Again:

I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE EVE !!!!

I asked "seriously why" is there no other game developer who recognized this market niche?

Making a game like EVE, with many different spaceships, with a huge world, with total loss of the ship BUT with better insurance, WITH BETTER PVE, WITH A STORY and better UI and tutorials...

Originally posted by Corehaven

Originally posted by BigHatLogan

What fun is building stuff if there is never any risk of it getting torn down?  And think of the litter!  People would build shit all over the place and then quit and no one would ever be able to get rid of it.

 

 I totally agree with the OP.  Thats why I quit.  I was no kind of "real" EvE player in the end I guess.  I made more than enough to buy plexes and play for free. 

 

Here's the real question.  Why build stuff if there is a risk of it getting torn down?  Because my ship cost about 3.5 billion all said and done.  That was a lot to me because never dabbled in the economy much.  Yea I sold basic materials all the time and bought, but nothing major.   If that ship got destroyed it would take most of my resources or all to replace it.  If that got destroyed Im out. 

 

I just quit before that happened.  Now loosing a clone I never worried about.  Thats easy to keep up with.  But loosing a ship?  I barely ever indulged in PVP for that reason.  Its just not worth it to me.   Its too extreme.  I dont mind a loss.  I do mind total devastation if it happens. 

 

You know this whole loosing your ship permanently is why many players quit.  Lets put a mechanic into the game where if a ship, carefully modded and took major investement to set up, gets defeated its gone forever.  Thats NOT a good mechanic.  You might like it. 

 

But EvE would have been far more successful and far more profitable without it.  Period.  Like I said, I dont mind a loss of some kind.  I do mind the total devastation when it occurs.  To where you just want to quit.   EvE is flawed in that way, and always will be.  Which is why it doesnt have mass amounts of players. 

 

Plus the crafting is incredibly complicated.  Missions at level 4 require you looking them up online to see how to go about it because if you dont figure out the spawn relations between the battle groups, you get slaughtered.  Thats just silly.  EvE has a lot of problems the stubborn developers just wont ever change.  Because its their vision.  I can actually respect that.  I just dont have to play it. 

 

Gave it 6 months.  Had a good time.  Burned out. 

 

Thanks man, you got it!

But in my opinion the total loss of a ship just makes sense in this game, so if a developer would make a EVE clone with said improvements keep the destruction! But it should be possible to make an insurance for EVERYTHING, not just the ship without its fitting!

Originally posted by travamars

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Rinna

A friend and I recently returned to Lotro... during this dryspell in MMO gaming.  We played Lotro a lot when it first released and for years afterward.  I bought the lifetime sub when the game released.  So we patched up the game and played for a couple or four hours this last weekend and we were both pretty disappointed.  He was forced to pay to quest in areas and maybe this is normal for a F2P game but... it just seemed so cheezy and cheap.  

A game we used to love so much now just diminished to nickel and dimes.  We figured out that he'd have to spend at least $16.00 this last weekend to accomplish what we logged into accomplish.  That's more money than we used to pay for a whole month of Lotro, without restrictions.  

I understand that the F2P business models saves the older games and prevents them from closing down or disappearing.  I understand a lot of players love the F2P model but I just can't get into it.  I always feel taken advantage of.  I would rather pay 20 or 25 bucks a month and have everything included then have to stop everytime I enter a new zone to throw more money at the game company in order to quest or train or whatever.  The game is truly free to play for me, I paid for a lifetime sub and the fact that it's gone F2P just sucks all the enjoyment out of it for me.  Maybe GW2 will change my mind about this business model, but I'm pretty sure it won't.  

GW2 is Buy to Play, or B2P not F2P there is a large difference.

 About the only differance i see in gw b2p and f2p is that in a f2p you can play free and buy what you want from cash shop. In gw b2p you buy the box and play for free until the next expansion comes out (one about every three months) that cost about $45 so actually your still paying an average of the sub model games. Plus gw has a cash shop on top of that.

This day will come....uhmmm let me think about it....never?! !!!! :D

Or hopefully with the release of GW2^^at least some parts.

I made the fucking mistake to resubscribe :mad:

Now i only login to update my skill-queue! The game isn't that good...and the last addons didn't bring anything cool new.

Best question ever!

+1

Originally posted by Boardwalker

Originally posted by Polypropylen

"sp refund" and "allocate to mining".... does that mean i can "reset" my current skills, but keep my SP and just put them from one skill away onto another? 0o

No. It means that if you previously had invested skill points into Learning skills, you can reallocate those Learning skill points, and those points only, to any other skills that you see fit.

AH i know what you mean! With Incursion every char got maxed learning skills.

Nope i played Incursion so that doesn't fit for me ;)

Originally posted by drbaltazar

top dogs is league of legend lot of pvp with a bit of pve!