Originally posted by Mtibbs1989

Originally posted by MarXon
No, it's all the parents responsibility. I don't care if children play the pervy game too, they are not my responsibility. And I don't plan to go around hitting on people in games so the age of the people around me doesn't bother me one bit. Children have easier access to hardcore pornography on the internet than the softcore stuff in this game, so whether the parents let their children play the game, or simply doesn't know about it, I don't care.

 Well we can't quite yell at these kids parents for being on these types of games now can we?

You miss the point. You have NO SAYSO in what parents allow their kids to do. It is NONE of your business in the first place. I've seen plenty of kids that are horrible and i'd like nothing more than to have a sit down with their parents. I don't. It isn't my place to tell them that i don't think they are parenting right. I mind my own business.

Originally posted by anglynndav

Originally posted by Toxia

Why not worry about your kids, and let me worry about mine. That's the issue these days, people nosing around where it's none of their business. If their parents are not bothered by it, why would you even care?

My little brother of 12 plays call of duty, and has probably seen more porn than i have. He makes wonderful grades in school, has plenty of friends, doesn't do drugs, and has a vocabularly that shocks me everyday with the depth he seems to have a grasp on it.

As such, he is allowed to do what he pleases. He's tried both ciggarrettes and alcohol in his life, was quite discusted by them and now know's he doesn't want to do that ever when he gets to the age where society deems he should be able to. He doesn't hide anything from our parents or myself, and is not afraid to ask about something he doesn't know anything about.

He has two guns, a rifle and a handgun, has been certified and knows the dangers of them

 

I was raised the same, and am a successful father who doesn't cheat, have my own clear cut ideas on what i want out of life, have been married almost 7 years this year, straight out of highschool with a woman i love, who treats me right and respects the man I am.

 

Stop sheltering your fucking kids, idiots. They are going to be exposed to all these things that offend you so very much at one point or another.  Keep telling them no, it'll only make them want it more.

Then you are one of the very very few fathers that pays attention (your son is lucky) - sorry but thats America 2013 - but beyond that... A) adult space is kind of nice and B) if I showed a kid in the park what they are showing online, I would be arrested. Just saying- the only reason that this game has not been shut down in US is b/c most the officials would not even know what mmo stood for.

 

As you should be. The kids in the park aren't yours to take it upon yourself to show things to. That's their PARENTS right and decision to make. 

As for officials, well, that's another thread, and one that isn't allowed here, so i wont go into it. Suffice to say i think they are utter morons who don't know which way is up, and just 'go with the flow' of what everyone screams the loudest, so they don't lose their positions.

Thanks for the compliment. I hope i'm half the father my father is.

Why not worry about your kids, and let me worry about mine. That's the issue these days, people nosing around where it's none of their business. If their parents are not bothered by it, why would you even care?

My little brother of 12 plays call of duty, and has probably seen more porn than i have. He makes wonderful grades in school, has plenty of friends, doesn't do drugs, and has a vocabularly that shocks me everyday with the depth he seems to have a grasp on it.

As such, he is allowed to do what he pleases. He's tried both ciggarrettes and alcohol in his life, was quite discusted by them and now know's he doesn't want to do that ever when he gets to the age where society deems he should be able to. He doesn't hide anything from our parents or myself, and is not afraid to ask about something he doesn't know anything about.

He has two guns, a rifle and a handgun, has been certified and knows the dangers of them

I was raised the same, and am a successful father who doesn't cheat, have my own clear cut ideas on what i want out of life, have been married almost 7 years this year, straight out of highschool with a woman i love, who treats me right and respects the man I am.

Stop sheltering your fucking kids, idiots. They are going to be exposed to all these things that offend you so very much at one point or another.  Keep telling them no, it'll only make them want it more.

Of course he says F2P is going to implode. Why would he say" Hey i wanna make a Sub game, but yeah, F2P is a viable option"? That'd be shooting himself in the foot.

From what we have heard from slightly less biased sources, F2P has been very very successful, and has even revived some games that weren't doing so well. For those games, certainly, the company is making more money with microtransactions than they did with the Sub model.

Personally, i'm waiting for Arenanets quarterly to see how well the B2P with cosmetic cash shop model is faring.

Originally posted by jpnole
I have been a big sci fi fan since the days of watching 1960s Star Trek re runs in the 80s. I was very impressed with the show last night. I was not nearly as impressed by the open beta though. So is the full release any different from the OB or should I just skip it and/or wait for a 50% off sale somewhere? Not a big fan of on-rails, themepark hamster wheels.

Open beta's are rarely different from the released product. So yeah, skip it if you didn't like it.

Originally posted by Volgore

Originally posted by TsaboHavoc
.........Leaked video................. Operation Damage control Status = on................ 

This.

Love the last sentence in italics:

Garrett Fuller is the Industry Relations Manager at MMORPG.com.

Originally posted by Bensor
The leaked version is from an early alpha build. Confirmed by an inner source.

Creation date and time on the video has already been posted from the video files. It was an hour or so before upload. They've removed the vid's from most sites,  so me going to youtube to see when it was uploaded isn't possible, but i promise you the video hadn't been up since 'early alpha'. We know that much. We DONT know what level of PC he was using, or whether or not the textures in game were low res, etc. You should try using that ammo to defend with. Inner sources just make you look rather silly.

Originally posted by redcapp

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by Mkilbride

Remember this is TRI-Realms. So there are 3 teams. There can't be alliances, either, as you can't understand the other sites text. It comes out as gibberish. So if one side starts winning hardcore on another, the third realm can kick it's ass, or if they decide to pound on the realm the other is, they'll create a three-way battle. It creates a self-balancing system.

 

Also, to those worried about people hopping to a Realm that wins more, no worries. MJ has said that, whatever Realm you select with your first character, ALL CHARACTERS will have to be of that Realm, from then on, on that server. So you can't go hop to the winning team. You have to pick the side you want and stick with it.

I might actually buy into this, except i play GW2. It has the same stipulations that your game has, and alliances happen all day everyday. We live in a world full of fansites, VOIP's, hell even cell phones. There will be imbalance. Don't get your hopes up that high to not think there will be. You'll crash n burn, my friend.

The OP is certainly a tad optimistic, but GW2's controls were pretty damn poorly implemented when I last played (around launch)

 

Nothing you can do about Vent, etc, but at least forcing you to reroll in order to switch realms is a pretty big detriment, depending on how much you have invested in your toons.   GW2 was way too easy to just switch servers on a whim. 

...Controls? I dont understand what that has to do with the system implemented to stop alliances teaming up...but..okay!

To update you and maybe bring more insight into how little making you reroll will affect anything, GW2 now charges money(Real $) to switch servers, and our server still has spies seated on other servers. If they will PAY to spy on someone, there is little doubt in my mind that people will reroll(or, just use those convienient extra accounts they got for donating ;)  )) to do so as well. Just trying to bring the OP's expectations down into reality, as i was pretty pumped for GW2's WvW idea and was let down

Originally posted by Mkilbride

Remember this is TRI-Realms. So there are 3 teams. There can't be alliances, either, as you can't understand the other sites text. It comes out as gibberish. So if one side starts winning hardcore on another, the third realm can kick it's ass, or if they decide to pound on the realm the other is, they'll create a three-way battle. It creates a self-balancing system.

 

Also, to those worried about people hopping to a Realm that wins more, no worries. MJ has said that, whatever Realm you select with your first character, ALL CHARACTERS will have to be of that Realm, from then on, on that server. So you can't go hop to the winning team. You have to pick the side you want and stick with it.

I might actually buy into this, except i play GW2. It has the same stipulations that your game has, and alliances happen all day everyday. We live in a world full of fansites, VOIP's, hell even cell phones. There will be imbalance. Don't get your hopes up that high to not think there will be. You'll crash n burn, my friend.

I wont play it based on it having a sub. Here's why.

1. Subs, from the moment i buy the game, are a constant negative. When i get bored, i remind myself i am PAYING every month to be bored. I quit, never to look back. It's a powerful gating mechanism.

2. When compared with B2P with cosmetic cash shop, i buy what i want IF I LIKE IT(cosmetics, expansions, etc), whereas with Sub model i am paying for them to develop content , in HOPES that i MIGHT LIKE it. With B2P, the power is in my hands to put my money where i deem fit. This is such a plus that it makes Subs even more negative in my book.

For businesses, at least where i am concerned, B2P/F2P is their best bet.

Example:

I played FFXI for a few months, hit a bored spot. Thought to myself" I'm paying them X amount per month to be bored" Dropped the game, never to return.

GW2: Played the game for a few months, got bored, dropped it. New content came out, Not gated by sub to return, so i drop in to check it out. Find out i like the game again. Buy a character slot and some new cosmetics that came out, and im happily chugging along still.

One game never got any more money from me, the other got money from me.

IMO- SUBS ARE SHIT!

Originally posted by Binafus

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by Arcona

Lifetime sub is at $250 (warrior forever) :)

They have said the monthly fee will not be the traditional sub at 15, there might be a option to pay per hour like in China :)

apologies then, got my numbers mixed. they didn't announce yet the sub price, so i just used to norm 15/m.

Still, its more than the flat 60 i paid for GW2 that again, has both lots of pve and DAOC style WvW. 

I'm about done with GW2 but this is the problem for some people like me, I wanted to RvR GW2 wanted you to do instance PvP if you were serious about PVP.

If you wanted to RvR you were considered casual and you have to do Fracts and dailies to get the best gear to RvR with, the culling problems have been down right bad in GW2 untill a week ago when they let the end user pick if you wanted to see what was killing you in RvR no clue why they did not give this option day one they lost a ton of people over it.

This is another example of a game that said they were all going to be about guild wars, that turned out to be lets try to add a bit of everything and require people to do a bit of everything in order to compette.

I'm not knocking GW2 for some it is a great game for people that like to do all the things the game makes you do, but there are some people that do not want to be forced to do other things besides kill people and want a game company that it's main focus is RvR to the point they have no PVE to get gear for RvR, no Instances.  

CU will not be for everyone it will be for a minority of people, being that CU understands this and embraces it makes me very excited about the game.  

I'm glad you are enjoying GW2 and I still play some but I do not think CU is gonna be for you.

GW2 certainly has many issues, and im sure CU will launch with its own fair share of bugs or things that need tweaked as well. I didn't want to derail the thread into something about GW2, just wanted to use it to explain my thinking. From what i understand, PVE content is harder/more dev intensive to make when compared to a static system in a RvR setting. In my head, it's like "Hey, this game gives me lots of quality PVE and story, along with a RvR setting,and is buy to play. This game promises to be a quality RvR experience, but is both box cost and sub fee. Hmm. Kinda feel like i'd be getting scammed or be overpaying for the just RvR game since this game here did alllll this, albeit not perfectly, for a flat 60 bucks."

Originally posted by Arcona

Lifetime sub is at $250 (warrior forever) :)

They have said the monthly fee will not be the traditional sub at 15, there might be a option to pay per hour like in China :)

apologies then, got my numbers mixed. they didn't announce yet the sub price, so i just used to norm 15/m.

Still, its more than the flat 60 i paid for GW2 that again, has both lots of pve and DAOC style WvW. 

Originally posted by Binafus

Originally posted by Toxia
I'm just not cool with the sub payment model. Make it B2P, F2P and i'll pledge something. I do not feel that paying a monthly sub for a RvR game with admittedly little PVE is worth my money. 

You can buy a life time sub now I know serveral people that have done that, again if you want PVE you should not even consider funding this game, it is not for you.

 

I laughed my friend. Laughed really hard!

If i wont pledge 25 to get the game and pay 15/m why would i pledge 400 something to get a lifetime sub? 400/15= almost 27 months! No...no.

And i'm fine with no PVE. I liked DAOC. But when i have paid 60 for GW2, which has both a very healthly amount of PVE with DAOC style WvW, without a continuing sub, trying to sell me on a game that is half that FOR a sub...just doesnt sit right.

Just my two cents.