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All I can say is: LOL.

Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter
Originally posted by Stradden
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Take a look at all the ads on this site for F2P games.

Once again Doubter, you've got us. You've called us out on our conspiracy to gain ad revenue.

Yes, I know.

You know all of the inner workings of this site and how we operate. It's not that we understand the trends in the industry and are following them. It's not that we have no trouble attracting advertisers regardless of the kind of content we produce. It's not that we have a number of failsafes in place internally to keep what you're constantly accusing us of doing from happening in the first place, and it's not like we've explained this to you time and time again on these forums.

Nope, you're right. It's a simple minded conspiracy. I wish I was as smart as you.

It would help you, no doubt.

And I'll thank you in advance for my upcoming ban.

Well he should ban himself for breaking forum rules, going off topic, personal attacks, retalliation.

There are quite a few rules he broke in his paragraph of verbal abuse.

We've already seen before that those who work here are above the rules.

Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Stradden
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Take a look at all the ads on this site for F2P games.

Once again Doubter, you've got us. You've called us out on our conspiracy to gain ad revenue. You know all of the inner workings of this site and how we operate. It's not that we understand the trends in the industry and are following them. It's not that we have no trouble attracting advertisers regardless of the kind of content we produce. It's not that we have a number of failsafes in place internally to keep what you're constantly accusing us of doing from happening in the first place, and it's not like we've explained this to you time and time again on these forums.

Nope, you're right. It's a simple minded conspiracy. I wish I was as smart as you.

Really?  Personal attacks from a Mod?

Extremely condescending too...  

What ever happened to staying on topic?

I'm not about to go on vacation, BTW. If you don't see any of my posts for a while...well, you know what happened. It happened the last time Jon and I exchnged posts on this issue.

Originally posted by Stradden
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Take a look at all the ads on this site for F2P games.

Once again Doubter, you've got us. You've called us out on our conspiracy to gain ad revenue.

Yes, I know.

You know all of the inner workings of this site and how we operate. It's not that we understand the trends in the industry and are following them. It's not that we have no trouble attracting advertisers regardless of the kind of content we produce. It's not that we have a number of failsafes in place internally to keep what you're constantly accusing us of doing from happening in the first place, and it's not like we've explained this to you time and time again on these forums.

Nope, you're right. It's a simple minded conspiracy. I wish I was as smart as you.

It would help you, no doubt.

And I'll thank you in advance for my upcoming ban.

Originally posted by Alders


But how is BOP not sellable when you can just have the buyer in your alliance to roll on gear that they paid for?

I don't understand this. Can you re-phrase it?

Originally posted by DarkRexx

It's just that the phrase 'real gamer' sounds stupid to me without some kind of qualifier, like 'real crappy gamer' or 'real good gamer' since technically ANYONE who plays games on a daily basis is a gamer.



Buying your rewards isn't 'playing the game'.

Originally posted by Alders

WoW is the exception to the rule to a certain degree. Guilds do sell those drops also do they not?

They might vendor them - BoPs can't be sold to other players.

Besides that, I asked how much it cost to kill Arthas, since killing him is the top accomplishment in the game currently. You did say we could 'pay to win', right?

In games where currency/gold is actually an important part of the economy, you see it happen more.

Oh, in other unnamed games it's a factor. I see.

I wasn't aware that gold was worthless in WoW. Only 5,000 g for fast flying, and 20,000 for the war mammoth mount. A mere pittance.

Originally posted by Garvon3

Compared to other MMORPGs on the market at the time, oooh yes it was. It was extremely easy. And whats more, with instances and no death penalty,

There was a death penalty - repair costs.

there were absolutely no consequences for screwing up. Though thats a different debate as to whether thats difficulty or frustration, my point was simply, there was nothing to make people care about losing even if they did manage to screw up the insanely easy instanced scaled content. 

That's not the game I played. Repair costs were a big deal. Sometimes we had to stop because we ran out of money.

Originally posted by gaidin6

As for P2P games with item stores, I really lose it!  I feel like they're double dipping and breaking the implied contract I signed up for, namely, if I pay a sub, I'll get all the content I care to find or work for.  With the added store items, this is no  longer the case.  I'm one of the 6 people who quit WoW over it!  :-P

Oh, I'm sure there are more than six of us.

I saw very few of my old friends online after that pet store opened.

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 Yeah, cuz everyone in a fantasy setting has 3 foot high shoulder pads and huge glowing weapons...

In WoW, they do.

Originally posted by maskedweasel

It somewhat reminds me of how PSU had their action oriented combat... depending on what weapon you held you'd have different combat animations and combos.  This system sounds somewhat more versatile... I'm very interested to play it.  I wonder what kind of content we're looking forward to... for a game so close to release there's still a lot of things I know very little about when it comes to this title.

I wonder what kind of moves I have when I'm swinging a Buick.


I am beginning to think a Superhero MMO can't work.

Originally posted by gandales
Originally posted by Khors

Pretty.  But the same question I have for anything marketing itself in the genre; is this a mmorpg?  The video plays and sounds like a re-skinned Champions Online. 


Looks like a single-player action-arcade game, as the video eludes to, and appears to be heavily instanced with limted community massively-multiplayer game-play.  Similar turn-offs for Champions Online, but not having played DC, I'm not sure.

Remember that this is a hero mmo. In sword and magic, you expect an important part of the population to be in the players, and gathered close. I think for many people would be a turn off having hundred heroes roaming the streets, feeling less unique. I am not saying too much instanced but definitely not like wow.


I actually agree wtih this. In S&S MMOs, we are the regular citizens - mainly because we don't go around in brightly coloured underwear.

Heroes aren't special, if everyone in the city is a superhero.

Originally posted by Sovrath

So just because something has the "f2p" moniker doesn't automatically make it evil. If it is abused then "think" and move on. It's just another method of payment.

It is a completely different economic system that motivates the devs to sell more items, rather than make the game better.

Originally posted by Alders

I'll repeat what i said in the LOTRO thread again.

If you think the players at the top of the PTP games aren't spending as much or more with their wallets to stay at the top, as players in FTP's, then you're deluding yourselves.


How much does it cost to kill Arthas?

Originally posted by Lidane

Except that your car IS coin-operated. You don't just buy a car on the lot and have it run like new forever. Car owners easily get nickel and dimed every month in order to keep their car going-- gas, insurance, maintenance, etc.

That's not coin-operated, that's a subscription fee.

Coin-operated is "insert 50c for a turn signal", "inesrt $2 to apply the brakes", etc.

Originally posted by Tarka

So, like a "Left4Dead" type game, just on a bigger scale?

I haven't played L4D, but I suppose, but in a persistant world, with a common goal of mutual survival and improving one's colony. We had a few threads about such durign winter, and some very good ideas were brought up.

Personally, and you'll have to forgive the pun, I don't see much lifespan in that.

LOL. I love puns.

  Just having a shotgun and ammo and some armour seems a little restrictive in regards to character progression.  Besides, I'll admit, I love playing casters ;)


Real world settings have all sorts of skills to acquire and develop.

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

It was a good article Justin, but I think it might have been wasted on this crowd. Too many people here seem to follow the mindset of the car-brand-buyer. You know the ones: "I drive a Ford and I won't buy a Chevy's not a Ford, and my great-unlce's stepson's roomate had a Chevy and it sucked".

I think it's more that we don't want a coin-operated car.

Originally posted by catlana

I am sure the trailors for SWToR will be awesome. We should see some game play as well. I personally hate crafting so that has no interest for me what so ever. Flight combat either needs to be done right or not at all. If flight combat is not ready, then it should not be part of what is shipped. 

If it isn't 'ready' after 6 years and $150 million, then they never had any intention of including it.

Originally posted by KyngBills
Originally posted by safety

What we won't get are credible answers to the questions:

- Is this truly an MMORPG or a single player online game with networking features?

How many times does BioWare have to state the Game is going to have all the traditional elements of an MMO for Folks like you to believe it?...It will be every bit as much of an MMORPG than any other one out there...They've already said it a million times over...The only difference will be if you choose to Solo most of the time you will be able to...That's all...There will be 6 Years of development on this Game when it comes out...Auctions Houses...Yes...PvP...Yes...Crafting...Yes...It's mostly already been answered...

Talk is cheap, and from an MMO dev - almost worthless.

The question is - why do you believe them?


- Is what Bioware means by 'open world' the same as what ordinary mmo players mean by 'open world'?

Quote From Daniel Erickson: "One of the real things we wanted to show at GDC this year is that our worlds are huge, actually. They are giant, you can explore. They are massive. You can just wander off one direction and go forever."

Quote from James Olhen: "Our public areas are one contiguous world", "Not just our cities - 90% of the game, actually, will be areas where you can run into other players" - PC Gamer UK April 2010

- Are crafting and selling really integral to this game? Or bolted-on afterthoughts?

Quote: We’ve spent quite a bit of time discussing how to ensure that crafters – true dedicated crafters – can make a name for themselves and be important in their community. - Dev Blog Damion Schubert

Quote: We are going to have crafting, because that's a big part of MMOs. We're going to implement crafting in a way that 'feels' right for Star Wars. - Massively TOR 2008

- What about housing?

Some notes from the lecture “MMO Retention - Learning from the First 25 Years,” by Scott Hartsman of Trion, and Gordon Walton of BioWare.

Gordon Walton of Bioware discussed aspirational experiences, and pointed out that they didn’t necessarily have to be day to day, they could be things that people aim for over the long term. In Ultima Online, for example, the data showed that people who had houses stayed longer than people who didn’t, so making changes to offer housing to more players became important.




Those quotes are very vague.

Originally posted by DarkRexx

It's hilarious when people start throwing around phrases like 'real gamer' as if it means anything. Playing a game, any game, makes someone a real gamer just like breathing air makes them a real air-breather.

If there's some kind of approved guidelines that isn't someone's personal opinion I've yet to see it.

If you can't feel the difference between buying something, and winning or earning something, then it can't be explained to you.

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