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Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by echolynfan

Except that this is a different game? I never played 1.0 - I just know a good MMO when I play it. Have fun with whatever game you deem worthy of your time :)

You didn't have to play 1.0, your post is exactly how fans used to post during 1.0. So it gave me a deja vu feeling and we know how things went after couple of months.When people start wishing for people to leave and how it will make community lot better it just raises all kind of red flags. Seen it happening so many times.

I didn't say I "wish" players would leave - I said that we don't need players like that. There are other games out there for the hardcore gamer elitists - the rest of us are thrilled with what SE has done and are looking forward to the upcoming content.

It's going to take me at least another month to finish leveling my crafting profs alone...maybe. I take my time and am enjoying the ride.

Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by BadSpock

The game is a lot of fun, and really well made - sure there are obviously problems, but for me - I have become perfectly 100% comfortable with the idea of not-subbing after my free month is up and waiting until I can try the game on PS4 early next year.

It just... I was so hooked and had that constant drive to log in and play... but then it was gone. Just "poof" vanish.



I have long way left to get to that point XD.


Got lv27 lancer(main), lv27 archer, lv27 puglist. Got five crafting professions at lv30, three at lv25-27, got botanist at lv26, miner at lv26. 


I think I would honestly dislike backtracking, that's why I level all "together" so to speak. Hardest to level are definitely the botanist and miner; so those are the ones "slowing" me down XD. 


I don't think I would like rushing a crafting class to 50, while the rest are far behind. I am done for today, but my goal tomorrow is to get the three remaining crafting classes to lv30; need to collect bomb ash trough lv26 miner to get those mats and simultaneously get some exp on my miner. Of course I calculate so that I collect just enough bomb ash to get my armorer and blacksmith to lv30 through crafting steel ingots (steel ingot = 2 x iron ore + 1 x bomb ash); after that I need to use leves to level my gathering classes:/. I do not like selling gathering materials on the AH. 


I think my playstyle is very enjoyable. This way, I am never feeling that I "outlevel" stuff. I practically always play in full HQ gear. I refuse to use any gear that isn't crafted by me.


I notice that I run out of quest on my main rather easily; so I intend to let my Lancer gain exp from all quests while my archer and puglist are mainly leveled through dungeons and leves. Which reminds me that I need to get my lancer to 28 through questing so that my archer and puglist can get the 50% exp bonus from mobs and fates.


If I skipped the gathering classes, I would be so much higher level on remaining classes XD. 

That's how I am also.

Originally posted by Riposte.This

It's funny because there is this "rush to max level guys!", and clearly people do that and clearly they will complain about it. But if the game was a time sink and the grind was hard then people would make a post about the grind. In the end, there really is a smaller group of hardcore players that grind out the content and complain. But if they made it so that those hardcore players took months to get to 50, the average player would take damn near a year to get to max level. And considering their main player base will be the casual players, they are focusing on pleasing them.

My main issue with the game, and I thought I could look past it, is the lack of competition and intensity when questing. I really do miss some open world pvp competition.

Agreed. I play very often - everyday for at least 6-8 hours and my character is only combat level 27 and I have each of the crafting and gathering profs up to 20-24 with the exception of Alchemy, Fishing and Culinarian. If you got to 50 with one tradeskill done - you HAVE NOT done all the content the game has to offer...period.


Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Cymdai

Issue #1: Crafting is utterly useless

As I got my LTW to 50, I had a sense of relief. "Alright, I'm done with THAT part of the game..." I thought to myself. I figured with my newfound craft, I'd be able to start making money almost immediately in the game. There is just one small problem; there is no demand for hardly anything. Gear, which should be utilized to a degree by all classes, isn't necessary. Because of the incredible ease of the game, it hasn't been uncommon to see people wearing severely outdated gear throughout the game. I've seen level 40's rocking level 18 armor, and to no real penalty. Since there's no reason for combat classes to buy gear, there's no reason to craft combat gear. Furthermore, combat classes can get gear cheaper/free, and easier simply by doing quests and dungeons. Furthermore, due to Issue#2, people are leveling so fast and efficiently that there's no reason to EVER buy gear! In fact, the irony of crafting +gathering and +crafting gear is that the only people who buy it is fellow crafters and gatherers. Essentially, you're creating gear for crafting because it's mandatory, but crafting has no purpose other than to build more crafting gear...and, of course, materia melding. I basically spent all my gil buying crystals and ingredients to level a craft which is now essentially worthless. Also, since no one needs to buy anything... there is no economy. Gil is essentially used to skilling up a craft, or repairing your end game gear. That's it. And once you lose it, it's 10x harder to make it back, because there is ample supply, and meager demand. This is probably related to the fact that...

At level 26 Armorer I have doubled my gil roughly every 4 days of playing (20k > 40k > 80k > 160k.....) by a couple of hours per day of actually trying to make gil. This is at level 26, not even level 50.

Issue #1: Players create imaginary issues to make it seem like the problem is not on their end.

Interesting. Your reply had anything to with what he was trying to say. He gave some solid points regarding crafting being nothing more than a time and gil sink and all you did was show how much gil you are making everyday.

Issue #1 ; People on these forum do selective reading.


Originally posted by echolynfan

I'm no FF ARR fanboy - this is the 1st time I've played a FF title but it's the best MMO I've played in years. All of the "content locusts" will run off leaving a decent community of great players and quite frankly...we don't need or want that kind of player.


Posts like these give me such a  deja vu feeling from 1.0. Sigh..some people just never learn even though history keeps repeating itself over and over again. 

Except that this is a different game? I never played 1.0 - I just know a good MMO when I play it. Have fun with whatever game you deem worthy of your time :)

Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by cybersurfr
Originally posted by Voqardeep?

You're one to talk when all you care about is combat and FATE leveling lol. That's about the most shallow and average part of the game so at least I agree with you there. If that's all you care about and how easy it is then you will never be satisfied in any of the upcoming games. You will just endlessly and hopelessly complain. If that was all that matters to you in an MMO then I agree - you shouldn't have bought the game. Stop thinking you're special and immune to the "honeymoon phase" - some people unlike you look beyond the combat and loot. You're just the average gamer seeking a pinata that doesn't exist.


What you're looking for isn't an MMO. Unless you call a gear tread mill an MMO, then maybe you're right. The problem with that attitude is that kind of game comes to a complete stop once you're done with all the challenges. You completely dismiss how the game's emphasis in crafting makes it a cut above the rest of the more recent MMOs. You disregard how that same emphasis thrives on player activity trading that aids in building the community.

 Not to mention personal housing and Free Company Housing that comes With Patch 2.1 , which will give the community even more Tools to build upon.

Housing will be a big boom to the game and something most "content locusts" don't take part in - mostly because there's nothing to speed level and it doesn't involve killing something.

Originally posted by cybersurfr

With all due respect, this prediction is a bit too early and only applies to content locusts such as yourself. I understand where you are coming from where you are asking for more content NOW. However, you have to consider that not everyone plays the way you do. Some like myself are patiently awaiting the patches to come - Arenas, Golden Saucer, 3-way PVP, housing.


Those changes are bound to come and we accept that it will take time. I respect your opinion and your incessant reminder that "you're a big fan who loves the game with rainbows and butterflies", but that doesn't invalidate that which you are saying is something coming out of lack of patience.

LOL..."content locusts" - I like that :)

I have no sympathy for all of these Fates grinders who skip the story and content to get to 50 and then whine. And the crafting DOES matter - Materia makes the crafted gear the best in game but people are too lazy to figure that out as well.

I'm no FF ARR fanboy - this is the 1st time I've played a FF title but it's the best MMO I've played in years. All of the "content locusts" will run off leaving a decent community of great players and quite frankly...we don't need or want that kind of player.

Originally posted by MagKiln
Great Read OP, So glad I am sitting on the bench on this one and waiting to see how it looks a few months down the road before I commit, although it is not looking good. 

The game has just started and will just get better - this is NOT a game that will fail in the long term. I've played enough MMO's to know when I'm playing a gem - and this one is.

Housing coming up and much more stuff planned will keep players subbed and the game community thriving. All the rush to end cap one dimensional players will go to the next thing - it's always been that way.

Originally posted by donpopuki
When you can play a game like it's your job then yeah you might go through the content much faster than the rest of us. Theres always that small elite group in every game that essentially beats the game in 1 month. You can't design your game around these folks because no matter how hard you think you've made the game someone will always beat it in astosinling speed. 

This ^


They could just add more loot chests around the world for people to find. I'm hoping they're working on something else besides dailies also - already have that with Leves.
Originally posted by Kyleran
Despite some interesting twists, at the end of the day it's pretty much a standard theme park MMO that follows the designs of the past 8 years or so.

Which is why I won't be playing it, regardless how well it might be made, I'm personally burned out on this model. (reading through the gear score thread really drove it home for me)

So ask yourself what you are looking for, if it's a largely different gaming experience this will not be the title you want.

But if you want a newer version of WOW based around the FF IP this is probably a great choice.

This is a very inaccurate statement. Wow's crafting is boring and FF ARR's  graphics are FAR superior while still performing as well as Wow. The game will soon have housing which Wow has never implemented. 

Also - the community this far has been a HUGE improvement over Wow's infantile player base. While some of the components of the game (dungeons, raids quests etc) are similar to Wow - the overall game is not. 

Originally posted by gkb3469
im gonna guess they sprung for "we live in japan and we'll do it when we're at work."

LOL yep - we Americans tend to think the world revolves around our schedule.

The only REAL problem for anyone wanting to play right now is actually "buying" the game - it's off the market until SE thinks the servers can handle it. I have NO problems with the server performance problems...just smooth!

If you want a fast paced game this is not for you. If you want an older style MMO which actually has something else to do than kill kill kill - this is for you.

Crafting is a BIG part of this game as will be housing when it's released next patch. Not everyone wants to just do dungeons and raids. IMO that's why so many MMO's fail - not enough variety of non-combat activities.

Originally posted by ZizouX

I think you're going to be in the minority as it pertains to FF fanboy.  I am a fanboy.


I have already registered the game for 6 month subscription. 


I love the crafting.

I love the gathering.

I love the music.

I love the dungeon design and unlike other games, I don't mind doing them repeatedly.

I am waiting for Housing where I can make furniture or get furniture by beating content.

I am waiting for the PvP.

Golden Saucher sounds a lot of fun, ESPECIALLY if they can give us a deep and satisfying card game.

I can't wait for more specializations to be added to the classes I already have at 50.

Yep...this ^


Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by NobleNerd

Your point is true and i wish Yoshida decided to do something about it, but what will happen is there will be a mass of players rushing to end game and then crying about it in a month or 2 because there is "no content". This may come back to bite them in the arse!


Actually ..  there is NO content. Have run out of quests at lv. 18 with my highest alt. None avaiable anywhere. Oh, yes, I could go to other cities doing low level quests. :-) But anyway it is not my concern anymore, stopped to play faster then any other game. Even TR have been playing for at least 2 weeks. Will follow still from time to time forums ... but FF ARR is for me thing of past. Totally unfun to play. Sure, music and environment made me very happy at start, I again felt that great FF feeling ... but I'm not playing game where this is all about.

LOL...really? I'm 22 right now and there are so many quests to do I don't know where to start. The main quest line is still going strong.....perhaps you should ask for some help :)

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by DMKano

Agree with OP 100%.

This is my biggest concern, my entire guild is 50 already, I've been sitting at 50 for 6 days now, and have done ifirit hardmode (cake), garuda hardmode (tricky last stage, need to switch physical DMG to magic and only have 45s to burn).

Garuda hard for a PUG will seem impossible, but for a guild its only tricky until you learn the strategy (hiding behind pillars, killing spawns fast then 45s magic and physical burn)

The game is tiny, its very fun but SE needs to do something if they want to retain players for months.



It's not tiny - you all RUSHED to the end. There is NO WAY you experienced all the game has to offer. Do any of you CRAFT at all? Hurry hurry hurry...level level level and then complain there's nothing to do - geesh!

Crafting is optional and not compulsory. For someone who claims to be playing MMOS for years you haven't learned a simple fact that not all players are the same. Some like  crafting, others prefer gathering while others just enjoy the combat. Only because they gave no interest in leveling crafting class doesn't mean they are not playing it right.

So for players who have no interest in other actvities and want to enjoy combat and leveling they are left twidling their thumbs at lvl 50. Don't be surprised if population is in sharp decline after free month is over.

I doubt that seriously - not everyone rushes to 50 and stands around with the thumbs up there arses. I've been playing video games since Pong came out so I have some mileage and this game has A LOT going for it and will be around for some time to come. Combat only players will cycle through and go to something else leaving behind a good community of well-rounded players.

Personal estates and instanced neighboorhoods are coming next update which will further ensure this games long term success. This is the best MMO I've played since the early days of MMO's - period.

Originally posted by DMKano

Agree with OP 100%.

This is my biggest concern, my entire guild is 50 already, I've been sitting at 50 for 6 days now, and have done ifirit hardmode (cake), garuda hardmode (tricky last stage, need to switch physical DMG to magic and only have 45s to burn).

Garuda hard for a PUG will seem impossible, but for a guild its only tricky until you learn the strategy (hiding behind pillars, killing spawns fast then 45s magic and physical burn)

The game is tiny, its very fun but SE needs to do something if they want to retain players for months.



It's not tiny - you all RUSHED to the end. There is NO WAY you experienced all the game has to offer. Do any of you CRAFT at all? Hurry hurry hurry...level level level and then complain there's nothing to do - geesh!

I'm sure they'll do something about the gold spamming soon (and it IS awful) and while I originally joined a U.S. server (Ultros) SE was nice enough to transfer me to a Japanese server. So now...along with the gold spammers I get to look at cool Japanese writing I can'y understand.

I keep getting the urge to say konnichiwa to everyone :)

Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Originally posted by stayontarget

I've noticed a lot of people saying "The global cooldown actually makes you "think" before just randomly hitting buttons".




What exactly are you thinking about?  is it so complicated that you need time to think about your next move.  And another question,  some say that the combat speeds up later on in the game.  So does that mean you need less time to think about it the higher you level up?


So many conflicting replies in this thread.

My thoughts exactly, no need to repeat what has already been well said.

Probably because some of us not yet got to 50 :)

Originally posted by Snowdon_Cloudripper
I love FFXIV:ARR i really really do . I have Beta tested this game from Phase 2-4 and i am playing in game on Diabolos server now and i am loving it ....... BUT. The game is to easy . You can go from 1 to 50 in less then a weeks time for any DoW or DoM class/job . FATE parties are how you level . You do not even need to do side quests and doing these FATEs after you have picked your Grand Company will earn you GC seals much , MUCH faster so leveling your rank in GC can take as long a 2 weeks or less to be highest rank . This is my one and only gripe with the game . I was hoping that 1 to 50 would take around 3 to 6 weeks if you were hardcore and 6 to 10 weeks if you were casual . Also i have to say Nothing has challenged me yet . Maybe its just me but the game is simple . Every story quest is easy let the NPCs get agro help the NPC win the fight quest done . I have fought Ifrit and Titan so far and both were cake . All the dungeons i have been in so far have been cake . Gruda i hear is a bit challenging i hope so . I am at Level 40 WAR and im stopping my Leveling so my FC/LS friends can also get to around 40 . So all i am doing now is crafting and mining and fishing . And helping with dungeons . Again im having fun but the challenge and the speed of leveling is a blemish to me . Anyone else feel the same?

It's like this in every MMO that comes out - players race to level cap by skipping all the content and in this case grinding "Fates" to level quickly. If SE made it so it would take hard core levelers more than a week to hit end cap they'd be complaining it was a grind.

How about actually PLAYING the game...enjoying the all the quests...hell maybe even *gasp* craft! The really bright point of FF ARR is the crafting system. I feel sorry for those players who only do combat and skip the rest of the game.

Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by kaz350

F2P games normally have cash shops filled with "vanity" items that you "dont need"  or dont affect gameplay so they say.

I just want to say...I have tons of minions (pets) in FF14....there is no way in hell if FF14 was a F2P game would I have ever paid a dime for any of them.

But since they are included in my sub, I love them, I collect them....they acutally put a smile on my face while I'm adventuring....

Who says these items dont affect gameplay??

Long live Pay to Play.

You like to rent your minions monthly. There is  no way in hell I would pay a box fee and then a monthly rental to collect minions I get to pay rent on monthly.  I don't like to rent my games or the minions therein.

Long live you renting your games and long live me not renting the games I play.

I'm with the OP on this one. I would much rather pay rent for an apartment on Park Ave than live for free at the homeless shelter.


Everyone's standards are different though. /shrug

This ^

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