Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by Illyssia
I just wonder if Bioware/EA shouldn't use this as a learning curve and go for the Mass Effect MMO. That would be really cool. Especially if they went next gen Xbox/playstation and PC for it. Problem with SWTOR is they designed it as a single player mmorpg that had a small end game. After 6-9 months all the cool kids quit just leaving a game that went F2P and hardcore cash shop.

You certainly are not playing the game. 

Not really tempted to go again as I think the new planet maybe a little more content and not enough for myself to dip my toes into again.If you were playing the game in the F2P model then it might well work I guess.

Gameplay is one of the things ESO can really fine-tune during beta testing. Really in the end it comes down to fun gameplay and content. If gamers don't enjoy the ESO game they will quit.Similarly when they run out of fun ESO content they will quit. That is the challenge for the new mmorpgs. Reallly stack the content for players and fine tune the gaming experience.

Originally posted by expresso

Having had some time to digest and think this over the game is going to be MASSIVE!, might even out do LOL in the long run in the F2P space.

It has the ultimate trinity - Blizzard + Warcraft + notional F2P CCG model, going to be huge, I just hope Blizzard ploughs the money it earns into bigger games.

 

 

Fixed this for you. Reality is having a powerful credit card can advance you far and quickly in this WoW CCG. Ain't no such thing as a free lunch in Blizzard's gaming universe. 

Originally posted by DamonVile
a CCG...seriously.? Way to milk the hype of titan to sell garbage no one wants Blizzard.

It's a no brainer money spiner for the business suits who run Blizzard. Take (or should that be steal) the Magic: The Gathering and then transport it into the WoW universe. Must be a zillion deck building collectable options with which to leach money away from players. 

Originally posted by birdycephon
I wonder how much housing is going to cost.

Well, that all depends on when they finalise the games cash shop most likely.

Originally posted by ZeGerman
Did anyone else take a look at that screen shot of the three guys and notice how poor the graphics engine is?  Im not saying the art style is poor im talking about the incredibly low polygon rate in the leaves grass buszhes and trees.  I get that most MMO's dont put alot of that detail in but do you really want that detail if this is how it will look? Hopefuly this is not really a screen shot and its just art that ESO threw together.

Zenimax seem to have used the Hero engine and there own proprietary engine for ESO so I would be surprised if the game had next generation standards of graphics. I would have thought they would be going for comparability in graphics with Guild Wars 2, and try for good high fantasy art landscapes to carry the game's look.

They seem to be going the major story arc with plenty of side stuff to keep you amused route as you journey from one ride to the next in the high fantasy ESO themepark. Still at least it looks like being sub model at first so we aren't nickled and dimed for more bag space by the usual par for the f2p course in-game cash shop.

Crafting looks like it is side stuff in ESO. Yes you may be able to make nice stuff and enhance items, but I haven't seen anything that suggests anything new or innovative here yet.

Originally posted by jfoytek

Well if this is a Quest Based Linear Themepark I am out!

 I want a Sandbox, non linear, non quest based game inside of the world of Tamriel....

ESO is a story-based themepark mmo.

Originally posted by drivendawn
I am very glad to see they are making the other areas accessible.

It's really hard to say what the end-game unlock content will be like at this stage as you are just getting hype fed to press events . Gaming journalists are just seeing the starting zone, and in quite a limited way. That's not to say ESO won't be good. We just won't see much untill ESO get nearer to a full large scale beta.

Originally posted by SaintWalker44
Thanks Captain Obvious..................

At least he isn't playing the incredible sulk here. But, I think untill you get to large scale beta then it is hard to tell how ready the game might actually be. I am thinking we could be talking end of the year, but that could slip into 2014 so easily.

Originally posted by drivendawn

Originally posted by GoldenArrow
FFXIV ARR is something every MMO gamer should be excited about, along with TESO.

 

Agreed sir  ^ ^

 

It will indeed be the real deal this time. XIV was very PvE hardcore in its approach and had some technical issues. ARR is easier for Joe and Jane casual GW2 gamer to get into, and given that GW2 is aging you will get players hoping onto newer games. Similar thing with WoW, people get fed up with the lack of content at 90 and want to move on from a gear treadmill end-game onto something new.

The tricky thing about classes such as Wizard, mage, or sorcerer is that they live or die as a class by their ability to cast flashy magic graphics. Weaponry doesn't really matter at all. There isn't really anywhere new ESO can go with magic classes. If they don't produce huge explosions then nobody wants to know about them as a class.

I played XIV at launch, and it had a few technical issues, though less than Sim City Always Online strangely enough, and I thought it was just way too hardcore a PvE sandbox for most gamers to take. Tremendous freedom, but way to little to guide most peeps. XIV reborn I am thinking of playing on PS3 at release. Will be a blast on console. While many like Bill and the guys here seem to be looking to jump on the Champions online rework in Neverwinter from there GW2 casual heaven, I am thinking XIV is the fantasy mmo to play untill Elder Scrolls Online eventually goes live some way off from this present point in time.

Originally posted by Thane

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Does the 9 million still count the time cards in China?

Anyway, I think it is interesting that Greg is telling us that they are preparing for a new expansion to WoW. I am guessing for 2014. My approach to Panda was to simply play a class I liked from level 1 till level 90 then quit. A lot of game, but I didn't like the Panda art so much. A future and darker kinda expansion might make me dip into the end game. But, having done the WoW raid gear treadmill in both hardcore and casual guilds I feel I don't need to go there just yet.

Originally posted by SBFord

 

If you go based on the Heavy and Light Armor models in the Elder Scrolls games, how much protection will these afford players? 

 

I wouldn't worry too much here. MMO players have been wearing the Steel Bikini for one reason or another in so many high fantasy MMOs that it should be expected that you will encounter someone tanking powerful foes in their undies. Another reality of MMOs is unfathomably large swords, so big that to wield them in combat would cause the player to fall over, assuming they could lift the mighty blade from the ground, if they ever tried to swing it. A sense of realism has never held back MMO developers in the past, and I am expecting high fantasy armor excess with ESO too.

Originally posted by azarhal

 

Unless the "soft-target" is a fancy name for magnetic/sticky aim like in Neverwinter Online.

Just think WoW combat...you tab target around and even if technically a NPC or PC in the way the game mechanics allow the hit.