Originally posted by Swanea

I still can't understand putting money down on such an untested game/product/company.

 

This seems less wise than gambling, and that is just throwing your money away.

 

A well known company that has released games before, at least stands a very good chance of releasing a function product to spend money on for a beta.  Games such as this...I dunno.

Swanea, you’re as much an adolescent half-wit that supports an established development team with supposed talent which does nothing but release a ¼ baked game like WAR with so much redundancy and content-less game-play that it’ll make you go mad.

You supported that, by a well known company that has developed games before, a game with comments from you like “Blows any game out right now, out of the water. Its so awesome.” Ohh…such a blonde girl-ish thing to say about a product which took a huge nose-dive after 2-months, with that dev-team scrambling to justify their experiment and some leaving on the heels of empty servers.

Many will gladly give an indie development team that pushes development with the support and direction of ‘players’, like SV and Mortal Online, rather than listen to a sheep like you that can’t justify support for a failed endeavor at the hands of your supposed ‘experienced’ development team.
 

Originally posted by Genleo

Starvault does not have the manpower to produce a full fantasy world MMO within the time period slated.  They most likely will not have this game out by the end of the year, and if it is you can expect another darkfail or AOC.

 

Why would anyone trust a company with no reputation?? why give them 75 dollars or more...  They can't even get their page updated

 

this company has never made a game before...so chances are this will be their first mistake.  Maybe in the future they will produce better games, but for now you are just paying so they can get money and make a real game.

Genleo, your a troll. You started your stupidity crusade a year ago when you thought AoC would be a success. AoC is a prime example of a game developed by supposed knowledgeable folks, folks with manpower, but tanked, and tanked well; sever mergers, developers bailing, and Funcom begging for people to return.

Maybe in the future Funcom will produce a better game, and you'll find that chromosome your missing, but SV hasn't done anything to warrant concern that is not unlike other established developers yet.
 

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by TheHavok

96 hours of AoC this week?  Holy fuck man, please tell me atleast half that time is being afk.

 

I was pretty suprised myself. I've been loving AOC like a hooker loves crack.

Surprised??  That coming from a guy that's played another one of the most borish and mundane mmo's available, aside from the Asian grinders, WoW for 1100 hours?

You are either on crack, missing a chromosome or a combination of the 2.

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by luckypotato

Official Website: http://en.allods.gpotato.eu/ad/

An article on the up-comming game: Here

Also, i highly suggest watching the into video on the official website.

 

 

You're going to have to try a lot harder than that to generate interest in your crappy "WoW Knock off" that isn't officially listed in MMORPG.com even though it's due to be released this year

Firstly, I dont support this game; who cares since it lacks as much cartoony depth as the slowly dwindling WoW.  But lastly, if your pee-brain thinks that mmorpg.com, a site that takes cash from a whole host of crappy mmo's and crappy Asian grinders that are exactly the same as the rest, is a reputable mmo site, think again.  Not to mention the hosting of First-Person-Shooters like Huxley, Gunbound Revolution,etc.  This game or any game doesn't need endorsement by mmorpg.com.

Every developer pays a fee for service and exposure on this site; their not listed on this site because of some generosity or inkling that such a game has worth.  

Nice generous score of 6. So this game falls in-between a 2 like poop from Eurogamer and 6, as in mediocre, from mmorpg.com.

That about sums up the breadth, depth, and content for this experiment in shadyness and scam called Darkfall.

This review is pretty spot on with many things. Having played this game, only to be mislead about character slots and NA transfers, is enough to maintain this game at 2/10.  The reviewer addresses some window-dressing that was fixed, but it's all to easy to substitute what was hot-fixed with duct-tape with a few niceties that the ametuer developers have worked on; must be Tacos birthday or something . We all know DF has prolific problems, will continue to have prolific problems, and isnt worth the effort.

The obvious remark is “who cares”. The mmorpg market is saturated with crap that it was obvious for even the casual observer that SGW was lame. No one should believe the corporate development team after the debacle that was AoC, PotBS, Tabula Rasa, WAR and most recently, the Darkfall scam of delivering a shell of a grossly incomplete, contentless product, of which such a rudimentary design could only be mastered by the most shifty of scam artists.

SGW was heading down the same road and got caught with burning through their cash and fumbling whatever investment they had so horribly, they failed earlier.

The leadership of any endeavor begins and ends with the board for any business; even this one. That’s how business is; always was and always is.
 

Originally posted by NeverLand7

I'm personally still looking forward to Earth Eternal and I think It's refreshing that some of the content the game is offering is different then the usual stuff.

The game's race selection and groves ( player made content ) are two things I'm looking forward too.

Not intending to be offensive, but this game offers absolutely nothing new.  There's nothing refreshing about it, and selecting a 'skin' or race is meaningless and so are the groves....there's nothing lasting or game-play immersive about the groves.  This game is nothing different than any other f2p cartoon mmo.

Originally posted by solareus 

I can say that from how they handled this so far is the most exploitive scam to date with Fileplant being a key reason why we are seeing more andmore of these pay  to play BETAS, and even if a game was to be release, I will say with 80 percent certainty we we will be seeing Dark and Light all over again cause people will never learn.

You obviously havent been around the mmorpg genre long.  Darkfall was the and continues to be the biggest scam and sherade of an mmo to ever be released.

Thank goodness you wont be playing, though keep trolling the forum from your welfare life;no biggie.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by alakram

Originally posted by altairzq

In my country, VAT is 16%. Why they are charging me 25%? Where the difference goes? To SV.

They only want to please the americans and milk europeans wallets.

Not to talk about opening the store at 2-3am in europe, when they could have delayed it until next day and give europeans a fair chance, or at least split it in two parts.

Here in spain VAT is 16% too. Why am I charged 25% VAT.?

Why we european have a common currency, our beloved euro, but we have diferent VATs? This is all a mess, really.

 

Yeah I dont get that part either. Here in Sweden the VAT is 25% but if a company sells abroad then why do they need to pay swedish taxes?

Furthermore the standard price for a boxed PC game in sweden is 4-500 swedish kronor which is roughly 35-40 € (including shipping, just check www.webhallen.com) so their excuse doesnt fly. And the boxed version is NOT a limited edition, the Full Loot bag is.

This is a money grab, nothing else.

You need to go back to see Sister Mary Catherine in your Elementary school.   Until then, please dont play it.  Everything many of the games you see do is a 'money grab' I bet; your term.  Being a capitalist is not a money grab, offering one game box and early entertainment without skimming subscribers for extra future content is not a money-grab, being up-front and communicative about pricing is not a money grab, paying a premium price for a non-theme park, more sand-box type new product is not a money-grab.

However, being a douche-bag is just that; look in the mirror, being a troll.  Wait for the Direct Download, but until then, the game cost what it did in Euros and everyone paid an appropriate currency conversion.   That's how free markets and capitalism work. Sorry, but the days of fixed currencies to gold or silver are over (and even then there were currency rates).

Also, they would have had to use mark-to-market accounting, which for the love of what is good I hope you know about (after Enron, Worldcom, Sarbanes Oxley, etc. etc.).

A: Currency rates are forever changing at nearly every second.
B: They would have to implement a system that somehow captured real time data from the currency markets (which is pricey, I might add) and somehow make that work with customers. It would never work because people would get charged different prices at nearly every second.
C: They would have to use mark-to-market accounting, which, at least in the US, is now heavily regulated and is a pain in the ass to maintain anyways, because they have to update all of their revenues nearly every second to keep up with the changing currency rates.

This is basic elementary stuff, which kids like you dont seem to grasp; so stay in or return to elementary school and continue to learn. And in the mean-time Free Realms is that way ---->

Originally posted by Electro057

That is what they always say about games that have high hype, and then fail horribly! I preordered Warhammer and it failed on me......but nonetheless I just preordered Aion >.< I'm hoping it will suck some of the anime/manga types out of WoW......like me ^.^ ... But I honestly think that just by reading about it, the majority of NA racist immature people (( you know the ones that constantly make jew jokes and make my life as a native american hell)) will probably not like the Asian Culture feel Aion has :( I will though :P

Comon...I cant resist.

Electro057 - Apprentice Member Real Name: Matthew Courtney

Member since March 5, 2009 Last Visit: July 14, 2009
Male from Guelph, ON, Canada
 

So your admittedly a Jewish Indian from Canada that hates America.  lol   Maybe Aion isn't for such an intellectual gamer such as yourself.  *checking FBI's no-fly list*

Originally posted by Vorret
I don't get it... why doesn't big review site like IGN or Gamespot don't review that game?

Any anonymous blogger, like nogamer, can write a review. This game, Darkfall, is the poster-child for shoddy development, game-play, customer-service, community and anything else that matters to gain a notable following.

With seemingly better titles on the horizon, such as Aion, Champions, and Mortal, to name a few, save your cash, because this game is better rated as a ‘2’ out of ‘10’; 2 is for poop.

This isn’t surprising. Their complete fail on the weather system is a continued testament, since their beta, to less than mediocre effort, at best.

Aventurines’ complete spin about this so-called expansion is nothing more than hot-fixes to elements that have been broke or poorly implemented in this game. And those that continue to subscribe to this experiment are just the marks that the scammers at Aventurine were hoping to get their claws into for continued funding of an ever-failing endeavor.

lol

Comon.  We've played this before.  Its called Unreal Tournament and Halo.  Why this "mmorpg" site would let alone host this fps, and give it any sort of credibility, or CrimeCraft for that matter, is laughable.

Originally posted by The_Pathos

What will Aion do that vill make it successful in the Western market? In your opinion, of course. As far as I can tell, there is nothing new going on in this game, despite many here hailing it as the next big thing ( kind've like Warhammer, AoC, DnL, Darkfall... the list goes on ).

I'd like to see some justification for it being a big seller in the Western world.

Hey sonny, there's this really cool new site that will help you alot. I think the name of it is something along the lines of www.google.com. All the other cool kids use it from what I hear.

Original poster, you really need to try other free-to-play (f2p) mmorpgs and trial versions to get a better sense of the value of a mmorpg, sinse WoW has lost it’s luster with many. Whether your into PvP or PvE or a combination, there are several f2p and trial option mmo’s that will give you some entertainment value without spending money, and you can quickly improve your impressions on mmorpg’s by doing so.

WoW has not evolved, but remained stagnant as a very rudimentary PvE game and a very boring and value-less PvP for those that like it as a smartly implemented option. Doing the same raids again and again was just as less appealing as doing the same scenarios again and again for me with the game WAR.

4 years ago, I had a lot of interest in WoW, but after 6-months to a year, after repeatedly doing the same events/raids/smashing the same keyboard numbers again and again, and without progressive breadth and depth of game-play on the back-bone of mediocre graphics, and again, in addition to the very static style of game-play, it became a dis-interest of mine.
 

Originally posted by Swanea 

Someone stated that you need to farm for an item drop to level past each 4s, and that they are a remote chance, and you need multiple of it.  Someone stated it would take 51 weeks? or something stupid to be able to get them all.

OMG!  Did someone actually say that the game is challenging? That I can't achieve an end-game win in 3 weeks?!?!?! That I have to actually progress through greater depth of game-play to accomplish another achievement?! 

I will not stand for this.  To heck with the smartly and complex system of ddo gaming. Im sticking with WoW, only to press the same button repeatedly and without governing, or my sequence of solo win buttons that make my general practioner, whose treating me for carpal tunnel, damn proud of me.

Yes, absolutley.  This is a classic mmorpg, in the role-playing sence.  Character customization is graet, hero/class diversity is great, graphics are good, gui and system flexibility is graet, story is great with the vocal narratives as your questing, and quests are very appealing. . .not to mention grouping is really fun and immersive.

This game really should at least be tried by anyone that is remotely interested in mmo's; and its free right now.

Originally posted by bverji 

I think this is removed from the standard "death system" of most MMOs and very fitting of a superhero game. You get knockd out and wait 10-30 seconds to wake up.

Excellent.  In addition to Free Realms, this is exactly what will attract those that play "shadow tag" instead of real "tag", that frown upon events or games where there is a winner and loser, where your handed a win without concept of challenge or slightly harsh consequences.

What would make it better is if there were no levels, no advanced skills or character progression, just stick-figures whereby no one feels as though someone else might have a better appearance than them.

Honestly, it just doesnt matter. And to think that what the devs are delivering now is considered an expansion is a very silly impression; its nothing more than hot fixes for things that were either broke or mal-designed.

This is not an expansion and never was.  The proper terminology is hot-fix.  The reason why there is substantially less activity on the main DF forums and responses to "polls" is not that people are playing, but that those so voistrous about being mislead by Aventurine are banned and/or aren'tplaying this experiment any longer. 

Dont kid yourself; full loot or not, we know that not only is the EU server in severe decline, but the NA customers see that there are better gaming options than that of a small company trying to scam their marks.