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Originally posted by AIMonster

Play EQ2 (with free new Heroic characters come October 1st you can jump right into endgame and skip most of the boring solo content), Rift, WoW, even AoC, TSW, or SWTOR all games that I personally feel have better and certainly more content than FFXIV.  Definitely not something you'll likely burn through in a month (with maybe the exception of TSW if you play through it quickly).  Wait for Wildstar to come out and hope that succeeds in holding your interest.  If you aren't interested in playing those games there are always plenty of single or smaller multiplayer games to play.

I wouldn't count on new patches in FFXIV to provide a lot of content.  Probably a new dungeon or so that will still require you to farm other dungeons over and over till you can even attempt it (or require you to farm it to attempt another dungeon).  SE's rate of new content in patches is no where near the level of say Arenanet's with Guild Wars 2.  Considering the state of the game now I wouldn't expect housing to be stellar either, especially considering it can't possibly compete with games who devoted more than a "patch" to housing like Rift and EQ2.

I'm amazed at how much you know about FF ARR - especially the part how you know how much content SE releases in patches...considering that this NEW dev team hasn't released one yet. Housing hasn't been released yet and you "wouldn't expect it to be stellar either".

Just amazing.

Originally posted by SpottyGekko
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Grailer

Unfortunately the dungeons were tier T1 and T2  ,  so it was 5 dungeons I guess .

I wish they considered a similar idea with this game because I really enjoyed running some of the dungeons in FF14  , it would be nice to get a harder mode that had a few extra bosses and harder mechanics .

Did the Devs actually consider that people would get to 50 so fast and become totally bored brain dead of running 1 dungeon 50+ times ?

Did they even want people to sub after the month ?  Im assuming almost everyone has lvl 50 by now .  I guess the real casual players would be reaching 50 soon too .

2 hard modes are already coming in 2.1 (along with a new dungeon).

The game has no recycled dungeons but actual unique dungeons. You simply need to pick your poison because I'm sure there was no bitching about recycled dungeons at lvl50 in Rift ever.

We have also hard data showing that only 15% of the playerbase has hit lvl50 since about a week. Most people have reached somewhere around mid 20's to low 30's.

If only 15-20% of the playerbase has hit L50 so far, then things are not as bad as one would believe if you only ever read these forums.

 

I'd almost be inclined to mutter about 'the usual suspects', as there always seems to be this crowd who are not here to play the actual MMORPG's, they're just here to 'beat the game' in the shortest possible time after launch, then move on. If that means they can do it in a sub-based game before the sub kicks in, they get bonus points or something...

I know you were kind of joking with this comment but I believe it to be true...

Looks awesome! Hope there will be lots of stuff to load up your house with :)

The exterior customization is a welcome surprise and the interiors look very similar to EQ2's - here's hoping the decorating is as easy.

Back to the grind....needs to make mucho gil!

 

[mod edit]

Based on the number of hours I've played and I have "most" of the crafting classes at 30+....you already have a job and it's called "Crafting in FF ARR" lol

Originally posted by amber-r
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by amber-r
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by amber-r

Also do people really believe they will put out a DX11 patch?  I can't see that happening.

Do I have a reason not to believe? So far everything they've promised has happened. They are not a small devhouse that goes under if investors get stingy.

 

http://archive.is/JXbe

Tanaka-san:Up until now the problem has been that the graphics parts of it have been published in DirectX 8 but now that we’ve been able to upgrade it to DirectX 9, which is what we are doing right now, this will become available for all of the cards. We hope to have it in by the release of Wings of the Goddess. We think it will be ready.

This was promised in 2007 for ffxi, guess when they added it?  Never.  They promised a DX upgrade and never added it, sound familiar?

I actually played ffxi and waited for this, I remember the anger when they failed to deliver it.

Here is a link to the latest expansion pack that came out in 2013 for ffxi on the official store, scroll down to specs if you want to see that they never did what they said they would with DX upgrade.

FINAL FANTASY XI: SEEKERS OF ADOULIN

http://store.na.square-enix.com/store/sqenixus/en_US/pd/ThemeID.29853700/productID.264837700#.UkdvYhDJmUk

OS: Windows Vista, 7, 8
Processor: Pentium®III 800Mhz or faster processor
Memory: 128 MB
Graphics: GeForce™ series with 32 MB or RADEON™ 9000 series
DirectX®: DirectX® 8.1 or higher
Hard Drive: 13 GB of free space or more
Sound: DirectX® 8.1 or higher
Internet Connection: 56k or faster

Uhh, talking about FFXIV:A Realm Reborn here but oookaaay...

 

Company promises DX upgrade and more features on a FF MMO and never adds it, they simply state it was too expensive and never mentions it again.

Same company promises a DX upgrade on a new FF MMO and you don't see how what they did in the past is relevent?

Whole new Dev team - there's a reason the other team was FIRED. DX11 would be nice but I think that's a bit nitpicking don't ya think?

Originally posted by tommygunzII
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
I'm writing this as I wait in a queue to log into FF14.

 

Queue was gone around 1 week ago, so population certainly dropped.

Just that there were some new players came in recently after digital sale restart, so log in queue was back again.

We should wait until Nov, that's about time when everyone's free month expires and done with story.

 

I still get queued logging into my server at primetime.

I'm in a queue right now while reading this....


Originally posted by Byrhofen

Longevity a 10?




Take one combat based job to 50, then see how many quest's you have left to level a second combat based job, then, once you have finished grinding fates over and over again, see how much you really feel like levelling a third combat job, never mind all of them.




Even if you pay the sub fee that allows 8 character slots, knowing what grind lays ahead will put many people off making alts.



I figured it wouldn't take many posts until someone had a "cow" over the Longevity score hehe. Every one of these people do NOT mention crafting...at all...like it doesn't exist. There are a LOT of crafters that will have tons to do in preparation for the next patch. The overall score is accurate.


Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by f0dell54

Originally posted by Foomerang Sorry to hear that. My experience so far has been different.
Bullshit.

 

Maybe you talked to a few more people but the games mechanics are still same. You can't deny it with a simple one liner. You should have just said it's not the games fault it's yours. Which again is bullshit.

 



I roleplay and craft.

 

Foom and I are on the same page with this game and what I've been finding out from asking people who don't like the game is that they don't CRAFT or participate in anything other than combat. I have no problem with that but the game is heavy on the crafting side and is ripe for role playing.

I DO have a problem with people mis-representing the game or making uninformed comments about the game based on what they HEARD.

Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by TribeofOne

The game is a universal hit with over 300,000 concurrent connections and has overcome all the petty issues experienced by some at launch. The feeling in game is so positive and the promise of continued content and events is refreshing in this age of disposable mmos. Sales have resumed and I encourage anyone who hasnt tried it yet to do so. 100% guarantee youll love it or you'll not.

 

Ui improvements are incoming

more larger open zones suitable for "camps" are coming

unique seasonal events done like only Final Fantasy can are coming.

several additional Jobs already in the works!

 

[mod edit: Altered title]

 

The only thing that would make me return would be FF14 3.0 when they would hopefully do the things right this time. As FORMER Square enix fan I can say have never ever been so disappointed by any mmo release as with ARR.

Really? And which games(s) are you playing right now?

Originally posted by Foomerang

OP you should try FFXIV. Its where a few of us vet SWG crafters have gone.

<------Raises hand

Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Yizle
Originally posted by Netspook
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by Netspook

I also think this game is going to fail. I'm not going to crit you with a wall of text explaining why, because it can be summed up with very few words:

Though this game looks great, it's just incredibly boring.

Simple as that.

Are you old enough to remember playing Pong? Now THAT was boring - FF ARR is NOT boring...at all...not even a little bit.

 

Pong was innovative for it's time. FFXIV is not.

QFT

Cuz all the innovative games were runaway blockbusters right?

I still can't believe people took my Pong comment seriously...it was a joke - but FF ARR is NOT = best MMO I've played in 5 years. The crafting system is definitely superior to everything that has come out in years. 

Also - I'm still waiting for someone to tell me of an MMO that is out right now that is better in this regard. 

Originally posted by Netspook
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by Netspook

I also think this game is going to fail. I'm not going to crit you with a wall of text explaining why, because it can be summed up with very few words:

Though this game looks great, it's just incredibly boring.

Simple as that.

Are you old enough to remember playing Pong? Now THAT was boring - FF ARR is NOT boring...at all...not even a little bit.

 

Pong was innovative for it's time. FFXIV is not.

Sigh...no sense of hurmor...

Originally posted by Netspook

I also think this game is going to fail. I'm not going to crit you with a wall of text explaining why, because it can be summed up with very few words:

Though this game looks great, it's just incredibly boring.

Simple as that.

Are you old enough to remember playing Pong? Now THAT was boring - FF ARR is NOT boring...at all...not even a little bit.

Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Will be here for the long haul. Classes that matter, a hard core trinity system that gets people to playing together, dungeons that are well designed and fun, lots of content coming out soon and already enough to show they put though into end game and a class system thats a lot of fun. In my 14 years of MMOing there has only been a couple of MMOs got me this excited and I play them each for many years, EQ1, DAoC and WoW. This game is quality.

This ^

Originally posted by Gallus85
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Gallus85
Originally posted by h0tNstilettos

I'm actually quite shocked at the people thinking this game is a 7. This game deserved nothing under a 9. It deserves a 9 minimum. It's not perfect, but very very good, especially considering the game was remade from the ground up in just two years

 

I've played MMORPGs for 10 years, including all the big name ones like EQ1, WoW, Rift, Terra, GW2, Maplestory, and ARR is by far the best I've played. It is only launch, and many features they wanted at launch will be coming in patch 2.1 in November.

I disagree.  ARR is a "good" game, but 7 is being generous.  The graphics are less than stellar.  The combat isn't that great.  The game doesn't innovate in any areas (it's by far the most cookie-cutter traditional MMO I've ever seen).  I won't bring up it's abysmal launch.

Imo, fans of Final Fantasy, or fans of traditional themepark MMOs should give ARR a try.  It's got a decent little story and has semi-decent amount of content.  However, the game lacks a lot of depth and innovation that many current and future MMOs have.  It's just your typical themepark MMO with tab target combat, done decently well.

A rating of 5-7 is deserved.  Anything more than that is nothing more than a fan boy rating that doesn't consider the whole package or contrast it to other innovative MMOs.

The crafting system and market in FF blows away the grand majority of the competitors. The depth is just fine. 

 

Furthermore, on a strictly merit-based rating system, a "good game" can per definition never be 5. It is rather 7 or 8. 9 being great; 10 being excellent (ign uses a similar system). In a system, where the ratings are based on comparison and distributed according to a normal contradiction, there are not enough mmorpgs  that beat FFXIV to put it anywhere below 7.

The crafting system in FF isn't anything special.  It's better than some, but not the best by far.

The breadcrumb trail of quests and forced story quest are so unimaginative and non-innovative that it has* to have points taken off for it.

The launch was by far the worst out of the dozens of AAA MMORPGS, and certainly not a representation of what I would expect from a pay to play game.  But I don't deduct any points for that, and the issues have been mostly cleared up already.

Instanced dungeons are simplistic and often boring.

The combat system is slow, clunky and extremely cookie cutter.

Zero innovation in story telling.  Most of the cutscenes don't even have voice overs.  You can't control anything in the story.  Your story is the same as everyone else. etc etc.

The FATE public quest system is horrible.  GW2 did it WAY better, and EQ2 is set to do open world events even greater than GW2.

I could go on and on.

FFXIV is a "good" game.  And as such, 5-7 is "good" and a rating it deserves.  8 9 and 10 are reserved for great and amazing/innovating games, and 1-4 are ratings reserved for terrible - bad games.

FFXIV is a solid 5-7 depending on your own personal preferences.  If you really like themepark, traditional MMOs, and really like the asian/FF theme, a 7 is a legit score.  If you really don't care for the game, you have to admit the game is at least a 5 or 6, because what it does do (even though it's nothing great, new or revolutionary) it does well enough.

But 8 9 or 10?

On what planet? lol.

There's only one crafting system that I know of that is better than FF ARR and it's SWG. Please tell me which game that's out NOW that you think is better - I should be playing THAT game.

Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Gallus85
Originally posted by h0tNstilettos

I'm actually quite shocked at the people thinking this game is a 7. This game deserved nothing under a 9. It deserves a 9 minimum. It's not perfect, but very very good, especially considering the game was remade from the ground up in just two years

 

I've played MMORPGs for 10 years, including all the big name ones like EQ1, WoW, Rift, Terra, GW2, Maplestory, and ARR is by far the best I've played. It is only launch, and many features they wanted at launch will be coming in patch 2.1 in November.

I disagree.  ARR is a "good" game, but 7 is being generous.  The graphics are less than stellar.  The combat isn't that great.  The game doesn't innovate in any areas (it's by far the most cookie-cutter traditional MMO I've ever seen).  I won't bring up it's abysmal launch.

Imo, fans of Final Fantasy, or fans of traditional themepark MMOs should give ARR a try.  It's got a decent little story and has semi-decent amount of content.  However, the game lacks a lot of depth and innovation that many current and future MMOs have.  It's just your typical themepark MMO with tab target combat, done decently well.

A rating of 5-7 is deserved.  Anything more than that is nothing more than a fan boy rating that doesn't consider the whole package or contrast it to other innovative MMOs.

The crafting system and market in FF blows away the grand majority of the competitors. The depth is just fine. 

 

Furthermore, on a strictly merit-based rating system, a "good game" can per definition never be 5. It is rather 7 or 8. 9 being great; 10 being excellent (ign uses a similar system). In a system, where the ratings are based on comparison and distributed according to a normal contradiction, there are not enough mmorpgs  that beat FFXIV to put it anywhere below 7.

Agreed. I'm not a fanboy of the FF franchise but I do know an excellent MMO when I play one and FF ARR deserves a soild 9 in comparison to everything else that's on the market. I want to know which games these people have been playing if they think FF ARR is only a 6-7. 

Originally posted by Foomerang

I thought you said you were going to review crafting. Its one of the best things about the game and should be included in your final score.

+1

Crafting is not only the best thing in the game - it's also a BIG part of the game and I'm happy about it :)

Originally posted by slicknslim88

You can b!tch all you want about it, but you still keep logging in.

Honestly, all these issues can just pile on, because the game is so damn good, that SE has me hooked no matter what happens.  All my friends feel the same.

+1

Originally posted by Chocobro

One of the better user reviews i've read, you kept the comparisons to other games to a minimal degree and gave a score based on its merits, not one paragraph summarization on how it's a clone of X game or does not "innovate" enough that run rampart on this site.

 

 

 

Agreed - a very accurate review of the state of game right now. I'm having more fun than I've had in years and it'll take quite a while for me to even get close to maxing combat and crafting.

Originally posted by urkhura
Been waiting for digital downloads of this to come out for 3 weeks... Too late my money already went to GTA5.

Awww...wow..we're gonna miss you...

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