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Originally posted by RathanX26
What i heard, from here and other forums, was that the test was around 6 hours long, the idea of doing it before the beta weekend is that during the beta weekend they will have more people on then ever before and they need to make sure it will be ok. Also, lets be honest with ourselves, Anet is taking a gamble with the pre-purchases. If we who pre-purchased (myself included) are unable to log into the beta weekend due to server trouble or whatever, there will be hell to pay. I have given them my money, they will give me my promised weekends. I am sure all of you feel the same. We have not been disappointed by Anet yet, but that doesn't mean we won't react accordingly if we are let down. Eitherway, I could care less about a 6 hour stress, it was not a beta and not something I signed up for. And thanks for Anet for making sure they are testing things right before letting me get in there. Cheers.

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Judging by yesterday's performance, I don't think you should be worried :)

Don't really know of any great ones out right now. You could hop on Planetside using their trial, but I hear the population is dwindling. There's also WWII Online, but again, the population is very low.

Your best bet for a MMOFPS probably lies with Planetside 2, whenever that gets released. For now, however, I highly recommend battlefield 3 on the PC. While not an MMO, you do have some progression by unlocking a bunch of things, and the 64 player combat makes for a really great experience.

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Originally posted by Benthon

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Originally posted by Ecoces
I haven't played minecraft but i have thought about it. my thing is i am more of an explorer and adventurer than builder. for example i use to spend hours in fallout just picking a direction and start walking exploring every nook and crany trying to find "cool stuff". and when i say cool stuff i don't mean "uber loot"
would minecraft be fun for a player like me?

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Extremely, without a doubt.

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You may want to check out some realistic texture packs - check out the videos or screenshots of this one http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/138988-%E2%99%A5%E2%80%94%E2%98%85%E2%98%85256x128x64x173-realistic-hd-texture-pack-%E2%98%85%E2%98%85%E2%80%94%E2%99%A5/

While you will still have the blockyness, the textures are much more detailed and makes the world look 100x better.

And to the other poster asking if they can explore and whatnot, you can do that for SURE. Not only will you find hidden houses, towns, people's chests, etc. but also with the added 1.8 patch, there are big mineshafts for you to explore and also Strongholds, which serve as dungeons (which I believe will have bosses in them, come a later patch).

*edited for clicky link

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Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
Massive is the number of players that CAN be online, in other words the number of players the game can support, not the number that are currently online.

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But wouldn't that be pointless if the amount of players that ARE online is nowhere near the amount of players that CAN be online? For example Vanguard, or DFO, or any other MMO with a low subscription base. You can find minecraft servers that have more active people playing at the same time than those games, yet those games are still considered "MMO" while these minecraft servers are not. I think these servers should be considered MMO's not only for that reason, but for all the other reasons explained throughout the thread as well.

You certainly find more MMO elements in these servers than you do in mainstream games. Another example would be Global Agenda - considered an MMO, but really it is just a lobby waiting area for the actual meat of the game, the deathmatch style play with limited amounts of people. In minecraft, you don't see that - instead, you see ONE persistant world (per server) with events that can reach many (70+) people. In my opinion, that is MUCH more massive than other "MMOs" strive to be.

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Originally posted by waynejr2

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Originally posted by dougmysticey
Minecraft is awesome. It is a total time sink that you can lose yourself in just mining an building stuff.

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The real world offers far more interesting options for creative outlet.

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Then why are you on this site waynejr2? The game is a great way to sit back an relax after a long day at university for me, as does any game people play. It's just that in this game, you are rewarded for being creative and are able to show off your creations.

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Originally posted by Bigdavo
I don't get it, what stops people just digging the shit out of peoples cities? 10 guys with diamond picks could level one of those cities in no time.
Are the blocks indestructible or something?

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Yeah, it's bannable if you "grief" (break other players stuff) and you rarely see it happen. In official townships with rings, if you are not apart of the town, you cannot even break or place blocks as long as you are within their rings, so most of the time it is not even a problem!

And as to the other person who said cheaters are everywhere, it is rare to see them. If there are, they get banned right away, so it is really never a problem. Also, the server is trying to create their very own client as to control exactly what is in people's .jar files, which would make cheating practically non-existant!

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Originally posted by Raventree
Very cool guys.  I have been hearing about Minecraft for a while and have been wondering what it is and what the draw of the game could be.  It sounds like it is worth checking out.

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Yeah for sure!

Actually as I type this, my allie's city is currently being raided by about 8 of our enemies. They killed all our allies in the town, and are basically locking all of us out of the town by guarding all the entrances while they look around for all the good stuff to steal (luckily they won't take much :P ). I guess that's what we get for having all these enemies, but this type of conflict makes the game stay interesting.

They should probably expect a retaliation soon...

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Originally posted by Lawlmonster
Minecraft is great, I can't disagree. I love just about everything it includes, and I respect Notch for making the project a labor of love. However, Minecraft is not an MMO and never could be in its current state, unless the OP is aware of some server modding tool that allows admins to change their player limit (which appears to be the case). There are definitely MMO aspects to Minecraft, but two key features are missing (though may exist separately on their own): persistant worlds, and the ability to play with hundreds or thousands of players on one server. If you were to say Minecraft was the best MOG you ever played (Multiplayer Online Game) as opposed to MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online), I would agree with you. Little about multiplayer in Minecraft could be perceived as massive, aside from the generation of the world itself.
 
In regards to the OP, I'm surprised to see a server that changes everything I know about the product. Until now, I had thought multiplayer limits were practically unchangeable, but I'm glad to see Minecraft moving in a massive direction. It is true, this server in particular that the OP is speaking of is very MMO, but Minecraft in general was not built with that experience in mind (aka, most servers are four to eight players).

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To each his own then. I totally understand that the "massively" term is used loosely in this regard, but is more definitely has a persistant world. In fact, it is more persistant than any other game I have played before.

And yeah, this server pretty much changed the product completely. You can see that with many mods for the game (including shooter mods, pokemon mods, etc) but this sticks to the traditional class-based system you see in other games. It works really well for this server, and there is a pretty large coding team lead by the creator of the server, so there are constant changes and patches to the game. If you check out their website, you can see the constant patch notes and how much is really being changed.

I went ahead and put the server info at the top of my OP to anyone else interested. Don't forget to also check out minestatus.net, you can find many other ways to play the game there.

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Originally posted by Requiem6
For me, minecraft is the best game ever.
Constanly getting update. Have alot of option. You are free to look how you want by making or getting skin for your character. And you can build whatever you want. PvP, omg sniping other people with the bow is really fun =D. Fight vs mobs, the nether is scary as hell.
The multiplayer really mean something in this game. I made my own server and I play mainly with my brother and some friend. We build island, and anything we want. It really use our imagination. We've build Castle, different type of town, boat, Church, any building. We went into making also funnier stuff like huge sized bike, labyrinth of sponge, or the KFC barrel. Right now we are building an entire island and are filling all the underwater to dig tunnel and stuff underground the island. It's going to be so cool at the end.
The piston are a really good add too. And with texture pack, the graphic aren't all that bad.
The only down that minecraft have is once you play with friend and stuff, playing solo isn't that much fun anymore.

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Yeah playing alone is definitely a drag, but with others it's a blast. It's really awesome seeing how other people's structures turn out, you are free to be as creative as you want. I've told my friends that don't play minecraft this before: Building is like legos on crack.

Question really quick, is it allowed to post the server name in this thread? I've sent the server website to all those who've asked, but for anyone else that wants to join, this may be an easier way. I just don't know if it's allowed on this board or not, I really don't want to get banned for advertising the server I play on :/

Minestatus.net is a great website to see which servers are currently at the top, but keep in mind there's thousands of more servers to choose from. Only from the top 10 alone you can see some really active servers (the server I play on is one of those!) but they are all really great to play and will give you much variety when deciding exactly what you want to get out of the game.

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Originally posted by Raxeon
can you messege me the server address?

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It's been sent, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

To the others, I'm actually surprised on the positive feedback about minecraft being an MMO! I know many people like thousands of people playing at the same time, but really, I think this is just as massive as any other game because you are interacting with many people in a seamless world at the same time.

Anyone else care to share thoughts about this?

EDIT #2 - Due to popular demand, I'll release the name of the server in case anyone is willing to try! The server is named Herocraft, you can reach the website at http://herocraftonline.com. I recommend you join a township (or anything above a township) as it can really get you going in the game. The forums list all official townships, so you can find one that suits your play style. I also recommend you check out the wiki from the website, you can learn more about the server and classes from there!

Hey everyone,

I know you've probably heard of the indie sensation Minecraft, but I bet many of you haven't realized the full potential of this game in terms of online play. If you're willing to read in a little, I'd like to tell you of the adventures my friends and I had in this server, so you can realize the sheer amount of freedom and fun we are having.

You see, I play in a server with about 8 other real-life friends, and have formed alliances with MANY other players in this server, and have made even more enemies. While still "small" compared to other MMO's, it does have thousands of active users (peak is around 120 playing at the same time) - which I still consider an MMO based off of everything that is possible in the game.

You olden-day UO and EQ fans would REALLY enjoy this server, it is considered "hardcore" with PvP anywhere except for at the spawn city, stealing is allowed, full loot PvP (lose everything on you if you die), extremely sandbox, class based (including 4 tank classes, 4 rogue classes, 4 healer classes, 4 crafter classes, and 4 caster classes, each with their own unique spells) with leveling from either killing, mining, or crafting.

On this server, my friends and I have created an official town - I know you can do this in games like Darkfall, but in this case, we build every single structure and decide exactly where we wanted the town to be on the map. Because of constant raiding to our town, we built a solid wall straight up to our town ring (placed by admins) so our enemies cannot enter. We designed a series of traps including a wall of sticky pistons, so if enemies try to break in, we flip a switch and the sticky pistons crush them quickly.
-pictures of our town Ignotis, you can see our bank and townhall (with our awesome wall) and our dragon out front (which serves as our exit as well)

*as a sidenote, we recently raided another town, and their trap at the entrance consisted of probably 100 dispensers that shot arrows out when they flipped a switch, and the arrows flew through lava walls which created hundred of flaming arrows shooting out at us per second. While none of us died, we had to turn back because we could not get in their town. Literally, your imagination is the limit - if you can think of a trap, or structure, or ANYTHING to do, believe me, it is possible.

Our allies recently built a town right next to ours, which has been upgraded to a city (requires 15 signatures and a bunch of coin) and we have high hopes of becoming a kingdom (so we will own much of the map, and can control much of the market). Currently, we are laying off on raiding while we help build their city up and make it look pretty, so they can recruit many more people for the required signatures for a kingdom.
- allies townhall and bank in the back

Now me being a healer (druid to be exact) can be stressful at times since there are not too many healers and they are really necessary when adventuring out in the wild. Mobs are difficult to kill, and players have extremes amount of health so skill really comes into play in combat. Needless to say, it is very group based and if you are caught out in the wild alone, you are probably a dead man. In the near future, group dungeon will be added which will be an awesome addition to an already feature - packed game.

If you haven't figured out by now, the server is completely player-driven. Currently there are around 25 towns, 5 or 6 cities, and a few capitals. You will find player shops outside of most towns, and many (including a major shop) close to the spawn city. These shops are completely made by players, selling things such as common and rare ores (like diamond), armor, weapons, reagents, etc. Prices are competitive around the world, and many shops sell out of materials so there is always demand for some sort of material. Traveling is dangerous when trying to get to these shops, so it's always good to travel in at least a group of two.

The world itself is pretty big - currently the boundaries were increased for the new land in the 1.8 update, and it takes probably 40 minutes or more to travel from one end to the other. On top of that, you must take into consideration player mines underground, which are countless and filled with chests full of precious materials for you to steal. In fact, stealing can be EXTREMELY beneficial - stealing alone practically covered our entire town cost. And believe me, there are countless chests for you to be stealing, with player made houses popping up in the wilderness everyday, and many players do not take extra precautions to hide their chests properly.

Another awesome aspect of the server are GM events. These events happen randomly, usually at the spawn city, but 3 nights ago it happened in our friend's newly founded city. These events usually consist of the GMs spawning many different mobs, including giants, etc and the players attempting to take them down. While the graphics aren't the greatest in the world, the amount of fun you can get from this game is staggering. Seeing 50+ people at an event working together to take down hordes of enemies is awesome, and trying to kill the GMs as the final boss battles is too much fun. Once the GMs are dead, loot is dropped any people scramble all over the place to pick up the rare things given away, such as apples.
- end of an event

Well, this turned out to be a little longer than I thought. I don't want this to seem like an advertisement for the server (which is why I didn't even mention the server's name on here) but rather an eye-opening thread for all you sick of current MMO's out on the market. Minecraft is only $20 at the moment, and there are no monthly fees on these servers you can play on. There are many different servers for you to choose from, including a very popular RP server, where the players are in control of pretty much anything and everything that happens. Thousands of people play on these servers a day, so I don't see how that can't be considered an MMO.

One more note. I've been playing constantly (almost everyday) since November last year. I still get excited and look forward to logging in everyday, even if I can only play for 30 minutes. I have never had a game last me this long, and I feel like I am still just getting started. The game is constantly evolving, and since this is completely player-driven, there are always new and exciting things to experience.

As much as I wanted this thread to be an eye-opener, I also wanted to ask for your experiences with Minecraft. Have any of you tried our these servers for yourself? If so, what are you experiences with it? Would you consider it an MMO? I know for me, I play with many people and am connected to more people than WoW, which makes it infinitely more fun and more of an MMO than WoW could ever be (for me, at least). Please, share your experiences, because I want to hear them and maybe discuss a little more about the potential of these individual minecraft servers.

*Edit - I realized I barely scratched the surface on these features, so if you have questions, feel free to ask. Go ahead and request more screenshots as well, I know mine aren't the best, but I can try to go out and take screens of your requests!

Yeah, everyone is complaining about healing in this game, regardless of class. My main is a priest, and they heal just fine (if not great), but it's much harder than it was in WoTLK. You have to use your brain when you heal this time around, which is a nice change. Disc priests used to be great in PvP until Cata, and now they really do have issues, but upcoming class changes should fix them to a nice state.

Anyway, pick the class you like to play. By the time you're level 85, things should be fairly balanced out in the game. Priests are my favorite class in the game, I encourage you to try one - their healing is very fun since you have options for every situation the game spits at you. Plus, if you like healing, they're the only class in the game to have two talent trees dedicated to healing, and each one plays very differently.

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Originally posted by Lonehearth
I have been using beats from i-doser for a while now and can say that they do truly work for me.
There are different "doses" for just about everything and they do truly feel different from eachother.
But remember that some people are immune to binaural beats and they just simply wont work for them.

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That's really interesting..yeah I was reading into how the different frequencies can make you reach different types of effects you want, like energy or sleep. I looked on youtube for some and listened to the energy one for around 5 minutes (with headphones) and my left eyelid could not stop twitching! It was rather odd, but I think I'll buy the sleep ones from that site and see how they are (since they are 320 bit rate) and post my experiences here.

I asked this question on a different forum, but it was full of immature children so I thought I would have better luck here. Has anyone every tried binaural beats before? I have sleeping problems (not insomnia), and would like to try these, but I wanted to hear from some other people's experiences before I bite the bullet and buy a song. The site I was looking at is http://www.rhythmheal.com - so, any thoughts or experiences with these beats?

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Originally posted by TribeofOne
well its nice that its release was announced. Is there an expansion features list available any where? or is it supposed to be a surprise ?

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We have been getting little sneak peaks of the features in the expansion via spotlight articles on their forums. Here's the unofficial expansion notes that someone put together with most of the features on the expansion :

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=218517

In short, it balances magic by adding global cooldowns on spells and gives melee + archery love with special skills and abilities. There is a complete monster AI revamp as well and they are adding more house plots (800 in all) with the start of localized banking. At your house you can have a vendor to sell your goods that random people can come and buy, and they cannot be killed. And they are adding wildlife so fill up the world a little more, which will drop mats for crafting if killed. Click the link for more detailed notes.

On top of all that, they claimed to make thousands of fixes on the game. Sounds pretty impressive; I hope they can pull it off.

 sfdsdfas

To me, none of that really matters. I play the game because it is casual friendly and it is a blast to play with friends. Sure, getting epics is easy but some of the heroics are still pretty damn hard and arena takes a huge amount of coordination and skill in order to be effective. And, after years and years of playing, WoW is the only game that still has a massive amount of content left for me to complete.

Sorry, but what exactly is the point of this thread?

Originally posted by neo750a

I wanna make sure, Is it 2pm that you can buy the game on their website? Eastern Standard Time? or is it at a different time? I live on east coast.

No, it's GMT since they are based in Greece.

Originally posted by neo750a

Well, after some digging around I've come to the conclusion of playing Darkfall Online.  I know it has a rough start atm but I'm a pretty tolerant person on graphics and animations.  This game reminds me of the game play of Asheron's Call which I think most people haven't played (Which is a shame!).  Was alot of fun for me besides the original EQ(Was playing on test server and they did a item wipe the day after i got my human necro's int above 200+)...

Here I come Darkfall, I'm gonna roleplay then kill someone so bad!

 

Now gotta wait for the open window to actually buy the game...

good choice :) it's a very good game! there are a lot of haters though, be prepared to get flamed.