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5.  Yes you can have the same first name as long as it has another name (ie...last name) and the entire name you use hasn't already been taken.

 

6.  Yes you can have the same last name as long as both (or all) names are different from anyone else.

Here's the thing OP: you can either give into the hype that peeps are selling that it's the second coming, say the hype is overblown and the game is gonna crash and burn or...check out the numerous videos, articles, blogs and just your own basic intuition...to make a decision about whether you're gonna like the game or not. Personally, I'd go with the later. Then again, I loved GW1 and therefore I'm a little biased in saying this, but I'm going to love GW2. However, I'm not about to cram my way of thinking down peeps throat. I have opinions...sure...and I likewise listen to the OP of others. Still, I sat down...did my homework (vids, articles, blogs, etc...) and made up my mind. My Mind.

 

The community is what we make it. There's gonna be QQers, fanbois, followers and haters but that's something we all have to wade through. Pick a server...see how that goes. Change servers...see how that goes. Don't let others either tell you what's what or what's not...find out yourself. Take in all the info you can...and make up YOUR mind. Then, and perhaps most importantly, own your decision because once it's made...what you choose is yours...good or bad...and there's no one else to blame.

Speaking only for myself here as I've never even considered going into the TSW forums to bash it. In fact, if I went there, it would basically be just to see what the TSW community had to say about their game. I might even ask a few questions.

Also, this whole 'we stop when you stop' BS is pretty pathetic. Put your big girl panties on and either ignore the posts or have a conversation and if a conversation can't be had...then move on (big girl panties and all) as it's really not worth it.
I'm gonna say no to this idea for a couple of reasons.

1st is....what's the rush? Really...the game, baddies, hearts, exploration, etc....will still all be there. Nobody has to worry about being the 'first' in anything.

2nd is...where do we stop? As it stands now, if you pre-purchased you get 3 extra days. Also, I believe that if you pre-order you get one day extra (please correct me if I'm wrong). If we keep asking for stuff to happen earlier and earlier then there might come a day when a game is never really released and a 'working' build is thrust upon us in which the updates we've come to expect don't fix or balance things but instead....make the game before our eyes. And we think games are released early now as it is.

Naw this is fine for me. I got my 3 days. I've waited this long already...a little longer won't hurt.
Only @OP....I'm really sorry the game didn't grab ya. That's what happens at times. Hey, you tried it, right? Thanks for an honest OP and I hope you can find a game that you'd enjoy.
I thought the article wad pretty good and he's really very honest on those items he critiqued. Especially about human females. I've seen other posts elsewhere that also had some issue with them looking very young and too perfect. It's his OP and he can have it. He even concedes that GW1 was also this way so it's something he'll just have to deal with.

He talks about grouping up 'on the fly' so to speak and how it's great how easy and fun it is (without joining a formal party) and also how it could have some interaction issues (all together yet still doing their own thing). Again he concedes that his experience could be unique because everyone was focused on seeing the content and other different things that G2 has to offer. This is a really good point and I guess we'll just have to see how it is during and after launch. All in all, I thought it was a good well-rounded article. Can't wait for the beta myself.
So someone had a negative review. That's good. I really mean that. Look, I'm buying this game as I've been following it since it was announced and I know Anet will put together a quality game. I've no problem with negative stuff. I'll reserve my final judgment for when I can actually play the game myself. From what I've seen and read I won't be disappointed. I'm not going to claim perfection or that it's a 'killer' because I don't really care. If I like the game...I'm gonna play the hell out of it...just like I did with GW1 all the while kickin' with some cool peeps and having fun. You don't wanna come with? That's fine too.
5+ years here. Cash shop doesn't bother me in the least. ALL of it is optional. Time saver XP boosts? Fine with me as I'll get my XP the old fashioned way. Same with karma boosts. Rez Orbs? Naw...if I'm dying too much and breaking my armor...maybe I'm not quite ready for it. Besides...I could always take extra armor with me. Not a big deal. In the end, it's about perception. If you're the type of person that is bothered by what other peeps think of you then the cash shop will be something you'd like. Or not like. For the majority (even those that like cliffs...) we'll just be happy playing along and doing fun stuff. The cash shop is not for me and I really could care less if you, or anybody else, got to 80 faster than me. You can't get anything more than me as there is no gear in there...only time savers. Mystic keys? Think Z-keys only this time it's your money you're gambling with. You wanna bet with your cash? Go right ahead. I'll pick up that same or like stuff through gameplay. I'll admit though...I'm probably going to get more storage and some costumes. Sure, I plan on WvW but I know the cash shop will have very little influence in there AS A WHOLE. Over time, others will catch up (guilds, toons, etc...) and then we'll be back at level grounds. If you don't like this...then you might think the CS is the devil. Really what peeps are mad about is simply that others may get somewhere/something (not really) before they do. Us cliff jumpers will be happy just playing.
I'm more shocked that you think it's shocking to see it retail for standard new game price...US that is. I can't comment on other currancies as I'm not familiar with their intracacies.
Negative...this game is Vaporware ;P Just deal with it.

I grew up with games starting with my Atari 2600 all the way up to my PC and PS3.  So it makes sense that my kids are also growing up with them.  My wife and I are gamers and geeks in general yet we both are responsible and are teaching our kids to also be responsible.  Do we sometimes spend 5 or 6 hours gaming in a day?  Sure, but we also spend that and more at the park, eating dinner, talking and rolling around on the floor.  Oh yea...homework, Dr. Who, Stargate SG-1, Star Trek / Wars, acting silly and many other things are in there too.  Plus, we screen every game our kids play (we have 3 comps and they are all in the family room so everyone can see everything....besides, my kids are good kids anyway ;P).  Pretty much boils down to personal responsibility.  I've had so much fun playing games all my life that there is no way I would deprive my kids of the same. 

Stealth and Cali...you're both right.  All of those reasons are valid.  I myself, am not currently sub-ed in any game at the moment although I've tried Rift for a couple of months and play, at different times and moods, LOTR, Fallen Earth and GW.  I don't have any problem paying for a sub.  I'm like most of you here...if you can pay for a comp and internet access then it's not a far stretch to pay for a sub.  Still, this is what it comes down to for me...and me alone.  Value.  Sure, it's only 50 cents a day broken down but what if I don't play for a couple of days?  $1.50 (or so) wasted...in my mind of course.  For me, there is a pressure that is exerted (and this is my own doing) that compels me to either pay and play or not play at all. Ya know, real life tends to get in the way...I know, I know....how could I?!

 

I've found that I rather like F2P and B2P games simply for this reason. I've never purchased anything in a cash shop for any of those games. Full disclosure, my wife has purchased costumes for her toons in GW and they're actually pretty sweet. These setups allow me to leave a game for days, weeks or even months at a time and not feel like I've wasted any money. Again, sub prices aren't a deal breaker for me...I just choose not to have the added self imposed responsibility of trying to get each and every penny out of my game.

Hey...if you have the cash...play them both.  They both stand on their own.  IMO, either way you roll...it's a great choice.


Originally posted by end_break_f

To the people who say MMO's aren't a fashion show or are'nt about looks, then why do people even get cool looking weapons, armors, mounts?

What was the purpose of 15k prestiege armor sets in Guild Wars 1, when you could get uglier AND much cheaper sets that gave the same def and stats? Why did people farm for hours to find MAX damage rare weapons like the chaos axe, storm bow, fire dragon sword when they could just go to an NPC and get a generic looking weapon for cheap?

Costumes were added to GW1 AFTER the game died, 1 year after Eye of the North came out. It was supposedly a way to pay the bills.

I agree with the people who said they pay $60 for the game. If Anet really does go full out microtransactionz, they should stop pretending to be the white knights of the MMO world as cash shop is just an alternative to charging a monthly fee. Except that most of the time, you don't pay for the game/expansions when there's a cash shop.

I agree with you to a certain extent.  I haven't bought anything from the GW 1 shop (costumes, skill packs, etc...) but that's only because I don't want to look that way (costumes) or need the skills (already have most and can get the rest easy).  Now, my wife, on the other hand, does like the costumes and that's what she gets.  Is this a game-breaker?  No, for us it's not.


 

Still, if GW 2 does expand it's shop for more then just cosmetic items to include XP potions and the like...then I'll be highly disappointed. And I won't be alone. You see, most people don't mind cash shops if what they sell is cosmetic. And by the way, since when is it wrong for a company to make money off of a game they created and are providing? So what if it's a supplement to game sales? As long as people are happy with the content and items that are provided then we can't fault them for wanting something in return. Again, I reiterate, non-cosmetic items intended to make game play easier (I'm looking at you consumables) that are available for RMT will not make fans of the GW franchise happy.

I don't think there'll be a beta announcment at Gamescon.  Though...maybe the last profession reveal?  I'm going with a release date of around April of next year...give or take a couple months (give a couple more months more likely).  So maybe a beta starting very late this year or very early next year.  But hey...it's done when it's done, lol.

Originally posted by imissswg
Originally posted by C-B-M

Could someone tell me what Vato wrote?  It makes babies cry if I read it.  LOLZ.  Something about how the government can't fire people and the national parks have to stay open or something.  I don't actually know because as soon as I started to read it I was laughing too hard to continue.  :)

know what i really don't give a crap about vato anymore he keeps claiming i am powder and i'm not. i want him and the rest of the loony lefties gone. that's right vato leave we want you gone and your friends gone.

I've read this thread, for the most part anyway, and well...if we can't even come to a consensus then how do we expect our 'leaders' to do the same.  I'm fed up with the 3 sides in this.  Yes...3 sides.  Dems, Repubs and Tea Partiers.  All of them are voluntarilly causing this to happen.

On that note, what imissswg just said is EXACTLY what is already happening....from all sides and it must stop.  Really...it must.  Again, I reiterate...this is coming from all sides.  Do the American people want this default to happen?  I don't think we do.  Actually, I think most are just a frustrated at the arguing and standoffishness of everyone in DC.

IMOP I think that to solve this...whatever you wish to call it (bluff, crisis, fearmongering, disaster)...we really need a lot of different stuff to happen.  I'm sorry, but when people say that 'job creators' are paying too much in taxes now that's just a load of bull.  Also, those that say we can't cut certain things are full of it.

I'm a federal employee and I'm really hoping that this is cleared up because I'm an 'essential' which means that I have to work and maybe not get paid.  Do you think the bank will say...'oh, you've missed a mortgage payment (or 2 or.....), we know you've not had any paychecks coming in....we'll just sit a bit and see what happens.  Don't worry'.  Yeah, that'll happen.  I'm also wondering about my TSP (government-like 401K) getting hit hard and I know many are in the same boat.  Oh, and let me dispell any rumours that all gov workers get bank.  I make 40k a year and have been a fed for 9 years. 

I don't want a hand-out....we (most of us--Americans I mean) don't want a hand-out.  We just want to work, get paid, provide for our families and yes...even have a little extra for some niceties.  I want democracy to work here and it's going to take some balls on all sides to give up some precious ground to get shit done.

Originally posted by baff
Originally posted by Kawi1
 

 

As for bestiality...it's not even a logical argument. Sex with animals does not even come close to sex between humans much less marriage.

 Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Hey look, if you want to sex it up with man's best friend (or any other four-legged creature) then that's your choice.  I think however, that you much prefer trolls.

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Unfortunately, polygamists, incestuous couples and bestialists are still being left out in the cold.  Maybe someday true equality will come to all.

That argument? Really? From where do you get your moral information (because that's really what this is all about) from...the Bible? If that's the case then let's just have full disclosure about one man in particular: Abraham. Now here is a fine example of 2 of your arguments...clearly supported by the Bible. In fact...encouraged. Abraham...was the Dos Equis Man of the Ancient Times. Not only did he found nations...he had more than one wife (Hagar who bore him Ishmael) and married his sister, Sarah who bore him Isaac. So ya, gay marriage is the same as Abraham? Sure, if that's the way you want to argue it.

 

As for bestiality...it's not even a logical argument. Sex with animals does not even come close to sex between humans much less marriage. Then again...I hear of straight people having sex with animals every so often. Ever hear of a gay person doing the same? Ya, didn't think so. Still, you are entitled to your opinion and that I respect. Now it's your turn to prove that gay marriage/sex is the exact same things that you mentioned.

 

I, for one, am very happy that NY passed the law.  It affords rights to people...not just a certain section of people.  In my view, that is what civilization is about.  Notice, I didn't say 'modern'.  However, for those that are opposed to the law I hold no grudges against them and will not stoop to any level by name-calling them (bigot happens to be the term most widely used) which I find abhorrent and ultimately self-defeating. I'm comfortable to agree to disagree.

 

As far as the idea or practice or being of homosexuality and the marriage of said people being normalized...well, it always has been. Now, normal as in supported by civilization? Perhaps not although I can think of times when it was more accepted in some cultures than others. But about homosexuality being normal as in...it always happens...then yes, it's been normalized since us humans started interacting on a social level with each other. To say otherwise would be very short-sighted. In the end, the definition of marriage is not for the majority to decide. It's a very personal journey between two people who have decided to share their life and love together (and all the other sappy stuff that goes along with it). Who can say that's so wrong?

Originally posted by Hekket
Originally posted by Kawi1
Originally posted by Xirik

the defunding would mark an end of an era where countries had to be more careful or the US intervene in there affairs.

This defunding would show that America is not commited to the Defending the small against the big.

China probably would think they could take taiwan and the US would do nothing.

In a perfect world this might be the case.  However, we didn't go into Lybia because we were defending the weak.  We can try and tell ourselves that but IMO we are there for one single reason:  to kill Gadhafi.  If we were truly about defending the small against the big, then why aren't we in Syria...or Yemen.  Don't let those drone strikes in Yemen fool you.  Those are to take out Al-Qaeda or whatever supposed terrorist group is there.  I wasn't for going into Lybia and I'm still not and I consider myself a left-leaning Indy. 

As far as defunding it...perhaps that should happen...even though I dislike Boner's (yes...I did that on purpose) policies, I kinda agree with him.  Still, it's ironic that now that a Dem President is on the offensive in a war situation that the Right is all up in arms about it.  Oh and yes...I was against Iraq too.  Afghanistan and Pakistan...well, that's another story.  Don't get me wrong, Gadhafi needs to go but as we've seen in Iraq...sometimes it's not good to be the police of the world.

 

Huh? We are in Yemen...

I thought I saw a headline like two days ago proclaiming the pentagon or something is by passing permission from the yemen government to conduct drone strikes there.

Did you bother to read the entire post?  I said we were in Yemen only we're not fighting the government...it's a CIA counterterrorism plan.  Also...if we were fighting for the small against the big (someone else's words) why would we need Yemenese Gov permission...to go against the Gov.

Ihmotepp,  the we can't be everywhere arguement?  Really?  Look, for the most part, I agree with you quite a bit on what you say on these forums but that was just weak.  We can be everywhere and the proof is in all of the bases we have in many different countries.  If we really wanted to be there...we would.  It's just that Gadhafi pushed our buttons the most out of all these places...remember Lockerbie?  Ya...Gadhafi did that or was very instrumental in it.  That's the reason we're there...not to save civilians.  Because, I reiterate, if that were the case then we'd also be (and NATO would be too) in those other places where governments are killing their people.  I voted Obama and will vote for him again...proudly...but I don't like what's happening with Libya.  I'd rather the money and effort was spent here on US soil taking care of our own for a change.

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