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It seems that this game is just what ive been waiting for. When I have time I will check it out.

Thanks for this thread, good to see some people actually like to play real mmoRPGs :)

Star wars was never about lightsabers. They were only sparingly used in the first triology. The uniqueness of it was destroyed with the prequels. George added them everywhere, simply because he is such a horrible screenwriter that he needed to distract the audience with action and special effects.

The thing I dislike most about swtor is that they kind of adapted the clean and lifeless style of the prequels. Kotor was much more gritty like the old movies. Just my opinion.



Originally posted by Rockgod99

Man... Who would have guessed that Fans of a game, would take offense to someones negative opinions on that games official forums.

Just amazing...

Ye I mean like, any rational person would be offended when someone has an opposing opinion to theirs, RIGHT?




The more I read the more I see how RPGs are dead.

There are two factions at war, some grounds are contested, some are not. When a game has this premise, then my char will RP to that premise. So if  I see a soldier of an oposing faction in a contested area, then regardless of level I will kill him. He is the enemy. If he keeps coming back to the area and I have interest in that area aswell, I will kill him if i see him again. Why? Because it is a CONTESTED area. AND HE IS THE ENEMY. I do not grief. I do not imagine a guy behind his PC, I see the ENEMY. I do not get a feeling of greatness, no no i just killed that filthy horde character who is a threat to my faction!

I really do not see this as problematic. It gives the premise of the factions that the game laid out meaning. Sometimes you are unable to go to a contested area because the ENEMY has taken it. It is part of the fun and excitement. You can not handle the enemy? Go to a different area. A game must be designed that there are multiple areas of interest at any given level so you can not be fully blocked out by the enemy.

But what I see here: People getting upset if they are killed once or twice during their online period. OMG. How horrible, now you have to take 15 seconds to respawn. That must really be annoying. Maybe play less console games where the game constantly tells you how awesome you are and where you always win so that you can grow a thicker skin. Maybe try some trial and error games, it will make you feel real frustration.

Now the above is not targeted at anyone who doesn't like openworld pvp. Not at all. Everyone likes different things and there is nothing wrong with disliking PVP.  But if it is a feature and a premise of the damn game, then you better accept that you can get killed sometimes. I agree that it is very annoying when you get griefed, however getting killed once or twice IS NOT REALLY GRIEFING OR GANKING, it is getting killed by the enemy that only gives u the hassle of 30 seconds lost.

Rift Rant!
General Discussion « Rift
1/31/11 4:38:19 PM

Regardless of my opinion on Rift, this is the worst adaption ive seen so far and I have seen a lot.

Originally posted by Sanity888

Toxilium: While I agree that TOR will probably be the best MMO ever, I disagree with your reasons. Your reasons is very fanboishy. "Just because it's Star Wars and like World of Warcraft and it is made from BioWare it will be the best game ever."

1. Star Wars isn't always what it cracks up to be. The NGE hit Star Wars Galaxies to make it more, "iconic" and, "Star Warsy", in the reduction of true playable content and it screwed everything up! And have you've tried the other SW MMO, Clone War Adventures? It's a kids' game!

2. World of Warcraft is not THAT great. And this game won't be EXACTLY like it anyways. I would rather see improvements from WoW than an identical copy of it, and so far I haven't been disappointed. More on that later.

3. BioWare has made some great games, but how do you absolutely know this will be one of them?

Now here are some real reasons you should get excited for TOR:

1. Over 300 Million has been spent creating and developing this game. The only MMO that comes close to that is World of Warcraft.

2. There will be over 15 large planets to explore and discover.

3. TOR adapted WoW's talent system and made it better. You become one of two and then you have two trees to go from there, in total, four skill trees per class. World of Warcraft only has three skill trees, and after Cata hit you could only use one of those trees until near-end game.

4. Complete voice-over acting.

5. Although it is kind of important this is made by BioWare, I think what is more important that this is the successor of KOTOR games, in more specific terms the first one (not saying the second one was bad, but it didn't have half as decent of a story). KOTOR to me is one of the greatest games of all time and this is its successor, meaning it will probably be better.

6. The option to do crafting as you will, or let your crew craft for you.

indeed a much better list of the strong points of ToR! While i am currently not a big fan of ToR, mainly becoz of the visual style (platicish) and because of the npc sidekicks, I am able to see that these points are at least very promising. I am not much of a fan of the somewhat predefined story, but the voiceacting is always better than written walls of text.

I really see how these points can make ToR stand out, allthough sadly my personal tastes interfere :(. The sidekick thing is really a no go for me. I am truely horrible at multitasking and therefore the sidekick will only annoy the hell out of me just like with every petclass i have every played.

If Bioware delivers on their promises and the game is solid at release, then this game will probably be huge succes and a lot of people are going to have a blast. Probably not me though, but that's fine.

Great OP. 100% agree. The main issue i have with current mmo's is that after a few hours in, I reflect upon myself and question wether this is worth my time. The lack of depth in most games is simply not worth it.

It seems that a lot of people gladly jump in "insert newest shiny clone here"  only to jump in the next one a few months later. They will say they had fun. But, you would also have fun with a SRPG. Probably a lot more since the mechanics in MMORPGs are just repeat repeat repeat and then...repeat some more. mmoRPGS are interesting for me because I jump in the world of the game and invest in it. I want to be part of the community, I want to RP. i want my invested time to be worth something: Friendships, enemies, trade relationship, a developed character with an ingame history, a living community etc.

I think themeparks can easily be combined with sandbox games. Whats against: housing in wow, SWG crafting in WoW, social rp in WoW etc. Right now games like WoW are played like competitive online console games. I honestly think that these people do not really like mmoRPGs, they just like competitive MMO games.

Originally posted by dinams
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by Yarly

This is a VERY pro-active profession!  Anet wasn't kidding about removing the reactive combat.


This changes the dynamics of mmos boys and girls.

slow down mr.sensationalism, its only a  cgi video.

lol you won this thread

Nah he lost his credibility instead

Originally posted by Pigozz
Originally posted by Werthe

Btw, am i the only one who thinks that the guardian showing the first skill is the spitting image of Orlando Bloom starring Legolas ?

HAHAha ninja'd I was just going to write that:D

Same here

I can confirm that servers are crashing constantly and there is major lag atm. There are huge ques for every server it seems and there are even people like myself who can even que up at all lol.

Got this info from another forum after I found out that 2 hours after beta went live I still couldnt connect. Seems a lot of people have problems.

Well so much for the praise of Trion by the Rift fans I guess. Not to say its bad or anything, just saying that this was just an incrdedibly stupid move by Trion to begin with.

1 of the better shooters released in the past few years. However it failed to entertain me as long as the classic battlefield games did. Rush is entertaining and intense, but it gets old after a while. The games sometimes feel more like fragfests and because of the phasing the battlefield is limited in size in contrast to the other BF games which had huge battlefields. The conquest mode falls short compared to conquest in the original BF series imo, mostly because it isn't played with as many players ofcourse.

Overall a fun and entertaining game, yet incapable of capturing the essence of the orgininal series. Ofcourse it never tried to, its more like the smaller brother that was mainly targeted at the console audience and the quick CoD gameplay. it does however crush most of the competition and offers a little more depth than the CoD series does these days. A series that was severely raped since CoD4 imo ;).

As most people know WoW is praised mainly for its rich and content filled endgame. However, it is this endgame that keeps me from playing the game. I have played WoW for quite some time, but every time a char would nearly hit endgame, I would roll a new one. Now this was both during vanilla and BC and even though Cath is offering some cool features and a lot of my friends play it, I still can’t motivate me to play it because of the endgame.
Why I dislike the endgame? Because it just feels like a giant waste of time. My main problem is probably because raiding is for BETTER gear. I really do not understand why people find it fun to do the same raid over and over to get the best gear and then, when everybody has the EXACT SAME best gear, will try to get the next ever better gear that came with the update.
For me, the endgame would be so much more interesting if the raid simply dropped vanity items. Remember in Vanilla that some players used to have those legendary weapons, like the sword with the electric spark all over it? I mean such items. Items that are special for their prestige value and look awesome but are not actually necessary to play the game. This would actually make all the old raids from previous expansions useable and worth visiting again, and could even make exploring worthwhile again if Bliz would add hidden caves with awesome loot in it all over the game world.
But where are the stats? Well stats come mainly from crafting and can be applied to the special gear gained from raids, like upgrade schematics. It would make crafting necessary and make the player economy flourish. The crafting should need a lot of valuable materials and hard to get schematics that can all be found within the raids and within the world in very exclusive places. This will make raiding the same raid multiple times for the materials worthwhile.
The reason why I would like this so much more is because I do not give a damn about stats. Especially when everyone can get them easily and there is constantly one armor set that is used by most people because it gives the best stats. I honestly do not see the fulfillment in raiding over and over again for the best gear, just so you can raid more…
Also, my system could offer harder raids as there is no unfair advantage of having the gear or not. This way the annoying mainstream players who want the best gear after 3 hours of playing won’t complain the game is too hard.
A short example that actually came from the misleading development videos of WAR:
You kill are very hard boss in the game, and you get his ugly head as loot and apply that on your armor.
To me, and flame me if you disagree sincerely, this system would hardly make the game less interesting for most of the playerbase. The content is still there, however now there is just a little more depth to crafting and you are not raiding the same content for gearscore but for the achievement in itself.
Originally posted by Jackcolt

"Way back at MW2" hahaha, way back at MW2, HAHAHAHA, that is fucking golden.

Ye, I kind of couldn't read on after that :p

Originally posted by mainvein33
Originally posted by impiro

The fact that you know how these forums are and yet you post the way you do tells me all i need to know. Is it ridculous how arguementative these forums are? IMHO yes sort of (opinion not fact), but Is it a fact that these forums are that way? YES. He should have very well known to post and leave the thread alone but each and every response is just another reason to attack him. He asked for it just like so many others and plays the victim card like it wasn't his fault.

No, the forums are not used the way they should and the OP is using it as intended. He is looking to voice his opinion and these forums are to facilitate on that. He enters a meta-discussion BECAUSE the other posters are simply wrong on this level. They have the wrong intentions, and he points that out. Just because most people have the wrong idea of what a discussion is and what the rules of discussing are is not the OP's fault in any way. You say leave it for what it is, I say fight it or ignore it and hope to find someone sane....

What i meant by the OP "wasn't wrong" is just factual. He presented some of his opinions (not facts) and they were valid. That doesnt mean he didnt ask for it. From the minute you mention I will wait for "x" game while you guys play this one your asking for it. From the minute it sounds like you dont like themepark games knowing full thats the game genre your asking for it. From the time you hit "POST MESSAGE" and you know something you have said might upset somebody your asking for it. It is the very nature of these forums. If you do not like it just leave.No matter how you feel about it the fact remains he posted thus he asked for it. It doesnt matter if its positive or negative voicing your opinions here means you best be ready to defend them and anything else you said nothing more nothing less. He simply could have refused to respond but he did (just like you and me) adding more fuel to the fire. You are actively playing this forum game and calling it childish  to quote you "No, the OP does not by definition have to follow the childish and ridiculous behaviour that makes up the current standard of these forums."
Yet that is exactly what he is doing with each reply (same as you and me). If you know what the response will be don't be pissed just accept it.

No that is not true at all, he is entering a meta-discussion because the invalid points and intentions of other poster force him to. It is ridiculous that when i try to have a civil discussion that i should keep in mind that other people are incapable of doing so. And even more ridiculous that because of this I should leave and not the people who do not know what a discussion is, even though we are on a discussionboard.

Like I have said before while I feel the game is not innovative it seems to me the game is polised and executes elements we have seen before in such a way that they are enjoyable. This is my basic arguement his could have been this simple also. 


Yes that simple, but also in a negative way. he might not find it enjoyable. When he would have said so, he would have gotten the same shit he is getting now because he is negative about something other people like and those people can not handle this. You already stated that the OP had VALID points. So thats not the problem. It seems the problem here is the fact that the OP is being negative. People for some reason can not handle negativity. i can be both positive and negative about 1 object or subject, I can still like junkfood but acknowledge it is junk. But on these forums people have to deal in absolutes constantly. Like when I like the color Red, i must absolutely hate green. which is ridiculous....
Originally posted by mainvein33

I am not really sure where to start with you but I will try  to explain. If you were willing to read my entire post (you admit that you didn't which by the way is truly childish) you would have realized I acutally didn't feel much of what you said was wrong. Your deleivery on the other hand simply was if you didnt want to get attacked. You do it here also tossing out personal attacks of your own. You call me juvenile repeatedly yet you cant read an entire response. Even when you drone on about what you dislike whether it bothers me or not I finish reading anybody deserves that much (and it keeps you from looking like an idiot when you respond).

You have 2000+ post and you expect me to believe that you dont know the nature of these forums? You posted with the intent to fight. You know you did. Its not juvenile its the way of this forum. If you post looking for a fight you will get one. You should simply have known better. I pointed out where you went wrong but you didnt want to hear it (Childish behavior on your part). I am not condoning personal attacks but if you walk around with a target sign what do you expect. Your telling me in 2000+ post here you really dont get it? Even with 200 post I know what it looks like when your trying to start something ( I might be doing it to you right now. Its true I am aware but you deserve it..)

The best part is that I didnt go off topic I read your arguement and simplified it into something discussable and something that could not provoke a personal attack I will repost it try to read this time unless you get too mad before you get this far.


"Simply put if you dont want to get attacked dont hit the "POST MESSAGE" when you post reads the way it does. BTW I for one felt you had some valid reasons for not playing in your post if summarized them without the extra wall of text  it could read:


I wont play this game because the leveling curve is to easy for me, I see no new content, and I have a general dislike of quest hub theme park type games.


My simple counter:


I agree except I feel the game is fun, polished, and over all I generally like theme park games."


No, the OP does not by definition have to follow the childish and ridiculous behaviour that makes up the current standard of these forums. What you are describing is debate, not discussion. These forums are made for discussion and not debate. Just because a lot of posters turn it into fighting boards and debates doesn't mean the OP can not differ from them. He used the board as intended, the posters attacking him don't.
Also his response to you was valid imo, when I first read I aswell felt the need to skip the rest, because of this unfair statement that made the OP responsible for the fight that other poster are willingly creating. I did however read your post entirely to see if maybe you were being sarcastic or denied your ridiculous statement later on, but you didn't. Therefore reading your entire post didn't make it any better at all.
You just say you thought his points in the OP were not all that wrong, SO WHAT? How would this be a comfort after you just told him he brought the attacks upon himself. It is like you agree with the debate culture here. "Hey no worries, I agree with you"  You do not have to agree to be friends or anything, its a bloody discussion. To agree or not is not of importance here, it is not a debate so there is no value to it. You can just voice your opinion and elaborate on it, there is no need to convince. anybody.
The current mindset that is standard in these forums is ridiculous and actually you just admitted it was. That means we should IGNORE that and point out that there is no need for it. The OP stated his opinion and clearly showed understanding to those with different opinions. PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS. No debate needed.
Originally posted by Fibsdk
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Fibsdk
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Cyphus

While I do respect the OP's opinion on not playing the game and hope he finds something I'm kind of doubting it.  Like others have said it's hard to re-capture that thrill that is your first mmo experience. 

lol AGAIN with this tactic... i talked about exactly this a few posts back when I said 'Why do people keep playing tactic? Why is everyone who dosent buy into Rift, according to the fans, 'bored with' or have a 'problem with' MMORPGs?"

If I don't like Rifts i must be sick of MMOs... it can't be this specific game... right?

I will just repost what I said then, if thats ok?

"I am obviously talking about one single game here in my OP, a game that i address on it's own specific merits and shortfalls, yet again and again this card is pulled on me (and others that don't buy into the Rift train), no matter how calm or reasonable we are."

What I don't respect is the excuses for not having fun in the game.

Why would you think I would need to make excuses to not have fun? Has it occured to you we might find different things fun?

  You see the same thing over and over every time a game goes into beta.  Mmos by their nature are best enjoyed with the company of others.  

well, You might want to tell that to Scot Hartsman who has openly said that overland content, except rifts, are no intended or practical for group play (paraphrase). 

Because every opinion you have and write in your post has a point of referrence. Itøs that refference you are judging rift on. I don't know your past gaming history to say one way or another but I also got the feeling of you having bunny hopped between one too many MMOs leading you to grow tired of mainstream


Your just lumping yourself in with the rest here, I have no idea why you would do that. Is it just to dismiss any point of view you don't like? You are saying that if I have tried a few games i am sick of all MMOs and therefore must hate Rift... Thats just absurd.

Please, show me in my posts here in this thread where I have shown 'I am tired of the mainstream'? Actually, don't, This has been derailed by this nonsense enough.

I even said a few posts back when I was asked that me and the GF are now duoing through GW... thats being tired of the mainstream? I have said I am looking forward to Arche Age which, imo, will most definitely hit the mainstream. Please...

This tactic to dismiss others based on silly assumptions on what I do or don't feel about MMOs at this time in general is weak arguing. My issues with Rift are my issues with Rift. What mental block makes that so hard to accept?

Please, let us get back to talking about the game, rather then your assumptions on my outlook towards MMOs in general at this time. Chat or debate to me based on the points I have made in the OP.

Keep the thread on topic.

Give me a break there is no discussion to be had with you based on the points you have made. Lets look at some of the words used to describe Rift in your post.

-It is, imo, a game that lacks ambition or reach, one that is happy to settle for the mundane Compared to what?? What's your point of referrence?. That's right you wont say, ending any meaningful discussion to be had about your assertions.

- It is small (world wise), narrow (vision wise), derivative, uninspired (design wise) - Meaningless words without any further explanation of used phrases. How is it narrow vision wise? How is it uninspired? how does it lack ambition?. Again compared to what?. Where are your expectations coming from?

I'll give you a hint, the reference is in the title of your current browser window.

Also to answer your questions: Compared to other MMO's in general. Funny enough, most Rift fans even AGREE with statements in the OP, but they see this as possitve, they find it enjoyable. We all enjoy different things.

What are you trying to accomplish here?

Originally posted by Teh_Axi
Originally posted by vesavius

Yes, it does.

Look the more you post the more obvious it becomes that you never intended to play Rift. You say you've been following it but its never been any secret what type of game its going to be. Yet your practically bursting to bang on about Archeage, an MMO thats essentially the polar opposite of one like Rift.

The fact is because of this extreme bias, your opinion is almost completely invalid, by definition. 

Ah that seems to be commonsense these days right? When you like something, it is impossible to like something that is the complete opposite. Like when I enjoy the colour red, I must absolutely hate green....right?
Rift was hyped and advertised to do something different, namely rifts which were to be dynamic and random, making it less linear. So it was unclear how the game would be for the OP. Themeparks are not necessarily the same, the level of linearity can differ within the sub-genre. What if the OP likes both Themeparks and Sandbox games, yet he doesn't like to play the exact same game over and over of either genre? You can not blame the OP for searching for something different here, as Rifts were advertised as offering a twist, thus making this game not the regular themepark on first sight. He explained he tried and wasn't thrilled about it, so what WHAT'S IT TO YOU?
The OP explains itself very carefully, you just choose to read in it whatever you want to easily dispose an opinion that is obviously not in line with yours.
Originally posted by Leucent
I honeslty don t care if someone likes a game or not, but I will give my opinion, on the subject. Why because I like to discuss:)


totally agree here. On these forums people seem to confuse discussion with debate. It is like people here have some agenda or something. We are just discussing games here and opinions differ.....

Rockgod you are completely off the ball here. I think you should reread vesavius posts a bit more carefully coz your responses to them are way off imo. You come off as someone who is annoyed by the fact that someone else has an opposing opinion and even though he has carefully explained why, you try to attack him and say his views are wrong without any valid argument to back it up.
For example you say he shouldn't complain about rift being a themepark and specifically a linear themepark. But how linear a game is differs a lot even within the themepark sub-genre. Therefore it was not known to him how linear this game was going to be, especially when there was so much emphasis on the rifts. They seemed random and dynamic, and therefore opposite to linear. I can definitely see how someone might have expected a game with more of twist due to the advertising of the rifts. You cant really blame him for having the wrong expectations in this regard.
Vevasius has explained his position very well so why dont you just agree to disagree here. How exactly do you think you are right and vesavius is wrong. Your arguments are most of the time not really applicable on the OP at all. There is no need to make a war here. People have opposing opinions all the time.
Off-topic even more than the rest of my post:  Fun>Innovation? I think I agree with this, however what is fun is 100% subjective. So that means something innovative can be more fun to some people then something that is not innovative and is fun to others, right? I just don't really understand this statement I guess. You apply something that is 100% subjective, 'fun', to a factual statement that combines this subjectivity with something more objective, 'innovation'. Seems rather pointless, as innovation could just as well equal fun in this regard, as it could be that someone is so bored with the same thing, that he could not have fun unless at least something fresh comes along.

I am quite sure that many people here are such devoted fans that they will the deny the utter disaster that the prequels are. To them I suggest the Plinkett reviews, which completely destroy both episode I and II in 90 minutes or more. Please be educated by these reviews. You can find them on

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