"Visceral Star Wars Combat"

why is visceral the new buzzword in the gaming journalism world? look at skyrim and every single review talks about the visceral combat

2012 mmo prediction: the old republic will lose so many subs that it will be forced to become F2P

gonna wait till this goes F2P before trying it out. i'm going to guess a year or two before the switch

arenanet is a quality company. conceptually this game sounds fantastic, I just hope they can pull off the execution

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

I like how they completely neglect to mention she's a CASH SHOP ONLY CHARACTER. Gotta buy her before you can use her. *cancels re-installation* Moving on.

 

wow seriously? ugh

Originally posted by bloodbone

If you feel so strongly about it why don't you make a top 10 reasons NOT to play SWTOR.  You obviously don't like the game so you would be better qualified.  Just don't expect one from somebody who liked the game.  

I've been playing MMORPGs for the better part of 7 years & I've always had one complaint about them all.  No Immersion/connection to the story.  I couldn't keep playing them for very long cause I just can't get into the grinding/raiding/PVP as being the ultimate reward for playing well.  SWTOR changed that IMO,  there is immersion & I do want to find out what happens next in the story, something that up till now was there purview of single player games.

You may be right, it may not do anything different, but in this case it's all about presentation.  If it is no different then at least it does the same ole thing in a different & compelling way

 

 

Problem is that "Story" Element You speak of Ends, then what are you going to do, reroll?  Why bother playing an MMO if thats your stance, Skyrim and dozens of other games offer the same experence without the monthly fee's.  IMO the goal of an MMO should be for the players themselves to create the story and in that way you never run out of content.  Of course that would require allowing players to have a real impact on the gameworld which no AAA MMO's have done to this point, so im not just picking on SWTOR here.      

 

Pushing the story in an MMO is the totally wrong direction to go in imo, especially the way bioware handled it (hamfisting ME'S dialogue wheel into an MMO). don't get me wrong, I love a good story, especially if a game does it well (chris avellone) but the last thing i'm looking for in the MMO genre is a story.

I mean it's a nice bonus, but I'd much rather see newer MMO's push the social interaction aspects of the gameplay, and how you're able to change and affect the world environment

I like these types of ideas but sadly they're usually misused as mob dispensers for power leveling

Originally posted by Puremallace

So want to die laughing. So saw the live stream Pokket always does and she talked about how great the vocie overs were and how she felt so immersed. Watching her live stream she was space barring through every single one LULZ

 

lmao

Originally posted by precious328

A "western leveling curve"?

 

Comeon. Has it gotten so bad that our entire culture is labeled as a "give it all to me now or I'll QQ"?

This is embarrassing.

 

Yeah because doing mindless repetetive tasks over and over that require zero thought at all is TRULY compelling gameplay.

MMO addicts are embarrassing

Originally posted by tawess

Originally posted by Asamof

would SWG have survived if they opened up a retro server and made it F2P? maybe...

 

Unlikley, sure the sandbox elements were good (tailor/image desiner here) but combat was pretty much broken from day one and "class" balance was no were to be seen. And there was a lot of bugs and glicthes that were never fixed.

 

But i can agree to the fact that the social/explorer/crafter part was good. To bad the majority wanted to do combat... and that was broken. I can actually say that the combat part got a lot better after the NGE, more balanced and with more ground between "Munchkin-like OP build" and "Gimp like a sheap in leather build" saddly it came at the price of...every thing else. And it was wayyy wayyy to late.

 

So... If they made it F2P... what would they have put in the cash shop... Crafting patterns.. Songs... Harvesters... Holocrons... I have a hard time seeing what they would have made money off.

 

no clue what they would put in cash shop, probably a lot of cosmetic items like costumes and house decorations

you're totally right about the combat, it's a shame they couldn't fix it before the NGE. poor game never got the love it deserved

would SWG have survived if they opened up a retro server and made it F2P? maybe...

hmm nope not sick of any of it at all. maybe the author is just personally sick of the fantasy genre.

the comment on the lack of detail might have been better if explained, because the graphics in CoX are extremely detailed.

a ridiculous amount of character customization (including both skill animations/colors)

varied enemy NPC types all with a unique flavor

TONS of details to the environment (seriously just look around, there's so many little background elements just to add to the atmosphere)

not to mention the world design itself. so many of the NPC's are actually doing things in the world, whether it's breaking into buildings/vehichles, stealing purses from old ladies, goldbrickers patrolling the cities on flight routes, enemy NPC factions fighting it out in real time, etc etc etc.

sure some of the models and textures look a little outdated (usually the stuff that came out in 04), but it makes up for it in the amount of detail and variety in everything else.

Interesting that they would do that in this day and age. hopefully the idea is well implemented, it could be a little EVE like, which is always a good thing

it's really too bad other companies keep ressurecting this torchlight prototype, just to milk it as much as they can

oh well, torchlight 2 and D3 are going to be out soon enough

choose setting that has an incredibly diverse list of races, many of which are already iconic.

make all the races humanoids with different skin colors/VERY SLIGHTLY altered models

very VERY lazy bioware. what a waste of potential.  especially since way older MMOs like SWG had tons of different races

also money can't be an excuse, this is literally the most expensive game ever created. the budget was higher than the movie avatar

once the players see the real quality of the old republic they'll be back to WoW in no time. though i'm sure the numbers will still be dropping regardless, after cataclysm and later pandaria

Originally posted by Kalfer

Originally posted by Asamof

this joke is 6 years too late

 

come on blizz you can do better than this

 

 

Was it the best delivery? no. But this goes out to all the couch potatos, if you put it in perspective  it's pretty cool. You're acting like like blizzard are someone you would expect to take pop culture references to the next level? If you look at their games, they are full of references to others(many old ones).

 

It's fine you don't like WoW, but the hatred against this game on the site is so pathethic. It's so unbeliveable biased and narrow minded to think that WoW and Blizzard are somehow the enemy.

 

People here got it so very very wrong. 

 

lmao at this response. is this real?

wow has 10 million subs, they could probably come up with a better commercial idea than a joke that had gotten stale even 6 years ago.

but you know it's just a silly commercial, the way you interpreted such a small comment as "hatred" is pretty sad. the wow defense force roots sure run deep

this joke is 6 years too late

come on blizz you can do better than this

Originally posted by Fozzik

 

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Originally posted by Icewhite

Foz, "they" didn't all ask for that.  But it's ok if you ask for it.

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You're right. Most people are asking for more formulaic, shallow games released unfinished. That's certainly proven to be a formula for massive success so far. (sarcasm intended)

Of course I didn't mean everyone. Some people are willing to continue to slog through the same old mechanics expressed in ever-simpler and shallower ways in order to enjoy a franchise or a few new elements...but you must admit there are a substantial number of folks who seem to not be satisfied with the state and direction of the genre.

They leave each new game after a month or two, or never buy them at all after playing them in beta. They head back to their old game, or sit on the sidelines and continue to wait for some developer to get a clue. Many of those players probably couldn't tell you exactly what's been missing (so a developer asking them doesn't help). Partly because it's so many different things that must come together to make a game good. Its really hard to put our fingers on that certain something...the sum that's greater than its parts...but we know it when we see it, and we know when it's NOT there.

Hopefully games like Wildstar, GW2, TSW, and Copernicus will change that. I'm feeling optimistic, can't you tell?

 

pretty much this. it's almost like marketing at this point. if you're making an MMO, you have to make a "we're listening" press release.  at this point there's nothing really special about it, it's just trying to look good.