Originally posted by Terranah

 

 

So...what the hell do I need an Xbox One for?  Well, originally I would have said gaming.  But I can game on my pc and stream to my tv, so no...I don't NEED it.  But I like to have options.

 

This is where M$ have messed up on Xbox One, the focus isn't clearly gaming and the are going to hit you in the wallet big time  over game DRM.

No, Steve Ballmer want Xbox  One to also be the home entertainment box, and that's why social networking and TV are big here. It is a mistake as at launch they aren't going to be able to roll out the TV stuff world wide. If you want a TV box of tricks then  things like Apple TV make sense and so do the next generation TiVos which my ISP provides me with. SImply, put, M$ haven't a clue here.

PS4 is the gamers choice of console now, M$ don't have a clear direction anymore and Nintendo just sell toys for the children. 

Bill, about the shameless rip-offs of IP. There is a book by Max Brooks called World War Z....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-War-Z-Max-Brooks/dp/0715637037

Maybe DayZ stole a thing or two out of here, e.g. The name and zombie stuff? it was written in 2006 BTW.

Originally posted by Yodi2007

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Wraithone

Laugh if you wish. Given the paranoia back in Mordor on the Potomac, do you really think they would pass up the opportunities to be had from such systems?  ^^  Not to mention that Mickysoft is such a Good Corporate Citizen, they wouldn't have any problems with it.  Its all for the HomeLand, after all... ^^

As Yakov Smirnoff was fond of saying, In Soviet America, TV watches you!... ^^

You know, I hear you can cover the Kinect with a tin-foil hat!

Just make sure its tin foil... Aluminium doesn't work nearly as well...

I personally hate the idea of Kinect for gaming - but using voice + gestures to control my TV/movies/apps etc. makes 100% perfect sense and is probably the coolest thus-far-announced feature.

funny thing is my 60" Samsung Smart TV does most if not all what the Box one can do except play games. The service is free so I don't have to pay M$ any fees to connect! So for 2500.00 I got one of the best tvs on the market!

That's where M$ really are shooting themselves in the head here. If you don't like their TV aspect to the new console media centre, and most of the world won't be able to use it at launch, then it's crazy to invest in buying it. The media content seems to be where Steve Ballmer and colleagues are coming from on this one, but they are forgetting that while that is all well and good it is a games console, so to have it  weaker versus PS4 in terms of GPU will really hurt. PS4 is the gamers choice for next gen console. Nintendo released another Toy for playing Mario and Zelda games and M$ have re-imagined the windows media center PC in console form.

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by Cacolaco

I really don't understand why so many people feel like Microsoft screwed something up here. I did not own the Xbox or the Xbox 360. I have owned PS, PS2, Gamecube, PS3, and Wii, and after seeing Microsoft's presentation, I have to say that I would definitely consider going with the Xbox One.

I know a lot of you didn't like what you saw, but I was pretty impressed. Sony is really going to have to show me something awesome.

 

 

 

When we get E3 and people see the games that this system is going to have all this hate is going to go away.

Nope, Sony is going to blow away Xbox One at E3. Xbox One is going for TV, it is Steve Ballmer's next attempt at a Windows Media PC. 

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Illyssia

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Illyssia

The PS4 is a more powerful beast than Xbox One and it is easy to write for. Add those together PS4 is going to blow the Xbox One out of the water.

Where is this coming from?

"Xbox One is powered by an 8-core x86 AMD CPU, and a GPU that’s very similar to the Radeon 7790. There’s 8GB of DDR3 RAM (shared between the CPU and GPU), 32MB of very fast SRAM on the graphics die, and a total of 200GB of memory bandwidth."

That's actually more memory bandwidth than PS4 and the rest is almost exactly the same. Real question is Xbox OS vs PS4 OS and how easy it is to code/design for and optimize, but since XBO OS almost 100% guaranteed to be based off of a Windows kernel...

How is PS4 more powerful? I don't get it. Rumors of 40nm vs 28nm are all rumor. Neither Sony nor MS have confirmed exact details yet, but the 7790 is 28nm so logically I'd assume both Sony and MS are using 28nm died processors too.

Why? Duh it makes sense. If AMD is making all the guts for both + all of their new tech for PC line is going on 28nm, they'd have to retool their entire production globally to 28nm die, which they have, so it'd be stupid and MORE expensive to stick a line at legacy 40nm.

Price goes down for Sony/MS cause all production is standard, cheaper for AMD so cheaper for MS/Sony = cheaper consoles no more 6-700$ consoles at release - Sony learned that lesson.

PS4 GPU is more powerful.

Says??? Source?

Widely known. Below is example.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Illyssia

Originally posted by Precusor

While the PS4 system specs isn't all that great its still far better than the xbox one.

So the PS4 multiplats should get some good PC ports.

The PS4 is a more powerful beast than Xbox One and it is easy to write for. Add those together PS4 is going to blow the Xbox One out of the water.

Where is this coming from?

"Xbox One is powered by an 8-core x86 AMD CPU, and a GPU that’s very similar to the Radeon 7790. There’s 8GB of DDR3 RAM (shared between the CPU and GPU), 32MB of very fast SRAM on the graphics die, and a total of 200GB of memory bandwidth."

That's actually more memory bandwidth than PS4 and the rest is almost exactly the same. Real question is Xbox OS vs PS4 OS and how easy it is to code/design for and optimize, but since XBO OS almost 100% guaranteed to be based off of a Windows kernel...

How is PS4 more powerful? I don't get it. Rumors of 40nm vs 28nm are all rumor. Neither Sony nor MS have confirmed exact details yet, but the 7790 is 28nm so logically I'd assume both Sony and MS are using 28nm died processors too.

Why? Duh it makes sense. If AMD is making all the guts for both + all of their new tech for PC line is going on 28nm, they'd have to retool their entire production globally to 28nm die, which they have, so it'd be stupid and MORE expensive to stick a line at legacy 40nm.

Price goes down for Sony/MS cause all production is standard, cheaper for AMD so cheaper for MS/Sony = cheaper consoles no more 6-700$ consoles at release - Sony learned that lesson.

PS4 GPU is more powerful.

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by AlBQuirky

Did ANY gamers ask for these features? Really?

At this point, I doubt Mickysoft is targeting gamers.  They seem to be going after the facepalm (facebook...), TV watching crowd.   Someone over there has their eyes on being a "social/entertainment" hub, rather than a game console.  We will have to see what happens at E3.

Well here's the thing. The TV features will only be full available to USA customers at launch. Outside of the USA and you have to wait for M$ to roll out to you.

Originally posted by Precusor

Originally posted by Gravarg

yup :)

and The ps4 has really good graphics, but just like the ps3, they'll be outdated within 6 months of release...where as a PC if you want, you'll never have dated graphics :)

While the PS4 system specs isn't all that great its still far better than the xbox one.

 

So the PS4 multiplats should get some good PC ports.

The PS4 is a more powerful beast than Xbox One and it is easy to write for. Add those together PS4 is going to blow the Xbox One out of the water.

Originally posted by BadSpock

What people I think are failing to realize here is that the new XBOX is going to be your one-stop shop for everything you already have or own.

It won't run your Xbox 360 games.

I just kinda hate the way M$ have made the One a re imagining of the a Windows Media Center PC from about 5 years ago...

versus...

PS4 is the gamers choice for next gen console.

Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

 

HIGHLIGHTS:

- You can no longer play your Xbox 360 titles on this new Xbox One.

- You can no longer play your Xbox Live Arcade games on this new console.

- The console will not work without the Kinnect attached to it.

- The Xbox One will feature games in bluray discs (25gb to 50gb in size) and games MUST be installed on the tiny 500gb hard drive.

- If you want to play Pre-Owned games, even after buying those games, you MUST pay a fee to install them on your console, meaning not only you pay for the second hand game but must also pay another fee just to be able to use it.

- Xbox One will rely heavily on social networks, making it a portable Facebook.

- Redesigned controller will have better button response and cross section directional pad.

- Heavily focused on watching TV and Sports/Movies, making it less of a console and more of a TiVo/TV Box.

 

 

Microsoft have gone the “muscle car” route with Xbox One. Yes, it may have quite a big engine and bodywork, but it is a beast to drive and likely to develop engine issues all to soon.

Yes, People, I will write it here. Microsoft are going to blow it with this console. They are going to lose all the indie and small game developers who will hop on the gamer friendly PS4.

In recent years Microsoft has started to lose it as a software company and this will lose the respect they got from Xbox 360. I will be flying the Japanese   console flag happily with a PS4 purchase this year, I don’t need a big ugly Pontiac hooked up to my Smart TV. Definitely unlikely to impress in Europe or Asia, but maybe USA will save Microsoft from oblivion here.

Originally posted by Purutzil

Originally posted by Ingvar
No trailer? :(

The loss of over 2 million subscribers was the cash they would of spent on the trailer, sorry. XD

Blizz really need to focus and move onto a new expansion. Panda is already looking old for them.

Originally posted by Soldor
Been waiting for this. Hope it's like EQ1

Likely will be waiting for this till 2014. That's where I would put my money on a release, mid-late 2014.

Well, folks, as we know CPPs cash cow is EVE and at the moment it is a Mac and PC client game. Obviously expanding the game client into other areas is one way for CCP to grow as a software company. 

However, after Dust 514 and the PSN experience many would have thought a console client might be an idea for EVE. Logical, noes?

Well, mmo gaming people the surprise is that our Icelandic software developers are planning for mobile, and Thor Gunnarsson proclaimed...

“Ultimately, our strategy is to create bespoke experiences that are tailored to what our fans are using,”

and,

“Of course, they’re using tablets and smartphones, day-in and day-out. W e want to bring another access point to them, wherever they are.”

So there we have it, you will soon be able to play EVE on your iPhone or iPad. Clearly, CCP have purchased iOS development kits and the challenge is only now to port a client, since EVE is a point-and-click game the interface must be changes to allow touch and swipe gestures.

Feel free to comment guys on the diversification of EVE game client and can read more at 

http://toucharcade.com/2013/05/20/we-sit-down-with-ccp-and-learn-of-mysterious-plans-for-a-possible-eve-mobile/

Well folks, a lot of us have long had major doubts about how good Dust 514 might be, and the reviews in so far seem to suggest we were all right. The game just isn't an epic, in fact it is average at best, e.g.

http://www.destructoid.com/review-dust-514-253697.phtml

Now, as we all know it bolts onto the EVE game as a sort of PS3 shooter expansion. The choice in PS3 was questioned from the start as it is at odds with the EVE platform of PC only. People, why didn't CCP make a console port of EVE? Why not a PC version of Dust at launch.

Finally, it hits in the wake of Planetside 2, which is a good game.

As always everyone. feel free to post your thoughts on Dust. Is it actually a good game, or has the turkey finally landed for CCP.

Well, folks as I predicted some time ago the bubble after the Panda launch has burst now and WoW sub numbers are going down and are at 8 million and dropping fast. I think the business suits who run Blizzard must be worried and they will have to act as the WoW sub number could fall below 5 million by the end of the year. So what can they do? Two things I can think of. One is another large content expansion. They must have this in the pipeline, and could put bodies on the project from other teams to get a product out by  the end of this year or early next year, that could keep the cash cow floating for a while longer. The second option is F2P. This wouldn't be so hard for Blizz as some aspects of the game can be F2P, and they have a cosmetic item cash shop already. The full-on cash shop, such as found in GW2, and the F2P model with perhaps an expansion too could change the game for Blizzard and WoW and see it recapture its fading gaming glories.

I think the future for WoW is solo scenarios and group dungeons/small raids, and this sort of demonstrates that the business suits who run Blizzard are headed in that direction. What they have in WoW is a very large levelling game, that then heads into a kinda dull gear treadmill. Solo Scenarios and group dungeons is the way to avoid this and give people a reason to keep playing. WoW has a history of borrowing from other games, and with GW2 and TESO (which is still in beta) being small group and solo play orientated, it is likely that is the direction WoW is headed too now. All they need is another expansion and I will dip my toes into the game again, I played Panda from 1- 90 as a Gnome Mage and it was a blast, but at 90 I stopped as I don't want to play the WoW gear/raid treadmill again.