Originally posted by Theocritus
      So I guess if we didn't like TSW then we aren't really gamers??

people throwing that around are just the fanboys being bitter mad that the game isn't flourishing

with that said though, it is a shame the game isn't doing better. it's not a very polished game, but it's definitely refreshing to play. also the only MMO i've played that manages to tell a decent story as you play through it (didn't need 300 million dollars to tell that story either)

Originally posted by gordiflu

Originally posted by Asamof

Originally posted by xDayx
The review is based on someone with a "new normal" opinion of how the themeparks should be in there opinion. What they fail to see is that the mass-appeal market is saturated with rifts, gw2's, swtors, etc. We don't need another one of those. I will agree on the F2P being restrictive, that's the only thing they said right... But then again it's done typical Sony style.

how's vanguards model different than those theme park games that you listed?

I asume you are not actually referring to the revenue model, since the three games have a different model right now. So I ll guess you are talking about the game itself.

It's different in so many ways... however, the main difference is depth and scope. VG was not created as a quick grab, but as a very long journey with an insane amount of options. It focuses on community and encourages grouping. Even when farming crafting materials it is more profitable if you do it in a group. And is way way deeper and more inmersive than any of those themeparks. Sumarizing, it's way deeper and wider than your average MMO, and is aiming for a more demanding kind of player.

This is why, despite all the rampant bugs and horrendous release, it is still surviving. Agonizing but surviving. I doubt any of these modern games would have managed in a similar situation.

I hope I did not sound like a fanboi, sigh. It's just an honest opinion.

 

I was talking about gameplay, thanks for answering! 

iirc this game was supposed to be a spiritual successor to EQ1? so that would mean soloing is possible, but puts you at a big disadvantage compared with grouping? I know about diplomacy and crafting being their own entities, but can you be more specific on the depth part? compared to other current mmos today

Originally posted by xDayx
The review is based on someone with a "new normal" opinion of how the themeparks should be in there opinion. What they fail to see is that the mass-appeal market is saturated with rifts, gw2's, swtors, etc. We don't need another one of those. I will agree on the F2P being restrictive, that's the only thing they said right... But then again it's done typical Sony style.

how's vanguards model different than those theme park games that you listed?

Using a respec in this game will secretly label you as a 'cheater' online, sharing the same exact title with people who hack character lvls and items. Then you get persecuted by the online community for having this title 

for not wanting to waste your time remaking bad characters

and you will make bad characters, the tooltips are so poorly labeled and the game mechanics can be vague at times. not to mention the many useless skills

 paragon studios forms a new company and starts working on a spiritual successor to CoH, the only worthwhile super hero themed MMO

if only..

GW2 is megafun and I love it, but changed everything? lmao

my ears...

was it really nessecary to squeal into the mic like that?

the constant diablo 3 nerf patches are always a sore spot for players

not wanting to be outdone, runic games put out a TL2 patch that literally erased bank items

definitely put blizzard in their place with that one!

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

What a nice gift to people that may not even buy the game.  Thanks for the info!

 

I'm still on the fence regarding TL2 but I'm sure I'll eventually get it.  I just have a feeling it won't interest me more than a few weeks.  This is based on TL1 being played by me for only about 25-30 hours.  The same was true of Titan Quest and Dungeon Siege.  Not having closed BNET like servers is a longevity killer for me in ARPGs.

if that's the case then you should just wait for the inevitable 2$-5$ steam sales

i'm not too sad since there's wasteland and project eternity in development, it's not like real RPGs aren't being made anymore

we can still laugh at bioware's future DA2's and TOR's too

Originally posted by DSWBeef
Code for "We hate what EA has done to BW, so we're gone"

Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by Asamof

Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by Asamof

from the fine folks who brought you Hellgate London...

 

a marvel themed online game!

Yep lets completely gloss over that the dude is the creater of the greatest ARPG series ever created...

 

or we can gloss over the fact that he was a co-creator amongst many who helped concieve the diablo series

and that after b.north disbanded, many of his colleagues went on to do great things (guild wars series, torchlight series) and that some of them were not so successful on their own when they didn't have their coworkers to carry them

Diablo was his concept, he named the god damn thing after his hometown... Not for that guy there would be no diablo.

again, completely missed the point

Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by Asamof

from the fine folks who brought you Hellgate London...

 

a marvel themed online game!

Yep lets completely gloss over that the dude is the creater of the greatest ARPG series ever created...

 

or we can gloss over the fact that he was a co-creator amongst many who helped concieve the diablo series

and that after b.north disbanded, many of his colleagues went on to do great things (guild wars series, torchlight series) and that some of them were not so successful on their own when they didn't have their coworkers to carry them

Originally posted by Psychow
Are we going to make every game's minor game updates "news" now? Or just GW2 since it's a hot topic this month?

cause it's a hot topic

and guild wars 2 is sizzlin hot

from the fine folks who brought you Hellgate London...

a marvel themed online game!

Originally posted by Calhoun619

Where were all these supporters before the closing announcement? I see petitions and all this support talk but if so many love CoH and want it to stay alive why werent you all subbing to it in the first place?

So if they manage to keep it alive I hope the server pop is flowing because of all these supporters that are so up in arms about the closing, yet im sure 97% werent even playing the game to begin with.

didnt help that everyone who was playing was PLing through mission architect instead of actually playing the game

Originally posted by Pokket

Originally posted by Czanrei
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It's a good thing all my viewers are strapped to their computer chairs and forced to read this article. Actually, wait, no they are not :P

 

If you think about it, I mean take like 10 seconds to think deeper than surface value for once, you'll see that I'm talking about how there is no missing component in games. At least not any one missing component, but after a game releases and people begin to assess why they "fail", they always try to look for what it is missing ("oh, it's not f2p", "oh questing sucks", "oh themepark"). They always sum it up to one or two major things, which may be the case, but they are usually missing the nail completely (rather than hitting it on the head ~.^).

 

Perhaps maybe I am trying to make a comment on that. Just perhaps. I just made cats the missing component, because I like cats... and they are missing. So I blame that.

 

I'll remove your thinking cap now.

 

 

what a condescending post wow