOS make more money and have more players than sandbox titles and that EVE ONLINE is the only successful sandbox MMO? who would have thunk.

It is very easy to prove what i said wrong by giving examples of very successful sandbox MMOS which would encourage investors to dump their money into sandbox projects. Got any?

Two recent Theampark MMO's

SWTOR - http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/08/01/five-lessons-learned-as-swtor-surrenders/

SWO- http://trekmovie.com/2011/05/17/atari-to-sell-star-trek-online-developer-cryptic-promise-continued-sto-support/

 

Sandbox's that are doing fine financially

Wurm Online

Eve Online

World War II Online

Atlantica Online

Perpetuum Online

***Ultima Online*** Based off of sheer longevity that its still kicking

 

Yes World of Warcraft is the Financial juggernaut but its not totally Theampark!  The Large majority of the game is a SandBox and that is the recipe of its success! 

 

Atlantica online is in no way, shape or form a sandbox.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Originally posted by Jenuviel

Originally posted by Puffington

Ooooo dude you guys should open on of those in.... oh one sec phone.

.."hello?"

Ah shoot dude it's for you, it's the 80's about something.

 

Wil Wheaton and Felicia Day disagree with you. March 30th is International Tabletop Day, complete with free stuff. Games are fun even if they're not played on a computer - sometimes especially if they're not played on a computer.

 

Thanks for that info. I had no idea there was an International Tabletop Day.

As an avid tabletop gamer/fan, I wish the OP nothing but the best in his endeavor.

Production quality?

That's all I've got.

Very important.

Rule #1: won't play an elf

Rule #2: won't play an elf

Originally posted by VoreDock
 just tell us what you think  good or bad and why   

Haven't played it. I have access due to my LTS in STO, but I've not seen anything about NW that piques my interest.

The last time I went ahead and bought a game that didn't really grab my interest, things went as well as I expected. It wasn't a total loss, though.

Originally posted by VoreDock
how could anyone not love this game  i know some of the fanboys are mad about how the ip was used but come on its core D&D  and it even makes grouping easy with friends or alone  with a ramdom group 

Careful, that ice is pretty thin.

/different strokes

Originally posted by Roxtarr
I gotta tip my cap to the OP.  He has a way with words.  I don't know much about Wizardry Online, so I appreciate the insight.

Words, yes. Sentences......not so much.

Gotta say, though, nice first post from an '08 lurker.

I bought D3 even though the always-online-DRM really grated on me.

I've been waiting for a new sim-city for some time, but the same DRM scheme made me walk away and not look back.

Originally posted by CalmOceans

Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Really? I get the exact opposite feeling from these boards.

I think this board represents a vocal minority.

Of that, I have no doubt.

Originally posted by VikingGamer

"Do you think instant gratification is ruining MMORPGs?"

No, I think that people who think every game should be built to their own personal preferences are ruining MMORPGs.

ding ding ding    We have a winner!

Came pretty early, too.

Originally posted by truthform

I've spent 500 hours in D3...randomness in loot disgusts me, lacking depth and wholly unrewarding...this is true for life in general come to think of it.

 

OP is correct on all of his points and then I skimmed through a bunch of broken minded troll thoughtless replies then wrote this.....as an alt of the OP

Originally posted by Scalpless

RNG is why people play games like this. If you don't like it, find another genre.

/thread

RNG is what makes the ARPG genre what it is.

Originally posted by tiefighter25

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Originally posted by tiefighter25
If you change the context, what you're supporting is essentially fascism. Not that that is all bad. Better uniforms.

Fascism in government = bad

Fascism on a private company's forum = who cares

 

I've been modded for it before, but I'll say it again. Karteli's crusade against TOR has hit the bottom of the barrel. Let it go, dude. This obsession is not healthy.

Although what you say has merit, it is intresting to note certain trends in society wherever they might crop up.

Perhaps this is why I find SWTOR fascinating, perhaps overly so. It is represenative of many trends in both MMOs, the gaming industry in general, and the corporte world as a whole.

The political analogy was just for expediency. I'm not so much obsessed as a tad unhealthly attentive.

That said, I won't lose sleep or wind up in the Bell Tower if ToR either becomes a hit or shuts down.

it's more akin to following a sports franchise; a lot of sound and fury but just a fun pasttime at the end of the day and this is a great place to discuss these topics with other interested people, pro and con.

A little civility rarely hurts anything though.

Apologies, the second part was aimed sqarely at the OP, not you. I couldn't be bothered to make it a separate post.