Does the game allow the players to do this?  Is it through legitimate game mechanics or some bug?

If it's through legitimate game mechanics, the developers should share the majority of the blame here, and I ask that if developers did not intend for players to play this way, why were the ever allowed to in the first place?

What really ruined MMORPG communities was the introduction of solo quest progression.  Now, I might argue that solo quest grinding certainly made MMORPGs more playable for the average person, but after that method of progression became popular, players had little reason to make friends with one another at least until endgame.

The argument is often that the cross-server LFGs hurt players' ability to make friends,  but when probably less than 25% of the playerbase actually participates in group-based content, introducing a LFG helps more people than it hurts.  After Blizzard implemented cross-server LFG in WoW, I was able to experience virtually every single dungeon in the game multiple times.  I don't know if I could've said the same for an older, solo-focused MMO without a LFG system.

How active are the German and French sections of the forums?  If they're not very active, BioWare probably doesn't need a community manager for that portion of the population, given the current state of the game.

Seems like a lot of immature people are pitching a fit over something that's really doesn't amount to much.

Originally posted by BillMurphy

Call me crazy, but if a game's fun, it's fun.  I disagree with the OP's outright dislike for a game he may not have played yet, but he's right about a couple things.

Neverwinter is fun, but it DOES need more classes, and more D&D-like functions.  But it's definitely enjoyable to play, that I can attest to after last night.    There were quests I played off-stream that had traps to disarm, but why weren't they in the group-centric dungeon?

The classes and races selection are definitely the weak spot for me, but so far, it's looking good. IF you can get past that it's not going to be the PnP game in MMO form, as no one ever said it was.

Is there any kind of NDA in place for this game during the beta weekend that would prevent just anyone from making videos or streaming?

Basically, the GW2 social experiment failed.  The forced level scaling didn't really do enough to make sure there was still a healthy spread of players in all leveling areas.  There isn't really much of an incentive for max level players to grind out low level DEs.

Actually, you don't even run into that many DEs now.  I would assume this is due to the lack of people in the mid-level zones, but from 28-40 I think I ran maybe 4-5 DEs.  Most of my leveling these days is done via hearts, story quests, exploration, skill challenges, and mob grinding.

Still, I don't think DEs were a mistake on Anet's part.  They clearly don't work as advertised, but anyone with functioning brain cells didn't expect them to be much else aside from glorified public quests.  They low level ones were fun when the game had the low level population to support them, and I would assume max level characters still run DEs in higher level zones.

GW2 is like any MMO that has been out for several months.  You're just playing catch-up until you reach max level.  Now the problem with GW2 is the lack of meaningful things to do once you reach the max level.

I'm glad you're enjoying SW:TOR.  You seem like a guy who came into the game with reasonable expectations.  Very few people here did.

As for me, I've played my fill of SW:TOR as it stands.  I've gotten to level 50 and completed the first tier of raiding.  I could go back and do more raiding, but I don't have the time to dedicate to a consistant raid schedule.  Because of that, aside from leveling alts, there's not a lot for me to do in SW:TOR.  

I'm going to wait on the "expansion" before I decide to come back again.  The fact that BioWare expects us to pay for that glorified live update does upset me though.

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Trionicus

 

If for whatever reason the PC doesn't power up then they can come ask this forum or one of the 100s of helpful tech forums for assistance. Either way the op is the friend of the person who is buying a store bought, It is assumed he would help with the assembly.

Right...

 

If you don't know what you're doing, building a PC can be a massive pain in the ass.  Of course, if you wanna learn, the best way is to just jump in and try, but if you just want a working machine, pay a little extra and have it built by professionals.

 

It's not as easy as you and others make it sound to most people.

If building a PC is beyond someones ability then you're right they need a built machine but any $300-400 machine will fit their needs.

For everyone else who needs something more then they know how to goto www.youtube.com and search DIY PC guides.

lol...

There are plenty of PC gamers out there who don't know how to build entire machines.  That doesn't mean they're computer illiterate.  They've probably at least shoved a few video cards or RAM sticks into their motherboard, but they may not have built a computer from the ground up.

Local computer shops and companies like Alienware and iBuyPower make plenty of money off of these people.  

I'm not saying people shouldn't learn how to build their own PC.  It's a valuable skill, but it's not as simple as you people are trying to make it sound.  The devil is in the details.  No, I doubt someone unfamiliar with building PCs knows anything about ESD, Corrosion, proper cooling, applying thermal paste, how big the power supply should be, or what brand, how to properly seat RAM, the differences in dual and triple channel, chosing a processor based on socket type on the motherboard.  Even though plugging things into the motherboard has been made easier (what hasn't been made easier these days?), it'll still be a slow process for someone unfamiliar with building computers.

Then there's overclocking.  People who don't know how to build computers probably don't even need to think about messing with overclocking, yet plenty of people think overclocking is some sort of a given when it comes to building a PC.

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Trionicus

Happy Holidays my fellow enthusiasts, how you all doing?

I'm hoping you all can nerd rage and help me with a little problem I have here. I've got yet another friend who has recently bought a computer from best buy. I believe it is this model: 

 

http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/5555478/asus-essentio-desktop-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-reviews/reviews.htm

 

 

Is it common sense to use spacers when mounting the motherboard to the side of the case?

It is common sense to follow the instructions when you don't know what you're doing.

You're assuming that the motherboard will instruct the builder to use spacers.  Not all of them do.

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Trionicus

 

If for whatever reason the PC doesn't power up then they can come ask this forum or one of the 100s of helpful tech forums for assistance. Either way the op is the friend of the person who is buying a store bought, It is assumed he would help with the assembly.

Right...

If you don't know what you're doing, building a PC can be a massive pain in the ass.  Of course, if you wanna learn, the best way is to just jump in and try, but if you just want a working machine, pay a little extra and have it built by professionals.

It's not as easy as you and others make it sound to most people.

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Trionicus

Happy Holidays my fellow enthusiasts, how you all doing?

I'm hoping you all can nerd rage and help me with a little problem I have here. I've got yet another friend who has recently bought a computer from best buy. I believe it is this model: 

 

http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/5555478/asus-essentio-desktop-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-reviews/reviews.htm

 

It cost my friend roughly $800 - I'm assuming this doesn't include sales tax. My friend then continued on to buy a replacement video card, the AMD 7770 and an unknown corsair 700W power supply.

 

The bottom line: I was trying to convince my friend that with basically $900 she could assemble a much better PC herself. Can I get a little support here, I don't want her to get the short end of the stick as I've seen so many friends down that path, purchasing store bought PC's only to have it backfire in their face. All the items were bought in the last 24hrs so i'm thinking that returning everything shouldn't be a problem.

 

She mostly plays MMO's but would like her PC to be capable of running the most graphic intensive games out today at decent framerates.

 

For some unknown reason she thinks made a great purchase, I would like us to turn her from the dark side!

Does she know how to build her own PC?  If not, will you help her?

It's not easy in any sense of the word unless you've built plenty before.  I get annoyed by people who keep telling random people on the internet to build their own PCs.  $900  is a huge investment and all that money goes into the trash if you break something.  

 

 

Honestly, if you can't build a PC in the modern era, then I wouldn't recommend using one, either. You plug square pegs into squarr holes and round pegs into round holes. DONE!

 

Agreed

More or less its pretty easy. It is just a few things to know which one would consider common sense but obviously it is lacking in the modern world. Don't go trying to generate static by rubbing your feet across your carpet then attempt to put a PC together. Don't use brute force, it is rarely needed except when trying to get certain heatsinks to sit right.

Watch a youtube video on how to put a PC together or even use one of neweggs videos, they're usually pretty good at showing idiots putting pc's together.

The hardest part in getting a standard pc put together these days is cable management and sometimes front panel plug ins.

Is it common sense to use spacers when mounting the motherboard to the side of the case?

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Trionicus

Happy Holidays my fellow enthusiasts, how you all doing?

I'm hoping you all can nerd rage and help me with a little problem I have here. I've got yet another friend who has recently bought a computer from best buy. I believe it is this model: 

 

http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/5555478/asus-essentio-desktop-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-reviews/reviews.htm

 

It cost my friend roughly $800 - I'm assuming this doesn't include sales tax. My friend then continued on to buy a replacement video card, the AMD 7770 and an unknown corsair 700W power supply.

 

The bottom line: I was trying to convince my friend that with basically $900 she could assemble a much better PC herself. Can I get a little support here, I don't want her to get the short end of the stick as I've seen so many friends down that path, purchasing store bought PC's only to have it backfire in their face. All the items were bought in the last 24hrs so i'm thinking that returning everything shouldn't be a problem.

 

She mostly plays MMO's but would like her PC to be capable of running the most graphic intensive games out today at decent framerates.

 

For some unknown reason she thinks made a great purchase, I would like us to turn her from the dark side!

Does she know how to build her own PC?  If not, will you help her?

It's not easy in any sense of the word unless you've built plenty before.  I get annoyed by people who keep telling random people on the internet to build their own PCs.  $900  is a huge investment and all that money goes into the trash if you break something.  

 

 

Honestly, if you can't build a PC in the modern era, then I wouldn't recommend using one, either. You plug square pegs into squarr holes and round pegs into round holes. DONE!

Say you've never built a PC before.  You don't even know what all the connectors are called.  You just follow the instructions found in the three or four different manuals you're referencing while you build your machine.  You finally get the machine built, yet when you press power on the case, nothing happens.

What is the newbie going to do then?

Originally posted by Trionicus

Happy Holidays my fellow enthusiasts, how you all doing?

I'm hoping you all can nerd rage and help me with a little problem I have here. I've got yet another friend who has recently bought a computer from best buy. I believe it is this model: 

 

http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/5555478/asus-essentio-desktop-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-reviews/reviews.htm

 

It cost my friend roughly $800 - I'm assuming this doesn't include sales tax. My friend then continued on to buy a replacement video card, the AMD 7770 and an unknown corsair 700W power supply.

 

The bottom line: I was trying to convince my friend that with basically $900 she could assemble a much better PC herself. Can I get a little support here, I don't want her to get the short end of the stick as I've seen so many friends down that path, purchasing store bought PC's only to have it backfire in their face. All the items were bought in the last 24hrs so i'm thinking that returning everything shouldn't be a problem.

 

She mostly plays MMO's but would like her PC to be capable of running the most graphic intensive games out today at decent framerates.

 

For some unknown reason she thinks made a great purchase, I would like us to turn her from the dark side!

Does she know how to build her own PC?  If not, will you help her?

It's not easy in any sense of the word unless you've built plenty before.  I get annoyed by people who keep telling random people on the internet to build their own PCs.  $900  is a huge investment and all that money goes into the trash if you break something.  

PC gaming is great for RTS games, FPS, MMORPGs, and some idie titles.

Some RPGs like Dragon Age work better on a PC even if they're still solid on a console.  Likewise, other RPGs like Skyrim seem to be designed more with a console in mind.

For the most part, I prefer to play non-RTS, MMO, or FPS games on a console simply because optimization issues aren't a factor.  Unless your system is about to break, your PS3 is going to play whatever game exactly like all the other PS3s.

Because of the huge amounts of hardware out there, it's easy to spend more money on your PC yet get less performance than your friend because you bought less common parts.